Episodes

Nov. 4, 2026

565: Faith, Courage, and Standing for What Is Right. With Jim Caviezel

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Actor Jim Caviezel joins Jocko and Echo to discuss his Hollywood career, faith, personal sacrifice, the physical and spiritual challenges of The Passion of the Christ, and his latest film, Ghost Soldier. 00:00 – Introduction: Jim Caviezel 01:27 – Basketball, Childhood, and Early Discipline 05:21 – From Basketball to Hollywood 11:14 – Finding Faith and Purpose 16:24 – The Thin Red Line and Mental Toughness 27:05 – The Passion of the Christ: Faith and S...
Nov. 2, 2026

Jocko Underground: If You're a High Performer, You Might Still Be Holding Yourself Back.

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< 00:00 – Dealing With a High-Performing Employee's Ego 11:41 – When Ego Gets You Fired 15:54 – Can You Become a Police Officer With a Physical Disability? 24:49 – Building Trust When You're Only the Leader for One Shift 30:52 – Echo's Advice for Breaking Into Filmmaking and Video Production 39:57 – Preparing for BUD/S and Navy SEAL Training Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content
Oct. 28, 2026

564: Overcoming Fear, Making Movies, and the Way of the Warrior Kid. With McG.

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Director, producer, and filmmaker McG joins Jocko Willink and Echo Charles to share his extraordinary journey from the Southern California punk rock scene to directing some of Hollywood's biggest films. McG discusses working with Sugar Ray, Korn, and other legendary bands, breaking into Hollywood with Charlie's Angels, and the crippling anxiety that nearly destroyed his career when he couldn't board a plane to direct Superman. He explains how exposure ther...
Oct. 26, 2026

Jocko Underground: Turn an Inferior Mindset Into an Iron Mindset

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< 00:22 – Turn an Inferior Mindset into an iron mindset 18:03 – Military mission-planning principles to the emotional and financial challenges of other missions in everyday life. 24:58 – How do I cope with the death of my son, support my wife and surviving child, and find a way forward through grief? 30:37 – How do I detach from a difficult marriage while remaining fully committed to my responsibilities as a father? 41:27 – How do I distinguish between fu...
Oct. 21, 2026

563: The 3 Traits Every Great Leader Must Have According to Gen. Matthew Ridgway

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Examining General Matthew Ridgway's timeless leadership principles, exploring the importance of character, courage, competence, and the moral strength to challenge bad decisions. From the battlefields of World War II and Korea to the distractions of modern life, they discuss what it takes to lead effectively, stay prepared, and earn the trust of others. 00:00:00 – General Matthew Ridgway: A Legendary Military Leader 00:05:33 – Is Leadership an Art or a Sc...
Oct. 19, 2026

Jocko Underground: Issues With Training Jiu Jitsu with Women Partners.

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< 00:29 — Training Jiu-Jitsu With Women: My wife is uncomfortable with me rolling with women? 08:55 — Being a Warrior With a Disability? 16:06 — Regretting Wasted Years: How do I stop regretting lost time and know I'm doing enough? 23:57 — Dealing With a Disruptive Teenager. 36:47 — Military Service in the Age of Drones. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content
Oct. 14, 2026

562: The Deadly Cost of Bad Leadership. Lessons From Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. With Bing West

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Marine combat veteran, author, and former senior defense official Bing West joins Jocko to discuss the brutal realities of war, the strategic failures of military and political leadership, and the lessons America continues to overlook. Drawing on firsthand experiences from Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, West reveals how flawed decisions at the highest levels can have devastating consequences on the battlefield. 00:00:00 – The Brutal Reality of Combat in V...
Oct. 12, 2026

Jocko Underground: When You're Ready For a New Chapter | Battling Fatigue In Life

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< 00:00:00 – When You're Ready For a New Chapter? 00:06:33 – Struggling with chronic fatigue syndrome? 00:13:32 – Are leaders born with natural leadership abilities, or can leadership be learned? 00:24:00 – How do I choose between multiple job offers, and what advice do you have for starting my career? 00:43:28 – How do I recognize that I'm not good enough and need to improve without constantly beating myself up? Support this podcast at — https://redcirc...
Oct. 7, 2026

561: The Art Of Command. Action, Initiative, and Judgement.

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Breaking down General Melvin Zais’s 1977 speech Leadership and the Art of Command, exploring action, initiative, delegation, discipline, judgment, and the realities of leading people. After a lifetime of combat and command, Zais ultimately reduces effective leadership to one essential principle: you must care about your people. 00:00 – General Melvin Zais: A Lifetime of Leadership 02:16 – Leadership Defies Definition 08:24 – Stop Talking. Take Action. ...
Oct. 5, 2026

Jocko Underground: My View on Non-Combatant Military Members | How to Get Your Life Back

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< 00:01:06 — Do combat veterans view conscientious objectors/noncombatant medics as honorable? 00:05:34 — My 3-year-old may have autism and kids are starting to make fun of him. How do I help him—and myself—handle it? 00:24:30 — I got sober and used harsh self-criticism to stay disciplined. How do I shift toward self-compassion without losing discipline? 00:33:03 — After several devastating life events, I’ve fallen into drinking, weed, and avoiding my goal...
Sept. 30, 2026

560: Leadership Is A Skill. Train It. With Jamie Cochran.

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Jamie Cochran breaks down real-world leadership lessons from Echelon Front clients and organizations. They discuss overcoming resistance, merging cultures, developing leaders, taking ownership without doing everything yourself, and why leadership is a skill that must be continuously practiced. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content
Sept. 28, 2026

Jocko Underground: The Reality When Your Boss Sucks and You Don't Respect Him At All.

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< 00:40 — How do I respect a leader I don’t respect or trust? 15:21 — How do I solve problems aggressively without being out of control? 27:22 — Should I keep pursuing more responsibility if it’s making work stressful? 38:55 — How do I stay calm when my kids are melting down? 54:38 — How important is competing in Jiu-Jitsu, and is it worth the injury risk? Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content
Sept. 23, 2026

559: Turning Unimaginable Loss Into Purpose. The Legacy of Marc Lee. With Debbie Mama Lee

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Twenty years after Navy SEAL Marc Lee was killed in Ramadi, his mother Debbie “Mama Lee” Lee joins Jocko and Echo to reflect on grief, faith, brotherhood, and the legacy Marc left behind. They discuss the work of America’s Mighty Warriors, helping veterans heal from the invisible wounds of war, supporting Gold Star families, and turning unimaginable loss into a mission to help others. 00:00 – 20 Years Since Mark Lee’s Death Mama Lee reflects on losing Mark...
Sept. 16, 2026

558: What We Can Learn From John Spencer Almost Dying 20 Times.

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Urban warfare expert and retired Army officer John Spencer returns to share stories from 20 Times I Almost Died, from Ranger School and Iraq to Ukraine, Gaza, and some incredibly close calls. Along the way, John and Jocko break down leadership, intuition, modern warfare, resilience, and the importance of developing a personal code to live by. 00:00 – John Spencer: 20 Times I Almost Died 02:53 – Kashmir: India, Pakistan & Modern Warfare 05:10 – Lebanon, He...
Sept. 14, 2026

Jocko Underground: This is How to be a Dependable Warrior.

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< How to be a dependable warrior. At what point does being ultra competitive become a weakness? How to mentally get back on track in life. How to kick the remaining vices in your life. How to guide a 3 year old in life. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content
Sept. 9, 2026

557: Stop Waiting for the Perfect Answer. Go.

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Every decision has consequences—and the small decisions made repeatedly can eventually shape your entire life. Jocko and Echo break down how to make better decisions under uncertainty, when to trust experience and intuition, how to avoid paralysis through analysis, and why effective leaders take action, learn, and adapt. 00:00 — Decisions: The Choices That Shape Your Life 03:33 — How the Marine Corps Teaches Decision-Making 11:50 — Take the Initiative: Kee...
Sept. 7, 2026

Jocko Underground: The Guy Who Called Out Rener Gracie's Purple Belts and Got Embarrassed.

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< The Guy Who Called Out Rener Gracie's Purple Belts and Got Embarrassed. Maxed out for time, but training for a personal challenge. How to solve a problem riddled worker on your team. When a workout partner doesn't have as much dedication. Got beat up by my wife's guy friend. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content
Sept. 2, 2026

556: The World Belongs to the Brazen and The Brave.

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Continuing examination of René Quinton's Maxims on War, exploring courage, danger, ambition, leadership, obedience, and the randomness of combat. The discussion ultimately comes back to a powerful principle for war and everyday life: learn to distinguish real danger from the danger created by your imagination. 00:00 — Maxims on War: Extreme Views and Human Nature 05:34 — War, Death, and the Randomness of Combat 16:57 — Courage, Promotion, and the Danger o...
Aug. 26, 2026

555: The Nature Of Man Is War

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< René Quinton’s extreme ideas about war, human nature, struggle, and heroism. They examine why humans are drawn to conflict and why a life of comfort may be something worth fighting against. 0:00 – René Quinton & Maxims on War 4:21 – Does Human Nature Love War? 13:22 – Competition vs. Collaboration 16:10 – The Male Psyche: Friend or Foe 24:05 – Why Men Seek Risk, Combat & Danger 31:00 – Tribalism, Fighting & Understanding Jiu-Jitsu 37:04 – Service, Sac...
Aug. 24, 2026

Jocko Underground: The Safety Protocol for Your Kids When They're On Their Own.

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< What is the safety protocol for your kids when they are on their own. Training Jiu Jitsu with limitations. The difference between a leadership failure and a hiring failure. How to eliminate crippling doubt while achieving your goals in life. What to do if you suspect your leadership is working against you . Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content
Aug. 19, 2026

554: Maximum Efficiency On The Front Lines of Battle and Life

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Breaking down raw, firsthand combat lessons from U.S. Army soldiers fighting their way through World War II—lessons written in the field by men who had just experienced the consequences of good decisions, bad decisions, aggression, hesitation, discipline, and leadership. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content
Aug. 17, 2026

Jocko Underground: Jonah Hill's Tough Talk About His Jiu Jitsu Skill.

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Jonah Hill's Tough Talk About His Jiu Jitsu Skill. The best way to get forgiveness after terrible behavior in the past. Thoughts on the worries of climate change and the worlds problems. How to save your marriage if it's on thin ice. Sacrificing sleep for more time during the day. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content
Aug. 12, 2026

553: Becoming Brothers Through Battle, Death, and Honor in Ramadi. With Miguel "Pitbull" Santana.

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Book: Unheard Voices The Fight For Ramadi: A Soldier’s Memoir From Combat Outpost Falcon In 2006, Miguel “Pitbull” Santana and his soldiers entered Ramadi, Iraq—a city many believed was already lost. What followed was months of relentless combat, sacrifice, loss, and brotherhood. Miguel joins Jocko to tell the story from the ground: the firefights, the men who saved each other's lives, the leaders who went first, and the bonds that remain unbroken twenty y...
Aug. 10, 2026

Jocko Underground: Why Do People Refuse to Learn or Talk About The Future Of The World Around Us?

>Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< People don't want to learn about what's coming in the future. The differences in our definition of "Leadership". How to get your kids to take on interests that stick. What to do when you've outgrown the drinking crowd. What to do if you have trust issues with women. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content