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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the Jockel Underground podcast number 227 with Equatorals in May.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are sitting here and we've got some questions from you all and we're going to provide some answers to the best of our ability and perhaps at a minimum we will provide some courses of action that can guide you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: through whatever challenges you might be facing in life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's get to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, first question, talk, Racco.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My teenage daughter and her boyfriend are attending a concert at a state fair soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This will be their first major outing without parents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll be with a group of friends, which gives me some reassurance, although I also know wisdom can disappear pretty quickly in a group of teenagers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm approaching this as a preparedness and risk management exercise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On the basics of hydration, charge phones, and backup battery, I'm insisting on the following standards, which yes, I've already exhibited with our family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But could be overlooked, unnoticed or otherwise taken for granted, as a norm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in our family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so here they are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Never go anywhere alone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number two is never leave each each other isolated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number three, maintain and escape route.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number four, cover and move, which is teamwork.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number five, nowhere help is before you need it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for your perspective, am I missing anything?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are there blind spots in how I'm thinking about this
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, well, those some good rules.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, which has been training due to, uh, if not, she should be started now, you know, because I've just provided to whole, uh, another level of personal security for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and by the way, if you're one of these people, let's go all the way to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you going to do with your Gitu?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you can do a lot with your Gitu and as I tell You know when I train females in Gitu, especially from a self defense perspective and you know a hundred pound a woman is You know wondering if she can if she trains Gitu enough she'll be able to Defend herself from a 225 pound man and the answer is usually no
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[SPEAKER_00]: But guess what, you can make enough resistance that it becomes problematic for the 200 pound man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at a minimum, you can make things more difficult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And perhaps those couple seconds, 10 seconds, seven seconds, 14 seconds, that it takes for a guy to get control, is the seven seconds, 10 seconds, 14 seconds, that a police officer or that someone sees it or that someone hears it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why we're turning in GJ2.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A couple of things here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A rally point, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're at a fair scenario.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's a rally point?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we get split up, some goes on where we're going to meet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably have one inside the fair area and one outside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe it's the car, maybe it's a certain area by the car, something like that, where, hey, if we lose each other, this is where we're going to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd probably have one inside the arena, the second area is like the car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if for whatever reason, one that's not even the car, further away further away than the car, maybe it's the, you know, the McDonald's up the street, or whatever, some other rally point should also have an extraction point for you and for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The boyfriend, whatever, he gets drunk and starts acting like an idiot, she just calls you and she gets a hot extract from a certain point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't even have to say anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She passes a pro-word.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, she promises a pro-word.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She says, Dad, cowboy, cowboy, cowboy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go stand by.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And whatever you already have it timed out, takes you 12 minutes to get to the fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She already knows to go to the entrance gate on the right hand side, on the south side of the entrance gate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's going to be, that's where you're going to be waiting for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Boom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So have an extraction, a pre-designated extraction point, primary and secondary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, just the call me if you need me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If anything happens, give me a call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two o'clock in the morning, give me a call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's 10 o'clock at night, give me a call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe some calm windows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It might be getting a little bit in the micro management territory, but since it's the first time, you know, she sends you a text every hour.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a little all good, a little comfort zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Make sure everything's cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do we have a loss of communication's plan?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you don't hear from her, where's she going?
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[SPEAKER_00]: She loses her phone and where's she gonna go?
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[SPEAKER_00]: She loses her phone, the dude freaks out, he throws her phone off the Ferris wheel at the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't want to talk to him, she leaves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No comms, you have no comms with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you gonna do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Midnight, if I don't hear from you, at Midnight, I'm gonna be right here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's probably the most important stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't do anything dumb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's small.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a small statement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, sweetie, go have a good time tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't do anything dumb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because she's going to get an opportunity to do some dumb stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what happens in your teenage years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: lined up for you, and you want to give her that last little bit of, you don't hate don't do anything dumb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, it's also infused with, I trust you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why you're going, I trust you, hey, I know you're, hey, you know what, I trust you, I know you're not going to do anything dumb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That might be a good way to phrase it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you're not going to do anything dumb because I trust you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Boom, that might be it, just that simple little statement, because you have hopefully infused her with good values at this point where when dumb stuff gets presented to her, she knows the deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, you know, and hopefully you've had those talks with her about things that she can do right now that are dumb and will hurt her reputation and hurt your family's reputation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, sometimes people care about their own reputation, sometimes they keep, they care about their families.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, like sometimes you don't want to let your teammate down, sometimes some people don't want to let, they'd rather not let the team down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some people would rather not let themselves down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So cover both those bases.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, just remember the way you act, it impacts your reputation and it impacts our family's reputation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that way if she's not really doesn't care about the family, cool, it's your reputation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If she doesn't really care about her reputation because you want to have fun, cool, that's the family's reputation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully one of those lands properly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, this is, you know, trustless and respected influence and care, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've given it a trust, you're given it a trust to go there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've allowed it to influence you, you, you're showing her that you respect her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully she has a good time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's what I would those are my little additions to the, to the, uh, plan here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Solid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with this guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know these these are strong ones and I'm kind of looking to you for some cool additional ones So thank you for that Yeah, check my daughter is 13 So she's entering this zone, you know she goes I feel like ours is like a
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[SPEAKER_01]: which I've found to be successful at the reason I'm sharing it so so far so that when she you know she's 13 now so her radius of independence from the house or from wherever I am that's actually the house if we go somewhere else the radius is very way way smaller so it as she gets older and proves to be responsible the radius just gets you know bigger and bigger as a year's gone
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like kind of it, you know, you know, in the meantime, I'm looking at him seeing who she's hanging out with, how her behavior acts like literally minute to minute because you know, sometimes friends can come over and I'm not going to say this has not happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So friends, come over and then, oh, I see a little bit different behavior for better worse, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes better, sometimes I'm like, she's kind of like, you know, a little bit braver or a little bit more, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Loosing up the Maybe coloring outside of the lines a little bit, you know, whether usually starts in a fun way because I'm like that's a which is good Because she could be worse, but you know paying attention to these things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, when she hangs with Linda She's really polite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's really, you know, they're trying to live up to a standard together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, kind of a thing because Linda squared away But when Jenny comes over, you know, she's a little bit this which is cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't judge hey, we all have different flavors of friends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get it
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I see how her behavior.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now that radius with Jenny is going to be a little bit tighter, a little bit more monitor, do you see me saying so it's kind of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was probably shockingly liberal with my kids and their what they were doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I gave them all kind of leeway into do stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, with my girl's also a little bit a little bit more But barely I don't I don't the guy said no to my son To do stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I take that back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was one time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I told him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you're not doing that Yeah, you remember what was there was there was during the COVID George Floyd riots and protests and stuff and He's like, hey, I'm gonna go down to the protests tonight
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he didn't have any like political he wasn't like I'm gonna go down there You know and support the police or go support the the BLM He was just going down there because shit was going down You know what I mean because it's chaos and the funny thing is when I was like oh no, you're not and he was like he like didn't understand what I was saying
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, no, no, no, no, it's gonna be, you know, it's like technically, I'm going with this kid and this kid and like, we're just gonna go down and I was like, no, no, no, you're not, he's like, no, no, no, no, it's like, it's tonight, it's tonight, it's like, I was like, no, and I was like, hey, this is the situation where someone can easily get killed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can get wrapped up and doing something stupid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can have something stupid done to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can get killed by a protest or you can get killed by a cop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know you're just going down there to freaking experience chaos, because that's what a young kid wants to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's a mayhem going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this is what he must have been like around 14 or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but that's the only time or maybe it's 15.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like no you're not actually not doing that because there's so much chaos in those riots and every when a riot like riots are not good so that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the jacco underground podcast so if you want to continue to listen
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the Jockel Underground podcast number 227 with Equatorals in May.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are sitting here and we've got some questions from you all and we're going to provide some answers to the best of our ability and perhaps at a minimum we will provide some courses of action that can guide you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: through whatever challenges you might be facing in life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's get to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, first question, talk, Racco.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My teenage daughter and her boyfriend are attending a concert at a state fair soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This will be their first major outing without parents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll be with a group of friends, which gives me some reassurance, although I also know wisdom can disappear pretty quickly in a group of teenagers.
00:39.900 --> 00:45.142
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm approaching this as a preparedness and risk management exercise.
00:45.942 --> 00:54.305
[SPEAKER_01]: On the basics of hydration, charge phones, and backup battery, I'm insisting on the following standards, which yes, I've already exhibited with our family.
00:56.226 --> 01:01.168
[SPEAKER_01]: But could be overlooked, unnoticed or otherwise taken for granted, as a norm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in our family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so here they are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Never go anywhere alone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number two is never leave each each other isolated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number three, maintain and escape route.
01:14.305 --> 01:17.926
[SPEAKER_01]: Number four, cover and move, which is teamwork.
01:18.407 --> 01:21.468
[SPEAKER_01]: Number five, nowhere help is before you need it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for your perspective, am I missing anything?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are there blind spots in how I'm thinking about this
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, well, those some good rules.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, which has been training due to, uh, if not, she should be started now, you know, because I've just provided to whole, uh, another level of personal security for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and by the way, if you're one of these people, let's go all the way to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you going to do with your Gitu?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you can do a lot with your Gitu and as I tell You know when I train females in Gitu, especially from a self defense perspective and you know a hundred pound a woman is You know wondering if she can if she trains Gitu enough she'll be able to Defend herself from a 225 pound man and the answer is usually no
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[SPEAKER_00]: But guess what, you can make enough resistance that it becomes problematic for the 200 pound man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at a minimum, you can make things more difficult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And perhaps those couple seconds, 10 seconds, seven seconds, 14 seconds, that it takes for a guy to get control, is the seven seconds, 10 seconds, 14 seconds, that a police officer or that someone sees it or that someone hears it.
02:39.714 --> 02:40.915
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why we're turning in GJ2.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A couple of things here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A rally point, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're at a fair scenario.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's a rally point?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we get split up, some goes on where we're going to meet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably have one inside the fair area and one outside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe it's the car, maybe it's a certain area by the car, something like that, where, hey, if we lose each other, this is where we're going to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd probably have one inside the arena, the second area is like the car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if for whatever reason, one that's not even the car, further away further away than the car, maybe it's the, you know, the McDonald's up the street, or whatever, some other rally point should also have an extraction point for you and for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The boyfriend, whatever, he gets drunk and starts acting like an idiot, she just calls you and she gets a hot extract from a certain point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't even have to say anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She passes a pro-word.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, she promises a pro-word.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She says, Dad, cowboy, cowboy, cowboy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go stand by.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And whatever you already have it timed out, takes you 12 minutes to get to the fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She already knows to go to the entrance gate on the right hand side, on the south side of the entrance gate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's going to be, that's where you're going to be waiting for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Boom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So have an extraction, a pre-designated extraction point, primary and secondary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, just the call me if you need me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If anything happens, give me a call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two o'clock in the morning, give me a call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's 10 o'clock at night, give me a call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe some calm windows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It might be getting a little bit in the micro management territory, but since it's the first time, you know, she sends you a text every hour.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a little all good, a little comfort zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Make sure everything's cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do we have a loss of communication's plan?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you don't hear from her, where's she going?
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[SPEAKER_00]: She loses her phone and where's she gonna go?
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[SPEAKER_00]: She loses her phone, the dude freaks out, he throws her phone off the Ferris wheel at the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't want to talk to him, she leaves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No comms, you have no comms with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you gonna do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Midnight, if I don't hear from you, at Midnight, I'm gonna be right here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's probably the most important stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't do anything dumb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's small.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a small statement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, sweetie, go have a good time tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't do anything dumb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because she's going to get an opportunity to do some dumb stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what happens in your teenage years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: lined up for you, and you want to give her that last little bit of, you don't hate don't do anything dumb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, it's also infused with, I trust you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why you're going, I trust you, hey, I know you're, hey, you know what, I trust you, I know you're not going to do anything dumb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That might be a good way to phrase it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you're not going to do anything dumb because I trust you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Boom, that might be it, just that simple little statement, because you have hopefully infused her with good values at this point where when dumb stuff gets presented to her, she knows the deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, you know, and hopefully you've had those talks with her about things that she can do right now that are dumb and will hurt her reputation and hurt your family's reputation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, sometimes people care about their own reputation, sometimes they keep, they care about their families.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, like sometimes you don't want to let your teammate down, sometimes some people don't want to let, they'd rather not let the team down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some people would rather not let themselves down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So cover both those bases.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, just remember the way you act, it impacts your reputation and it impacts our family's reputation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that way if she's not really doesn't care about the family, cool, it's your reputation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If she doesn't really care about her reputation because you want to have fun, cool, that's the family's reputation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully one of those lands properly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, this is, you know, trustless and respected influence and care, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've given it a trust, you're given it a trust to go there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've allowed it to influence you, you, you're showing her that you respect her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully she has a good time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's what I would those are my little additions to the, to the, uh, plan here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Solid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with this guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know these these are strong ones and I'm kind of looking to you for some cool additional ones So thank you for that Yeah, check my daughter is 13 So she's entering this zone, you know she goes I feel like ours is like a
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[SPEAKER_01]: which I've found to be successful at the reason I'm sharing it so so far so that when she you know she's 13 now so her radius of independence from the house or from wherever I am that's actually the house if we go somewhere else the radius is very way way smaller so it as she gets older and proves to be responsible the radius just gets you know bigger and bigger as a year's gone
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like kind of it, you know, you know, in the meantime, I'm looking at him seeing who she's hanging out with, how her behavior acts like literally minute to minute because you know, sometimes friends can come over and I'm not going to say this has not happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So friends, come over and then, oh, I see a little bit different behavior for better worse, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes better, sometimes I'm like, she's kind of like, you know, a little bit braver or a little bit more, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Loosing up the Maybe coloring outside of the lines a little bit, you know, whether usually starts in a fun way because I'm like that's a which is good Because she could be worse, but you know paying attention to these things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, when she hangs with Linda She's really polite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's really, you know, they're trying to live up to a standard together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, kind of a thing because Linda squared away But when Jenny comes over, you know, she's a little bit this which is cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't judge hey, we all have different flavors of friends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get it
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I see how her behavior.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now that radius with Jenny is going to be a little bit tighter, a little bit more monitor, do you see me saying so it's kind of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was probably shockingly liberal with my kids and their what they were doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I gave them all kind of leeway into do stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, with my girl's also a little bit a little bit more But barely I don't I don't the guy said no to my son To do stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I take that back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was one time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I told him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you're not doing that Yeah, you remember what was there was there was during the COVID George Floyd riots and protests and stuff and He's like, hey, I'm gonna go down to the protests tonight
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he didn't have any like political he wasn't like I'm gonna go down there You know and support the police or go support the the BLM He was just going down there because shit was going down You know what I mean because it's chaos and the funny thing is when I was like oh no, you're not and he was like he like didn't understand what I was saying
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, no, no, no, no, it's gonna be, you know, it's like technically, I'm going with this kid and this kid and like, we're just gonna go down and I was like, no, no, no, you're not, he's like, no, no, no, no, it's like, it's tonight, it's tonight, it's like, I was like, no, and I was like, hey, this is the situation where someone can easily get killed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can get wrapped up and doing something stupid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can have something stupid done to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can get killed by a protest or you can get killed by a cop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know you're just going down there to freaking experience chaos, because that's what a young kid wants to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's a mayhem going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this is what he must have been like around 14 or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but that's the only time or maybe it's 15.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like no you're not actually not doing that because there's so much chaos in those riots and every when a riot like riots are not good so that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the jacco underground podcast so if you want to continue to listen
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