it is educational, motivational and hilarious ... by examining dark periods in history, you learn to appreciate everything in your day to day life, ... it can point you to the staircase of self mastery, assist with achieving the mindset that challenges and obstacles in life are not only GOOD, but opportunities to sharpen your iron...To top it off Jocko and Echocharles have a hilarious dichotomy of personalities, that mesh perfectly... this podcast should not be overlooked !!!