This is a fantastic podcast, it’s educational, motivational, joyous, sad, raw, gritty, I’m utterly hooked. The podcast is what men of all ages need, but there are lessons for women also. The books Jocko and Echo recommend are fantastic, they get the best from the guests. I’ve taken up Jiu Jitsu and it was one of the best thing I’ve done, thanks Jocko and Echo, respect from Ireland.