498: Regardless of the Distractions, You Know What To Do. Do It.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Junkle podcast number four ninety eight with echo Charles and me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Junkle willing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good evening, echo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good evening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So last podcast number four ninety seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We covered an article by retired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's his Marine Corps Colonel Joseph H. Alexander and it was about combat leadership at Evil Gima, but that the place I got that document from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was from a Marine Corps Institute document, which is called Leadership Credo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just in going through that document, look, there's some pertinent information related.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The related to the article that we read about stress and friction and human will and, of course, about leadership.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the lessons that it teaches, I was thinking, and we can use these lessons, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's get into this document right here, Marine Corps Institute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Staff non-commissioned officers, career distance, education, program, leadership, credo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Leadership, credo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know the definition of credo?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What creed is?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, creed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very similar thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Credo is a statement or beliefs or aims which guides someone's actions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're, you're right, creed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you noticed there's been a little bit of news going around?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, people will ask a kind of a got you question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then a person doesn't know it and they just look bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm familiar with this trend for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I feel like I just did that to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not really.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I understand what you mean, but I don't think that'll play to me because I don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Chuck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Under no circumstances, am I required to know what credo means or my every day?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think for you, kind of honestly, you don't really have any requirements to know anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Very low requirements, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Chuck, leadership credo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Starts off with a quote.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No man is a leader until his appointment is ratified in the mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The mind's in hearts of his men, the infantry general, minute and forty eight, which is really important to remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you think just could you got a blank put on your shoulder or you got a title, you think now you're in charge, doesn't mean anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't mean anything if the people that work for you don't respect you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It also says leadership is the art of getting things done through people that's general Al Grey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Greyisms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have to comment on the Marine Corps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Carrying on leadership is the defining quality of Marine Senior NCOs and officers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good leadership inspires and motivates Marine to accomplish the mission.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Leadership emphasis on well leadership inspires others to take action.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To provide inspiration, the leader must affect the Marine positively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To do this, the leader must first understand the factors that determine a Marine's will to fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These factors include fear, courage, stress, and a shared sense of the mission.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So look, of course we're talking about Marines right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you talk about your company or your business or your team,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The things that the factors that play into a person's will to work hard to take the step to execute, these factors like a Marine's will-to-fight include fear-courage stress and a shared sense of mission.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although these qualities are intangible, they often determine the outcome of combat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But please take a note, take a moment to think about the fact that these things apply to whoever you are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to be a Marine in combat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Motivating Marines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The best leaders can motivate Marines to perform actions they wouldn't ordinarily perform.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyone can be put in charge of a group of Marines and lead them to the Chow Hall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why is that, Echo Charles?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Put you on the spot again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, because we're going to the Chow Hall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyone can lead the Marines to Chow Hall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: However, it's not as simple to motivate a Marine unit to continue fighting during difficult circumstances against a determined enemy such a challenge requires effective leadership.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So keep that in mind if you're on the, if you're on Ewo Jima and you've just lost forty of your guys on D Day alone, might be a little bit more challenging.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fast forward a little bit, Marine Core Legacy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Marine Core has a long legacy of success in battle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The cornerstone of success has been leadership.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Leadership by Marines who, in combat, refused to bend to the will of the enemy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This legacy of leadership of getting things done through people is now your mission.

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[SPEAKER_00]: combat is just getting just breaking the well of someone else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you feel that in jujitsu?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you just get caught, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is different than when your well gets broken.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When you were saying that, I was thinking about jujitsu or it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have I ever broken your will in Gjitsu?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, yeah a few times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so but you got a figure though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like Gjitsu has this very unique and well, sometimes I might feel like it's a unique characteristic where no, somebody can just simply be better than you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why in the beginning of Gjitsu when you first start or let's say you've never done it before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Someone who get you and be like, no, no, no, let's go again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they'll get you and you're just kind of want to come to you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, frick yeah, well, all day, exactly right freaking sick Jeff Gover on one of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So be like, I don't get it, you know, so put it this way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Someone who maybe I outweigh or you outweigh by a lot, but it's way better than you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not gonna, it's not like, it's not a really test of your wealth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just you like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe in some different sort of way, but yeah, but as opposed to, you get your own or one of these dudes who's gonna kind of like, oh, it's a very different experience.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, yes and no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep mission focus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You must think rationally make good decisions and inspire your Marines to renew their efforts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You must keep yourself and your Marines mission focused.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Furthermore, you must do this despite a clever, cunning, active enemy who is constantly devising and implementing ways to kill you in the Marines you lead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This idea, and you haven't been given gone off on a tangent on this in quite some times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm probably breaking my own rules, but used to be real into distractions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's because you have less distractions now than you used to, maybe it's because you learned how to overcome them, or maybe you've submitted to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a hundred percent sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, what do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You used to talk about distractions and how distractions were like a huge part of the friction that people face on life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is what they're talking about here and they're going to it more later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just warming up, you get your mind warmed up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because she's distracted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's her kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Leadership challenges, you will face tremendous challenges as a combat leader.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of your Marines will freeze, cover, or panic under fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Horrible wounds and deaths of friends and fellow Marines could become overwhelming and we read some of this on that last podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Guys that are just completely locking up or breaking down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Confident Battalion Commanders, eight, ten, twelve days into battle leading their men and they break down and they can't perform the crying they gotta be evacuated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The entire unit may suffer unimaginable hardships from heat, cold, thirst, hunger, or fatigue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The prompts of civilized life may be stripped away and you and your Marines will be fiercely bent on simply surviving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there are some of the challenges.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this has a little code in here that we might be familiar with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For us, combat was a series of changing events characterized by confusion, awesome violence, gripping, fear, physical stress and fatigue, fierce hatred of the enemy, and overwhelming grief over the loss of friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Think about that combination right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: awesome violence gripping fear, physical stress and fatigue, fierce hatred and overwhelming grief.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what these guys are experiencing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We endured viral personal filth in a repulsive environment saturated with the stench of death and decay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In combat, I saw little, new little and un-understood less about anything that occurred outside K, three, five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had our hands full fighting and trying to survive moment to moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that, of course, is EB sledge, sledgehammer with the old breed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what a characterization of emotions and thoughts, confusion, awesome violence gripping for your physical stress and fatigue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: fierce hatred, you know, overwhelming grief all at once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what you're feeling for day after day after day after day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he talks about the two challenges or the book talks about the two challenges face that we face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To achieve success in the face of these challenges, you must study and understand them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You will study two challenges and explore the problems that make they may cause the leader.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One, the will to fight and two, the friction of war.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the will to fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Combat is the supreme test of wills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a clash with an enemy who is determined to kill you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The enemies will keep him fighting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can defeat the enemies will, you can bend your enemy to your will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In combat, this is your central aim.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think what's really important is to identify that like when you identify it's is will against will and you have to break their will and now you understand the the pieces on the board and the way you move these pieces if it's gonna help break their will make the move if it doesn't help you break their will it's not worth it

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a first hand account.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Prior to the first World War, all armies fought in comparatively closed order.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The psychological reaction of the individual soldier was not so decisive since the fighting was done, not by the individual, but by the mass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the mass was held together by drill and discipline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Moreover, the psychological impressions of battle were simpler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In modern war, the impressions are much more powerful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Usually we fight against an enemy we cannot see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We no longer fight in great masses, but in small groups, often as individuals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, the psychological reaction of the individual has become increasingly important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As commanders, we must know the probable reaction of the individual and the means by which we can influence this reaction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's Captain Adolf von Schel from Battle Leadership, which we covered on probably the first twenty podcast we did here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then here's another one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because war is a clash between opposing wills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Human wills, the human dimension is central in war.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is the human dimension which infuses war with its intangible moral factors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: War is shaped by human nature and is subject to the complexities, inconsistencies, and peculiarities which characterize human behavior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Since war is an act of violence based on irreconcilable disagreement, it will invariably inflame and be shaped by human emotions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what I was thinking about here is, is that an advantage or a disadvantage to you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: you get put into a situation are the emotions that your better that are taking place both yours and your opponents are they advantageous to you or they disadvantageous to you and if you're not keep because sometimes do we not want to like a capture the emotions of the team and and accelerate those motions yeah

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, but sometimes are the emotions getting out of control?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we got a negative emotions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to try and subdue those as much as we can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Suppress them a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But positive emotions we want to elevate them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then what about your own emotions?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because those can also be tricky and they can help you out or they can hurt you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, as you know, I spent some time alone these past few days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you start thinking, emotions is another one of those ones that I thought about for a while, as I'm doing circles in my yard, by myself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But this is going to seem real obvious, but when you kind of think about it, it's like you kind of think about the depths and how deep it goes or whatever in all the different situations it applies to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, yeah, you can have, you can have elevated elevated elevated emotions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it'll still help you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing that makes emotions, as far as I can tell, the only thing that makes emotions a negative is when you can't control them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you can take a negative emotion no matter how much or how little.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you have it and you use it for what you're trying to use it for, it'll help you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Same thing with positive emotions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Same thing with, it's even like stuff like being sad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know how, you know how like you would think on the surface, like, I don't know who would want to be sad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, that's a, that's a, that's a sad movie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen to sad songs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just like people go to horror films.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My family, my kids watch horror films.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My kids watch horror films.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My wife can't even be in the house if there's a horror film on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ain't happening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the heart of the horror film.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Weird because

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's an element, you know, people who like horror films, and some two degree I do too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's just more, I feel like, no matter how scary and glory, you know, there's like, you know, intense stuff going on there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You kind of can retreat to the inner safety of the fact that this is just a movie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's kind of like, you know, when it rains outside and it feels cozy because you're in here, you know, kind of a thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's almost like there's that going on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But nonetheless, but the sad thing doesn't really explain like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't feel like it anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like let's say you go through a breakup and you want to these feelers, you know, and you go through a breakup and then you want to listen to like some sad song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like you want more sadness.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's weird.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you get pleasure in these, if you can kind of control like, but when you when you can't control it,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh freaking hate being sad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hate being mad, sad, scared, for all these negative emotions or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, bro, if you can't control it, it sucks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you can control them, they're gonna be good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Even like positive emotions, if you can't control them, you get too excited.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And here's one of the things I thought of too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, while I'm walking circles in my yard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Positive emotions are one of the main contributing factors to me getting injured a lot of the time because I get distracted by the excitement or the this or the that and I don't pay attention that I slip or I freaking don't brace like Because I kind of hurt myself doing deadlift.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just it wasn't terribly, but it was just a little bit

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was like, I was just getting too fired up, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But so I didn't pay attention to my technique.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the same.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that can happen a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why like little kids, they get excited and they stop there to on the side of the freakie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because they tried to run through the door.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like that kind of scenario.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you can control it, you'd be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And believe it or not, you can control your emotions is a learned process.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, clearly, little kids have not learned to control their emotions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why they have temper tantrums.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then hopefully, like a teenager has learned to control some of their emotions, but they haven't controlled them all yet, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're still going to do some ignorant type activities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to lose their temper, slam the door, whatever, y'all mad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But hopefully, by the time you're adult, you have control over your emotions and your emotions aren't controlling you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in combat or in a contest of any kind, how are these emotions?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fighters that like, oh, I'm going to get him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You ever seen a fighter that was about to win?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he put a guy back on the seals and they goes ham and like gasses himself out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or gasses himself out on a freaking guillotine choke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're just dead after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's like an emotional or you ever seen the emotional fighter that would come out mad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know like you talk so much shit during the during the pre-fight conference that I'm just like so mad I just go go crazy and get emotional and I lose the fight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, if you can't control it because sometimes let's face it some guys MMA is a good on where when they're mad, but you can tell they're just using that anger as like this fuel for their game or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, you know back when Dean won, I think it was

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, ADC-C, like he like when he won the absolute he like lost right his idea yesterday before yeah, so so I forget who I think might have been kidchip illegal He's I think he's the one who said this might have been I forget who it was but he said no Dean you could tell he was mad he was like his anger He used it as fuel and that's why he won Yeah, and I was like huh that would make sense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's true or not

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I remember thinking just like I'm thinking now, like, that's a thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can totally use negative energy and anger and all this stuff for good and for it to be beneficial if you can control it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are the facts right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To overcome the enemy's will, you must inspire and maintain a strong will to fight in your own troops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Combat can cause a wide range of human responses from freezing under fire to acts of extraordinary valor and courage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But leader must ask how will my Marines react to enemy contact?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can never be certain because so many intangible factors affect human will, such fear, anguish, a spree, and unique cohesion to name only a few.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Furthermore, your Marines' reactions to combat will vary from man to man and from time to time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some will fight more bravely in one engagement, but less in the next, but one point is certain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You, the leader, have tremendous influence on the fighting spirit of your Marines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, it doesn't matter what the leadership situation is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That leader has a huge amount of influence on the people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can be really positive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can be really negative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Combat stress in combat certain factors and reactions can inhibit a marine's will to fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These factors and reactions fall under the category of combat stress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Factors causing combat stress include stress, fear, panic, shock, fatigue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some reactions are called acute stress reactions because they cause immediate loss of performance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: An example of acute stress reactions that fear you would experience if you suddenly came face to face with an enemy tank at close range.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, you heard me on the last podcast like, I don't know how a tank.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how an enemy tank is suddenly appearing to you at close range.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, you'd be here in some noise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some factors and reactions called cumulative stress build stress over time and include fatigue, anguish and repeated exposure to danger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So on the last podcast, they talked about these two types of combat fatigue, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: One was immediate and acute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, hey, I'm on the beach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're getting mordered in machine gun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting in this first crater that I find.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not getting out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As opposed to your fourteen days in sixteen days in eighteen days in Anaya Break from the continuous fear and stress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it goes into that a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A cute stress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sudden expected relatively short duration and very intense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fear is the most common source of acute stress in combat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fear is a reaction to danger since combat is inherently dangerous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dangerous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fear is universal among men in battle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This makes fear not a sign of cowardice but part of combat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like how they say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just part of combat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is no not part of combat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going into combat, there's going to be machine guns and there's going to be fear.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Humans instinctively want to survive and combat threatens them with death, fear of injury, fear of pain and fear of being permanently disabled or normal in combat situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As men see other men being killed and injured and combat their fears become more intense, they know the same can happen at them at any moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, the unknown is a great source of fear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is something that I talked about in the book Mikey in the dragons, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, that anticipation is so much worse than the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so much worse than the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's being backstage with fighters or grapplers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can see everyone all nervous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you then, you know, once you get out there, you're just doing your thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, certain weapons cause a lot of fear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The amount of fear usually depends on what the Marine perceives he can do about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For example, being ordered a bomb may raise great fear and the infantrymen because he usually cannot respond directly to the source of the fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Marines, or sorry, mines and booby traps have the same effect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: On the other hand, the infantrymen may deal better with fear caused by receiving enemy small ones because he can usually fire back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is something that is important to think about in your world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's certain things in your world that you can't really control.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't even like the market changes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're afraid of the market's going to change the market.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you can't really control that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what can you control?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What can you deal with right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What can you impact?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But sitting around and worrying about something like the market is not going to be helpful to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're better off freaking just getting out there and getting after it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It talks about the German stuka dive bomber, which had the siren mountain on it, so when it would attack the dive bomber would be like, and how that caused much more fear than normal, which is kind of, it's kind of horrifying, and cool at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fear causes both physiological and emotional reactions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Physiological reactions include trembling hands, nausea, perspiration, and increased breathing and heart rate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These reactions are not necessarily bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If effectively controlled, they help the body prepare for danger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, controlled fear increases your ability to react to physical threats and survive them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you get that adrenaline flowing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're kind of hyped up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not necessarily a bad thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, we don't live like that because then it can become a bad thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Panic is a sudden burst of emotion that results in flight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is particularly dangerous to a unit because it spreads rapidly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it kind of crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the ultimate form of group think is a panic situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A group panic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, eh, in combat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After studying incidents of panic during World War II, SLA Martial noted two distinct steps in a unit that panics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First, some friendly action, such as the unexpected withdrawal of an adjacent unit, was misunderstood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Soldiers watching the adjacent unit withdraw, panicked because they feared they would be isolated and surrounded by the enemy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This in turn caused the panic to spread quickly, and the entire unit fled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The ally, they talked about the World War I, how a runner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Meaning hey echo go take this message to the rear and tell him we need more weapons or more ammunition So you go raise your running back and someone's easier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's running.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm running Lexi know it's five people ten people of them everyone's running.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a weird It's actually not weird that makes sense If let's say you're on the downtown San Diego daytime just walking

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[SPEAKER_02]: And someone's walking towards you or in front of you, whatever, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they all of a sudden just start running.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, probably you're at least going to feel it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It depends on personality, but you're at least going to whatever cause people to panic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to feel that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's weird.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No other context except for them just running all of a sudden.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's weird how that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's almost like it's like a

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tribal instinct, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like it instincts like you know how people like they say a lot of times if they say it in this weird kind of esoteric way, but they're like, oh yeah, we're all kind of we're all connected or whatever We can kind of zoom out and be like wait a second.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there is like this thing that's connecting all of us, you know And then someone interrupting it kind of like short circuits us for a little bit, you know, how they interrupt in those little teeny tiny ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and there's got to be some So we're up at bull hill ranch for

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[SPEAKER_00]: the council and when we were up there we know that we ride horses and actually I've been running horses for the last year because the way the schedule set up but the first time we were not been riding horses there was like an incident with the horses where two of the horses got tangled up they started fighting and there's like thirty five horses but they all got like some of them some of them just started running right the one I was on I had to like chill that thing out and I'm not an experienced horsewriter

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by that, I mean that was my first time riding on a horse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, go, okay, buddy, like, okay, it's okay, it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you could feel like the tension and same thing when you see a dog park or like a dog, like one dog starts running, they all get nuts, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just not that different that a human sees a human running and you think what what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Panic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So your behavior, especially from a leadership perspective, when you start to panic, and another thing is like, what is your psychological state when you see someone else running?

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[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are in combat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're already afraid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they see someone, that's all they need to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Check.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it says panic usually begins in the rear and moves forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why maneuver warfare tactics stress getting into your enemy's rear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you must remember,

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[SPEAKER_00]: that a capable enemy will be trying to do the same to you, and will sometimes succeed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your marine's tend to panic, your marine's may tend to panic when they feel cut off, isolated, or encircled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this has shock or freezing underfires the most common reaction to uncontrolled fear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You may observe Marines who completely lose the ability to act when they suddenly find themselves in danger and overcome by fear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I remember when it used to just be fight or flight, and then it became fight, fight or freeze, because people realize like, that's the most common thing is locking up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're locked up from fear,

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, I feel like I have, but I can't remember a very particular time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel like you'd be like the head like straight kind of a scenario.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some will count in their fighting holes or sleeping bags unable to fight no matter the circumstances others will have the will to fight but find themselves physically exhausted and unable to move to fire a weapon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and people just accept it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was watching a thing about every other day and it's just at a certain point people are like, I'm not, I'm not going anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then you're gonna die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know like, I guess I'm gonna die then.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they might not say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when someone is saying, hey, I'm gonna leave you here unless you get up and start walking and they're like, go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just accepting death.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's quite the same as fight or flight or freeze, but that's more like will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just their will is broken.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they're, they'd rather like death is like a relief of some, yeah, existing torment or something like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: yeah the freeze feels like it's like your brain kind of you know on a certain level kind of shuts down because it doesn't know what option to pick like you know like the you know the front part I guess the front part of your brain is like okay logically if since it's coming from here I'm gonna come from here go from here and since I see other stuff over here I'm gonna not go you know it has this like decision making like sequence you know but one that the one it kind of

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[SPEAKER_02]: short circuits because it's like too much to process or whatever it's like it's like almost like a flash of you have zero options therefore you act on all available which is not just locked up yeah locked up yeah that's what it feels like

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[SPEAKER_00]: then it gets into the source of courage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Any of these reactions may be temporary lasting only as long as the danger is present or the reaction may incapacitate a man indefinitely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: However, fear can also be a source of courage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fear of letting his comrades down is common in men who are about to enter battle for the first time, particularly in cohesively tightly-knit units, Marshall noted the following in men against fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When fire sweeps the field, nothing keeps a man from running except the sense of honor, the bound obligation to the people right around him, of fear of failure in their sight, which might eternally disgrace him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what's keeping you there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna look bad in front of my friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's Tony of Freddy once said, I'd rather die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like horrified of heights and you had to remember that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had to freaking repel off some giant building in Hong Kong and he was just scared like no part of his humanity wanted to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he had definitely not want to look weak and he just went just overcame the most primordial fear But he doesn't care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like better to die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would hundred percent relate to that but I'd read just yeah, I'd rather just die than go out looking like up

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know I'm saying yeah the I got asked that question on the podcast with Chris Williams at the other day it was like you know overcoming fear and I said go you know very

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's something that you learn, you know, you learn in the military, at least for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That waiting is not going to help you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your fear is not going to dissipate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to get worse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was skiing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like springtime things are getting pretty thin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was like legit little.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was legit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is going to take some courage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I hate to use that word when I'm talking about skiing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was like potential danger, like potential.

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[SPEAKER_00]: injury right rocks snow ice steepness but I'm standing there and in my head I was just like yeah I'm going like you know blah blah blah blah blah like oh you think it's like you think it's about you know like conversations are happening and I'm just like you know what I mean just learn that you just gotta go yeah yep that's real

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[SPEAKER_02]: My daughter did that when we were skiing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she's skiing or snowboarding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was skiing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was snowboarding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, I got a snowboard snowboard for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My boy's got Cardiff snowboards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now I got one for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just coming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, that's thanks for all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't fire it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, but yeah, so he was like he said Echo is really into snowboard, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, hey, really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this a strong word?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But would he like probably to have a card of snowboard for most likely?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just freaking down for the causal too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so your daughter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're on the top of the mountain.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, you know, at this point, I was like, I wasn't brand new, but I was like, kind of new.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm with her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you know how like, at this point, what does she maybe like nine years old, maybe, I don't know, ten.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm thinking, like, that's what I'm worried about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't need this girl freaking charging this freaking hill and then hurting herself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm responsible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and I'm like relatively new.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not like some pro snorbo snowboarder where I can just trick and mosey down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I got this, you know, kind of a thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm there's an element of nervousness and she was scared.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if she was scared or not, but we were hesitant up there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, okay, wait, like, if she falls down, maybe I can go over there and kind of, you know, so I'm making this plan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: So she's looking at it, looking at it, not saying nothing, looking at she's like, I'm going, it's just going.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, oh, I didn't feel like the control, but then I was like, huh, she just, I feel like she just charged.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was like, bro, I'm tired, it's just standing up here and like waiting, you know, for the unknown to like overcome me, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I always have felt in combat for sure, like being aggressive and having aggressive mindset is safer than being scared and being passive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same thing with the jujitsu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you show up at the jujitsu and you feel like, oh, we're doing this type, oh, we're doing stand up and you're feeling like lax today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it cool or you're feeling like Anna?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I want to stand up to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to get hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're doing stand up, freaking get it on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Get it on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't, don't be like weak like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, speaking of fear and overcoming fear, I put this together the other day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which was pretty wild.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was actually at the council and we were talking, you know, we cover every subject of the council and we get like granular.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, they ask questions about all different aspects of life, including family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the individuals was asking, you know, how to like an incident with his daughter, who was nine years old?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he didn't, you know, he didn't like the outcome of the incident.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the first thing I relate to him was the story that you and I have discussed, which is like, hey, your son is five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I went to the fact that I just said these things that your kids do at a young age, it has almost zero.

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[SPEAKER_00]: impact on the trajectory of their life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the example that I ended up really nailing was, Rana, my daughter, when she was probably eight years old or something, she was so horrified to compete in a Gjutsu tournament that she got dizzy, got pale, was sick and fell down and couldn't compete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was so horrified of competing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what made me think of this example was like she just competed the other day and looked like she was going to a party.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she was having so much fun smiling and dancing and like just loving life and it's my point in saying that is if you got kids and you think that this little one little tiny day to point on their personality, you think it's like the beginning of the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When in fact, it probably has almost zero impact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost zero zero impact like it's got to be a couple point zero zero zero zero zero one and maybe the impact it'll have is like push them in the other direction Yeah, you know, maybe a ran at some point was like well, I'm gonna get more you know I'm gonna become more confident or something like that, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can't freak out when your kids are a little.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now listen, if your kid has some pattern, some negative pattern for months at a time, then it's like, okay, you know, maybe I need to help them out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But a lot of is just like, whatever, dude, like it's just a little kid doing a little random thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't put a bunch of money on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I learned a lot from that day and you know, as time goes on, you start to recognize that, that kind of sequence of things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it, it's almost like, you know, also another expression that you say, it's like, it's a data point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, yeah, it's a data point, but it's kind of even a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a data point at the end of the day, but it's just one single unit at a certain time, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Things change, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know how like the idea of late bloomers yeah um physically i mean you know the late bloomers can apply to a lot of stuff i understand but physically you know people they have their growth spurt like in their late teens or their twenties sometime

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, that's like saying, oh wait, he's like the second shortest kid in his kindergarten class.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Therefore, he's gonna be, you know, like he's not gonna grow that much or something like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the same, like evaluation process, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, it's like one data point at a very specific point of time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, and that, you say that about Rana, like I didn't know that about Rana, like that she was like that nervous or didn't want to compete with whatever, horrified.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll tell you right now, but if she saw me the other day, she never did a competition, she didn't cry at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even when she would win, she'd cry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's borderline unbelievable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Give me how she is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's having all kinds of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It means ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's almost like a different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you were, if you didn't understand what we're talking about, you would think there's no possible way that a kid that started like that would finish like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You wouldn't seem possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you got kids and you have fear because your kid, you know, didn't want to do something or didn't perform the way you expected or quit early on some little thing or the other one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the spectrum is someone that's a little kid that's super determined.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those kids get burnt out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't want to do anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just chill.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So here's a mistake and I say this is a deviation from from the main core and war for sure, but the principles with the kid is relevant.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It can work the other way too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you know how like, um, this is a common thing where let's say the mom of the grandma, whatever, thinking from my experience where let's say your kids, uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll say my experience.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My daughter was good at swimming and she could stand like cold water for some reason, like better than all of us, everyone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like during the wintertime, I know it's not East Coast or nothing like this, but San Diego when it gets wintertime, the pool gets colder than normal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to get in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But she's like, she don't care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like literally a non-fact.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm from Coi.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But she'll just jump in like on as if she's not trying to impress nobody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's just jumping because yeah, she's jumping in the pool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, she she'd always been like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she got good at swimming really early.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're like, oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, let's put her in swimming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we put her in swimming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, I don't really like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, hey, just just give it a good try.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because me, just like Jiu Jitsu, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Whereas like, hey, once you get your first submission, you're going to be hooked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I already know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like anything you get success at early.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're good chance or you're going to like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I knew she would do good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So she joins swimming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, she does good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She wins like her meet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like she won.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She, uh, she wins first place.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everything will time except for like two second place things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When it's on like all proud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This girl's going to be the swimmer, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I was already hip to this notion where if I'm in my mind, oh, she's gonna be freaking the swimmer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna like be too overbearing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm not turning her off of, you know, because I know everything, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you know, it's like I risk that and I knew that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I had to stick with my word, but I was on the inside.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I felt that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh my gosh, this girl's she's gonna love it and it's gonna be, you know, I'm ready to get her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: all kinds of support and like all this stuff right but I didn't sure enough she was like I mean it was cool fun to win but I don't like swimming she simply didn't like it so it's like just because they're good at it and like it at this point doesn't mean you start rearranging your whole life in their whole future for that one thing you know you got to let time and just one data point yeah and the other thing is like think about what you were doing when you were nine years old you know what I mean

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's totally ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now with me, I was running around in the woods, like with a freaking charcoal cork blackened in my face, where the camouflage top, trying to shoot my buddy Jeff with a BB gun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So was high though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was enjoying that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that was not my thing, but which is actually part of the point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How come you didn't join the military?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to be an architect actually what's Interestingly like Kate Nautz you didn't see Kate Nautz gone you're like you know what yeah, they were like well Jeremy's dad was an ABC and then kickle and Jeremy with they're just like fuck yeah, this is what we're doing you know kind of a thing and and they was drag you into it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were they wanted to be like maybe seals.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like proud of him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe seal about a false sense to you whatever, but they were he had like a very specific like

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they didn't get you hyped on it at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even if you were around playing BB guns, BB guns in the woods and your buddies like, you know, we're going to go do this for real.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to like hell yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but I was way more of a mellow person.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I wasn't like, but there's mellow teen guys That has no bearing on my personality or what I wanted to do at all and you got to think too on Incoi the military culture is not super strong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not like that's not like the you know if someone's just floating in the in the wins you don't I don't I'd hardly know anyone who went in the military.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I know like three four guys besides Jeremy King that's

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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, yeah, one of my best friend he went, he's a pilot, and then one guy went into the army that I remember.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's probably a whole thing, a whole number of mysteries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you would have gone, maybe you would have learned about overcoming fear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fear is a powerful force in battle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is common all men rarely discussed and understood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll feel it yourself, instead of denying fear you need to think about a plan for it and learn how to lead yourself in your Marines, despite an actin spite of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is still just something that you can't really a hundred percent get control over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People are going to be afraid, but it is very good to let them know what they're feeling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they know what they're feeling, it makes it easier overcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know we had some MMA fighters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would, I had a kind of a standard speech for them and maybe fighters when I'd see that and those nerves start to kick up and just talk about, hey, there's some things you can't control.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Over in Iraq, you could be driving down the street, you could blown up, killed by a freaking roadside bomb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That can happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know how much I worried about that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Barely any, because I couldn't control it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I worried about getting shot or getting a firefighter to have one of my guys get wounded to kill, but if I could, there's some things you can't control.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just like when you're about to go on this cage and fight this person, there's some things you can't control.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might get caught with a freaking left hook that knocks you out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might get caught with a, caught with a straight right that you just go down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've trained as hard as you can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing more you could do about it right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What you can do is go out there and fight your fight and focus on what you can control.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what you gotta deal with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So same thing with guys you two guys like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And combat like going to the bathroom a bunch of times before an operation you like, did you never know I'm not nervous?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all good, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're supposed to be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that how you would say that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And even recently where you when you say these feelings are feeling are normal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: indicate that it's normal it's it's like you almost give them permission to have those feelings and then not panic for having those feelings you know kind of a thing because the element of panic is kind of like showing you look around you can't read somebody's mind like he's sure this guy seems a little bit nervous but brought on the inside I feel like ten times as nervous as this person looks you know so you think there's something kind of wrong with you and you might short circuit or whatever you know

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then once someone says, oh, no, that's normal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, oh, wait, I can feel like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you feel like way less like destructively nervous, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember the football camp where

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[SPEAKER_02]: in college football camp you know like two days and condition like it's it's freaking so it's it's not a very fun experience given the whole football experience is the least fun part and it's uh... however many weeks or whatever and then you get a lot of new guys from you know out of town and stuff and you know

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the freshmen, they're new to the state and it's like, you're just doing football and it's like, you get home sick real quick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I remember thinking shoot man, am I like not cut out for this?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cause I'm not enjoying this anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like football is not fun right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I gotta dedicate my quote of current life to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like freakin' breath.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Put some question marks for coming in my head.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then,

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[SPEAKER_02]: About that time this other guy from I was from Hawaiian we're still in Hawaii so it's kind of whatever this other guy from my Kentucky He was like he's just straight up overtly saying this isn't for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm leaving.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna quit like this just this isn't for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like what what's not for you's like man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is just not for me man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't couldn't put his finger on it

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[SPEAKER_02]: The thing is probably we're all going through that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it's, it becomes less and less fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You feel claustrophobic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You feel like you're in prison.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like all these little feelings that it's almost like you can put your finger on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They add up after after certain amount of time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then everyone would laugh on them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the veterans, the guys who have been there for a while, they'd like laugh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he'd be like, what the hell are you with?

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, bro, that's how it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be better when school starts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember one guy said that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he's like, I don't know man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he kept saying it for days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Every single person would say, oh, they'd laugh and they say it'll get better when school starts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this is like normal, like everyone feels like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And everyone knows what to say, everyone knows the process, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So then I felt, I felt way better after that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, okay, I guess this is normal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess I'm allowed to feel like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's a key component.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can help your kids out with that a lot too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh yeah, it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you be afraid right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, you're going to a new school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's never going to the new school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've said that to a thousand people coming into victory MMA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, well, I've just never trained before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, there's four more people in the class that you're going to right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've never trained before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're all going to get in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're all going to do fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It happens every day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was so funny because, well, I got the words from you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, hey, that's normal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of saying, hey, don't worry about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, instead of saying, hey, don't feel this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're sad you're mad or whatever and it applies to everything not just not just fear so I'd use it with my daughter because you know like girls when they breach puberty and all this stuff they feel like insecure and oh my god, they listen all that and bro I would use that thing every day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like yeah, that's normal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's part of like this whole process whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I've gone and talked to a lot of people

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[SPEAKER_00]: um both military and law enforcement and milit and yeah military and law enforcement where it's like oh yeah you went you went through something really terrible and you feel sad angry confused depressed and um and chaotic in your brain yeah that's normal cool yeah it'll go away like it won't go completely away won't go away overnight but like you're gonna live on you're gonna keep you doing stuff and you'll feel it sometime you'll think about you friends that you lost

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, you missed your friends that you lost?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's totally normal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Totally normal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, drive on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Back to the document.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The cumulative effects of combat stress are the greatest of all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In World War II, nearly twenty-five percent of all casualties were related to stress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In some units, stress casualties were equal or equal to or greater than those from death and injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dang.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Early combat experience usually builds confidence and steals a man for future combat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: However, this is true only to a point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As stress mounts with each new enemy contact, a marine's performance suffers and adverse reactions begin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some end-developed fatalistic attitudes joking about death believing it's only a matter of time before the number opens up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Been there done that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They may throw caution to the wind and behave irrationally in the face of fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Others may experience great internal conflict as stress builds and they try to overcome their loss of courage All things are all that all things that can take place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny the The like irrational anger and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to see that sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, yes, that would be just guys would be I'm and you see this in any or in any situation when people are stressful mm-hmm

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[SPEAKER_00]: When there's a lot of stress put on, they lash out, they break, they yell, they scream like, that's all just normal, this is the way it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then you put them in combat for extended period of time, that's gonna maybe even happen even more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing that's funny is when you come home, kind of people forget about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of like, we forget about the bad stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stress-related suicide, such men may deliberately seek death as the only honorable escape from their predicament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Others may take their own lives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: During the six-hour aerial bombardment prior to Operation Goodwood, the nineteen forty-four Allied breakout from a Normandy Beachhead, at least twenty-five German soldiers committed suicide.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I try to find a source that I couldn't find them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying it's not true, but that's really fascinating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would think if I thought I was gonna die and I was a soldier I would do everything I can if I'm gonna die to kill as many of my enemies as I possibly could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't just do their job for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a really weird outcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess if you're suffering a bombardment for six hours and you're just knowing you're gonna lose and you're just waiting to die in some horrible way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know I got well, I'll just finish the job I guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Today it is generally accepted that all men have a breaking point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is no doubt that troops, however well led can only take the stress of battle for so long than they break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Any commander at any level who tries to overdraw the account is courting disaster, the mental and physical

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[SPEAKER_00]: constantly interact, therefore physical fatigue, hunger, disease, thirst, and above all the stress of adverse climactic conditions, climatic conditions, can reduce the physical state of the soldier to such an extent that is wiltified as broken.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: fatigue makes back cowards of us all, but so can cold, so can heat, so can freaking sores on your feet and and musketos, no, and actually like all those little things combined together, they can break your will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, that was major general TS heart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Each man's breaking point is difficult.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sorry, identifying each man's breaking point is difficult.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If not impossible, some men draw from a deep will of courage while others break early from from the anxiety of entering combat for the first time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rest and encouragement can replenish the will only to a certain degree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're saying like, oh, yeah, if you if you get broken,

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[SPEAKER_00]: rest is only going to replenish you to a certain point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that depends on how broken you let them get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if they get a little bit, you know, a little fracture can heal back up, but maybe like a compound fracture that's completely broken, sticking through the skin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's not going to heal up all the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: While most of your Marines will never reach their breaking points, some will, depending on the severity of the breakdown, their incapacity may be short or long-term.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Many psychiatric casualties are reversible if they receive prompt treatment as close to the front as possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of in line with what we've been saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But some severe cases require long-term treatment in rear area medical facilities, a few never recover.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go, get them off the front lines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Get them to the help as quick as you possibly can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you got somebody at work that's starting to break, they start to get stressed out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're starting to see them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not eating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're looking sick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're feeling they're getting sick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're freaking out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're losing their temper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, give them a break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People need to break sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Over time, the cumulative effects of anxiety, anger, anguish fatigue, boredom, and repeated exposure to danger reduces combat effectiveness in almost all men.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As you lead Marines in pro-long combat, watch carefully for signs of stress related breakdown and treat quickly, stress casualties can be just a debilitating as those caused by death or physical injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So as a leader, you gotta be paying attention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Many factors determine a marine's will to fight combat factors such as fear stress fatigue and fatigue affect each marine differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Since it's impossible to predict or measure the impact these combat factors will have on your men, you as a marine leader must do your best to prepare yourself and your men.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Study and learn human behavior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in combat and use your own actions at an example to possibly affect your men's will to fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You are the most important factor keeping your Marines fighting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as much as all I just laid out, this is an interesting quote here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is my belief that no one can give a prescription for a correct application of the principle of psychology and war.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing of which we are certain is this, this psychology of the soldier is always important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No commander lacking in this inner knowledge of his men can accomplish great things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's so variable that they don't actually say Hey, here's how you handle this It's so variable that's like oh this guy might be in one day Totally stressed out get him to the rear this guy might let make it fourteen days before he gets stressed out and you send him to the rear I guess the only thing is not variable is You have to be alive identify it you have to pay attention to it and then when it happens you got to pull somewhere to the rear

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, it's pretty clear that people are more afraid of what they can't see than what they can see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're also more afraid when they don't have control versus when they have control.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like for me, I always felt more scared in a vehicle than on foot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because in a vehicle, you have less control.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In a home V, on the vehicle commander, I can be like stop, go, turn left, turn right, in a tank, or in a Bradley.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like you have no I have no control sitting in the back with a bunch of freaking soldiers and Marines and that that that that thing is going that Bradley is going where it's going and if it gets blowed up you're just getting blowed up you know so I had the most tension I would say like fear but the most like discomfort in a Bradley with a least amount of control and then the Humvee with a little more control and then on foot I'm in control

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this next section deals with the other thing that we have to contend with as a leader, which is the friction of war.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it says friction is the force that makes apparently easy, that makes the apparently easy so difficult.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Friction inhibits effective performance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When a plan fails, because the trucks do not arrive or the link-up unit gets lost, this is friction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Friction is not a difficult concept to understand because you can see it daily during both peace and war.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So portrayed war appears a simple enterprise, but in practice because the countless factors that imping upon at the conduct of war becomes extremely difficult.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's from war fighting, Marine Corps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything in war is simple, but the simplest thing is difficult.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The difficulties that accumulate by end by producing a kind of friction that is inconceivable unless one is experienced war.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Friction is the only concept that distinguishes real war from war on paper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's Carl von Klauswitz from his famous book on war, which we have not covered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People ask me a lot of times where we haven't covered on war yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the main reason we haven't is because I prioritized other books that I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: more accurately reflect what I've experienced.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I like B.H.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Little Del Hark, who is kind of counter to, he's the other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of the, maybe it's a strong, but a little bit more opposing of the, uh, Klaus sweats video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the Klaus sweats video, there's plenty of good takeaways that we should pay attention to myself included.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'm like here, uh, what do those, um, like a hipster with music?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a hipster with music is like, oh, that band?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they're, they're so popular.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't listen to that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like an elitist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I like the, I like the, the more lower unknown, not the visual that hard is unknown, but he's definitely not as popular as classmates.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then again, we've covered it up on a really popular stuff, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, free, we covered Napoleon for crying out loud and, and Sun, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've covered the greatest hits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's a greatest hits we haven't covered yet, and that's cost whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I need to get in the game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Check.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Opposing wills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is impossible to fully appreciate friction and combat until you've experienced it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Enormous friction is generated simply by the fact that combat is uniquely dangerous and the reality is that the enemy is trying to kill you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The very essence of war, a clash between opposed wills creates friction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The enemy is not an inanimate object, but an independent and active force that seeks to resist your will and impose your own will on you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This dynamic interplay between the enemies will and your will makes more difficult complex and full of friction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we were talking earlier about paintball versus live fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is an interesting thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you're using paintball,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and people are shooting at paintball at you and you don't really want to get hit, but you still don't really mind that much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So on the one side, I might run across the street and grab echo and drag him back even though there's people shooting paintball at me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do like a full freaking metal of honor run to freaking save you, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we might think, oh, well, that's not really realistic because you aren't actually getting shot at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not actually going to die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it kind of gets leveled out because the people that are shooting at me, my guys are putting down cover fire on them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the fact that they're still shooting is a little bit unrealistic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They might be not be taking such accurate shots because they're freaking like scared of getting shot themselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it evens out a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you wouldn't be so brave, but the enemy wouldn't be so accurate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This kind of reminds me of I'll be training with like, I had this discussion actually with Meha, because like, if I get a heel hook on you, but we're just, we're just training, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I get a heel hook on you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm not gonna put the full effect of the heel hook to where I'm gonna hurt you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But also,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you're not going to go as crazy defending it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nor are you going to take it as far as you would if we were in competition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it kind of evens out that if we were training, I put a heel hook on you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a good solid heel hook.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I go to start apply the press and you

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't apply it so hard because I don't want to hurt you at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not defending as chaotic, but more important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're taking it further because you're a little bit more brave because I'm a little bit more chill.

01:01:23.060 --> 01:01:25.782
[SPEAKER_00]: But if we escalate both those things, we're probably pretty realistic.

01:01:26.383 --> 01:01:34.849
[SPEAKER_00]: So if I was going harder, but you were taking it further, then, you know, we probably get to a place where just the training, the eighty-five percent.

01:01:35.409 --> 01:01:43.015
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, you know, you might say to me, like, if you get out of a heel hook, you might be like, I might say, like, I would have had you if I went all the way.

01:01:43.295 --> 01:01:48.599
[SPEAKER_00]: And you had been like, well, I would have defended more and I would have taken it to a more of a limitation, right?

01:01:49.520 --> 01:01:50.160
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's face.

01:01:50.180 --> 01:01:51.882
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not, we're not training.

01:01:52.729 --> 01:01:53.670
[SPEAKER_00]: are ACLs.

01:01:56.613 --> 01:02:01.517
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think when you're training appropriately, it does reflect very closely the real thing.

01:02:02.298 --> 01:02:04.020
[SPEAKER_00]: Not quite the real thing, but the real thing.

01:02:04.160 --> 01:02:05.101
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that makes sense.

01:02:05.181 --> 01:02:06.282
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, I never thought about that.

01:02:06.622 --> 01:02:07.103
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

01:02:07.443 --> 01:02:09.465
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, you're way more

01:02:10.994 --> 01:02:25.953
[SPEAKER_02]: inclined to, you know, stay in the pocket, see if you can't wiggle out of that arm bar, heel hook or whatever, when the guy's not kicking cranking on that thing, like it, like he's trying to really rip it off, like he would be in the competition, right?

01:02:26.153 --> 01:02:26.974
[SPEAKER_00]: And but also,

01:02:27.515 --> 01:02:34.258
[SPEAKER_00]: If you get my arm in a competition, I might let that thing pop two, three, four times, and I can still functionally fight.

01:02:34.278 --> 01:02:35.258
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that I'm injured now.

01:02:35.678 --> 01:02:37.019
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I can still get through the fight.

01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:39.080
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a little bit.

01:02:39.180 --> 01:02:40.721
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very realistic surprisingly.

01:02:40.881 --> 01:02:42.241
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you get that weird balance.

01:02:42.401 --> 01:02:44.582
[SPEAKER_00]: Except for maybe with chokes because chokes you can take out.

01:02:44.822 --> 01:02:45.743
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know what I mean?

01:02:45.763 --> 01:02:46.903
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's go to many.

01:02:46.943 --> 01:02:47.443
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.

01:02:47.483 --> 01:02:47.764
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.

01:02:50.705 --> 01:02:51.705
[SPEAKER_00]: Sources of friction.

01:02:51.845 --> 01:02:55.526
[SPEAKER_00]: Friction comes from both external and self-imposed sources.

01:02:55.666 --> 01:03:00.707
[SPEAKER_00]: External friction is imposed by factors such as enemy action, the terrain, the weather, or mere chance.

01:03:01.188 --> 01:03:08.230
[SPEAKER_00]: Self-imposed friction includes factors such as a lack of clearly defined goals, a lack of coordination, and unclear complicated plans.

01:03:08.730 --> 01:03:12.591
[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't it interesting that the freaking friction that we have to fight against?

01:03:12.611 --> 01:03:15.692
[SPEAKER_00]: A bunch of it comes from us.

01:03:17.908 --> 01:03:18.869
[SPEAKER_00]: Please keep that in mind.

01:03:18.889 --> 01:03:22.072
[SPEAKER_00]: A bunch of the friction in your life is self-generated.

01:03:24.634 --> 01:03:35.684
[SPEAKER_00]: It's important to keep in mind that friction from any source has a way of sneaking up on you despite awareness and planning countless minor incidents that kind you can never really foresee can combine and create friction causing you to fall through your goals.

01:03:36.405 --> 01:03:37.686
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that I

01:03:39.221 --> 01:03:42.842
[SPEAKER_00]: personally, and very good at predicting friction.

01:03:43.782 --> 01:03:47.803
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I know that things are harder than they're going to be.

01:03:47.983 --> 01:03:49.563
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that friction is going to sneak in.

01:03:50.423 --> 01:03:53.924
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like BTF Tony used to say, everything takes a half an hour.

01:03:55.425 --> 01:03:58.765
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you think it's going to take, hey, we'll just take ten minutes to reload these radio.

01:03:58.785 --> 01:04:00.086
[SPEAKER_00]: So now it's going to take a freaking half an hour.

01:04:01.026 --> 01:04:02.006
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything takes a half an hour.

01:04:02.886 --> 01:04:05.207
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just a little element of friction.

01:04:05.227 --> 01:04:06.147
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just universal.

01:04:09.056 --> 01:04:11.857
[SPEAKER_00]: For combat, for a combat leader friction has two important implications.

01:04:11.897 --> 01:04:20.421
[SPEAKER_00]: The Marine Corps Warfighting doctrine teaches that while you should try and minimize self-aduse friction, the greater requirement to fight effectively within the medium of friction.

01:04:20.721 --> 01:04:23.483
[SPEAKER_00]: This means except friction is part of the combat fight.

01:04:25.183 --> 01:04:29.085
[SPEAKER_00]: This means except friction has part of combat and fight effectively despite it.

01:04:29.205 --> 01:04:30.066
[SPEAKER_00]: That's really good.

01:04:30.626 --> 01:04:31.226
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's what I...

01:04:34.031 --> 01:04:34.752
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me pretty this way.

01:04:34.872 --> 01:04:38.595
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not often surprised when things don't go like perfectly, you know what I mean?

01:04:39.015 --> 01:04:40.556
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not like, oh my god, what happened?

01:04:40.576 --> 01:04:42.298
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm like, oh, okay, I get it.

01:04:42.318 --> 01:04:43.559
[SPEAKER_00]: That's friction.

01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:44.719
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that little thing went wrong.

01:04:44.860 --> 01:04:46.000
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we took longer than we expected.

01:04:46.021 --> 01:04:47.782
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the people didn't show up.

01:04:47.942 --> 01:04:50.404
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the thing went, yeah, I'm like used to that.

01:04:53.366 --> 01:04:56.729
[SPEAKER_00]: Overcoming friction requires will.

01:04:58.170 --> 01:05:00.352
[SPEAKER_00]: Learn to prevail through your persistent strength.

01:05:01.817 --> 01:05:03.338
[SPEAKER_00]: of mind and spirit.

01:05:03.918 --> 01:05:08.400
[SPEAKER_00]: It helps to remember that friction affects both you and your enemy in combat as if it's good or not.

01:05:08.781 --> 01:05:09.661
[SPEAKER_00]: The enemy is cold too.

01:05:10.742 --> 01:05:11.382
[SPEAKER_00]: The enemy is hot.

01:05:12.482 --> 01:05:13.223
[SPEAKER_00]: The enemy is tired.

01:05:13.983 --> 01:05:21.047
[SPEAKER_00]: So while you strive to overcome the effects of friction, you must attempt to raise your enemy's friction to a level that destroys his will and ability to fight.

01:05:22.131 --> 01:05:26.977
[SPEAKER_00]: If you can operate at a higher tempo than your enemy, despite friction, you'll be victorious.

01:05:27.518 --> 01:05:28.179
[SPEAKER_00]: Brian Stan.

01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:31.603
[SPEAKER_00]: Brian Stan was hyped on freaking tempo, dude.

01:05:32.264 --> 01:05:33.125
[SPEAKER_00]: Operational tempo.

01:05:34.387 --> 01:05:37.771
[SPEAKER_00]: That's where he was a full support of operational tempo.

01:05:38.730 --> 01:05:46.957
[SPEAKER_00]: To generate and maintain a high tempo within an environment of friction, you must control subordinates by using mission orders.

01:05:47.137 --> 01:05:50.159
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is when we get into a very important part from a leadership perspective.

01:05:50.740 --> 01:06:03.630
[SPEAKER_00]: Mission orders, the way that they use that term in the Marine Corps, out in the military, out large is like, this is when you tell someone what the mission is, what the purpose is, what the commander's intent is, not like, hey, I need you to do this specific thing.

01:06:03.670 --> 01:06:04.170
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't say that.

01:06:04.551 --> 01:06:06.833
[SPEAKER_00]: You say, this is where we want to get to, get us there.

01:06:08.743 --> 01:06:19.006
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's actually a really good example of like, instead of trying to give someone freaking street by street directions to get somewhere.

01:06:20.047 --> 01:06:22.387
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead, you just say, hey, you're going to head north.

01:06:23.268 --> 01:06:24.448
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're going to look for this landmark.

01:06:24.468 --> 01:06:29.330
[SPEAKER_00]: And when you see this landmark go, just a much more, I don't care what route you take to get there.

01:06:29.350 --> 01:06:31.390
[SPEAKER_00]: And then that matters to me.

01:06:31.970 --> 01:06:33.051
[SPEAKER_00]: But here's where you need to get to.

01:06:33.631 --> 01:06:34.231
[SPEAKER_00]: You can figure it out.

01:06:34.731 --> 01:06:35.632
[SPEAKER_00]: Can use GPS.

01:06:35.692 --> 01:06:36.632
[SPEAKER_00]: You can use the freaking

01:06:37.113 --> 01:06:40.804
[SPEAKER_00]: mapping compass, you can use the Thomas Road Maps or whatever.

01:06:40.825 --> 01:06:41.667
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember those old things?

01:06:41.888 --> 01:06:43.192
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably using for the moving company.

01:06:45.032 --> 01:06:45.472
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no.

01:06:46.433 --> 01:06:58.095
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what they're saying here is that to avoid friction, you need to high tempo in order to have an high tempo, you've got to give people mission type orders.

01:06:58.715 --> 01:07:02.896
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is, this is your task, this is your purpose, this is my intent, go make it happen.

01:07:03.757 --> 01:07:09.798
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you will see leaders use detail orders to closely control subordinates in an effort to eliminate friction.

01:07:10.478 --> 01:07:16.002
[SPEAKER_00]: which means they're focusing inward, rather than take friction and stride historically, however, this is seldom worked.

01:07:16.422 --> 01:07:23.267
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's called a little something called centralized command, which does not work.

01:07:24.815 --> 01:07:29.498
[SPEAKER_00]: In the face of friction, your most important challenge is to maintain focus on your mission.

01:07:30.499 --> 01:07:35.362
[SPEAKER_00]: Friction generates constant and urgent pressure to lay your mission aside.

01:07:35.442 --> 01:07:37.623
[SPEAKER_00]: This is echoed Charles talking about distractions.

01:07:38.404 --> 01:07:40.325
[SPEAKER_00]: Casualties demand your immediate attention.

01:07:40.745 --> 01:07:42.046
[SPEAKER_00]: Communications break down.

01:07:42.386 --> 01:07:46.989
[SPEAKER_00]: Your neighboring unit, you told would be what attack has not done so.

01:07:47.250 --> 01:07:48.751
[SPEAKER_00]: Your key subordinate leaders have just been killed.

01:07:48.771 --> 01:07:50.352
[SPEAKER_00]: These are all little points of frictions.

01:07:50.772 --> 01:07:52.233
[SPEAKER_00]: All these distractions

01:07:53.773 --> 01:07:58.659
[SPEAKER_00]: And more, we'll press upon you, forcing you to lay aside the mission.

01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:01.662
[SPEAKER_00]: This challenge is your strength of will.

01:08:02.583 --> 01:08:08.730
[SPEAKER_00]: You must be strong enough to keep yourself and your unit focused on the mission despite the pressure to do otherwise.

01:08:08.750 --> 01:08:12.134
[SPEAKER_00]: So there it is, echo Charles right in line with the Marine Corps.

01:08:13.393 --> 01:08:28.386
[SPEAKER_02]: these distractions and we'll uh you got jammed up by a lot of distractions back in the day were we doing better now yeah big time because of understanding that well and the the real put it this way that the premise that kind of was

01:08:30.187 --> 01:08:51.092
[SPEAKER_02]: furthermore we'll say was you'd be surprised what kind of forms distraction can come in so a lot of times it's like comfort you know comfort is like a distraction yeah or it is a distraction or like some kind of relief or you know I don't know pleasure like there's a lot of distractions

01:08:52.693 --> 01:08:56.517
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, this obvious one's like, you know, TV or I don't know.

01:08:56.577 --> 01:09:03.163
[SPEAKER_02]: If you have a goal or whatever, but like they have, uh, there's like an expression what's called a shiny object syndrome.

01:09:03.183 --> 01:09:04.264
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like that kind of stuff.

01:09:04.404 --> 01:09:08.408
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people, there's a kids movie that has like a thing that chases the squirrel all the time.

01:09:10.290 --> 01:09:13.273
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're not familiar with this kids work kids movie squirrel.

01:09:14.391 --> 01:09:15.251
[SPEAKER_00]: Here people say that now.

01:09:15.411 --> 01:09:17.352
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the, it's the new shiny object is.

01:09:17.392 --> 01:09:17.912
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, squirrel.

01:09:18.192 --> 01:09:18.672
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

01:09:19.252 --> 01:09:20.193
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all distractions.

01:09:21.313 --> 01:09:32.496
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but yeah, if you can, I would almost argue that a lot of time, most of the time, people don't get to where they want to go because of some sort of discharge.

01:09:32.536 --> 01:09:32.676
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:09:34.057 --> 01:09:34.277
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:09:34.497 --> 01:09:38.098
[SPEAKER_00]: That's certainly very plays a huge part.

01:09:38.278 --> 01:09:38.478
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:09:39.358 --> 01:09:41.459
[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes the distractions like it's here.

01:09:41.479 --> 01:09:43.999
[SPEAKER_00]: It says your key subordinate leader has just been killed.

01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:45.400
[SPEAKER_00]: It's called that a distraction.

01:09:46.080 --> 01:09:46.480
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

01:09:46.500 --> 01:09:47.500
[SPEAKER_00]: Which is pretty psycho.

01:09:48.500 --> 01:09:51.181
[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, you got to accomplish the mission.

01:09:51.701 --> 01:09:59.583
[SPEAKER_00]: And you got to assume that if you don't accomplish the mission, it's not only going to be your subordinate leader that gets killed.

01:09:59.603 --> 01:10:00.903
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to get across that airfield.

01:10:00.923 --> 01:10:06.484
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to seize that high ground or whatever that thing is if you don't do it, you're going to lose a lot more than just your subordinate leader.

01:10:07.505 --> 01:10:08.705
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can't get distracted.

01:10:10.145 --> 01:10:13.227
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, if you're paying attention to the things that distract you, that's a huge help.

01:10:13.547 --> 01:10:13.827
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.

01:10:13.847 --> 01:10:15.607
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of people being distracted, they don't even know it.

01:10:15.988 --> 01:10:16.288
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

01:10:16.408 --> 01:10:17.568
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, it's going down.

01:10:18.729 --> 01:10:20.709
[SPEAKER_02]: Tradition can be a distraction.

01:10:20.909 --> 01:10:21.150
[SPEAKER_00]: True.

01:10:22.610 --> 01:10:24.291
[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty much the way we've always done it.

01:10:24.371 --> 01:10:25.351
[SPEAKER_00]: Just keep doing it this way.

01:10:25.411 --> 01:10:26.912
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, big time.

01:10:27.592 --> 01:10:30.193
[SPEAKER_02]: Or you're, you're trying to, I don't know.

01:10:30.753 --> 01:10:32.933
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you're training, like, cut down, trying to make way.

01:10:33.053 --> 01:10:35.814
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to lose weight, trying to reach a certain, like, weight physically.

01:10:35.854 --> 01:10:40.775
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, I feel like that's, like, the obvious mission that a lot of people are on, right?

01:10:42.255 --> 01:10:46.276
[SPEAKER_02]: But no, but, oh, Christmas dinner, seems saying, it's the tradition.

01:10:46.296 --> 01:10:46.616
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

01:10:46.636 --> 01:10:46.736
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01:10:46.756 --> 01:10:46.856
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01:10:46.876 --> 01:10:46.956
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01:11:00.944 --> 01:11:02.765
[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta impose your will, right?

01:11:03.205 --> 01:11:07.926
[SPEAKER_00]: So the leader's will in an effort to keep your unit fighting and focused on its mission.

01:11:08.386 --> 01:11:12.548
[SPEAKER_00]: Your own will, the will of the leader is the single most important factor.

01:11:13.128 --> 01:11:15.529
[SPEAKER_00]: Being a leader requires great strength of will.

01:11:15.629 --> 01:11:17.509
[SPEAKER_00]: Marine sense their leader's strength of will.

01:11:17.809 --> 01:11:21.371
[SPEAKER_00]: If your will is weak, your Marines will yield easily to fear and stress.

01:11:21.711 --> 01:11:28.733
[SPEAKER_00]: If your will is strong, it will instill and strengthen courage and determination in your men.

01:11:32.427 --> 01:11:36.813
[SPEAKER_00]: You can close this out, close out this section because there's more in this book.

01:11:36.833 --> 01:11:41.559
[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of drifted into some things that I didn't think would be as pertinent for our people.

01:11:41.579 --> 01:11:48.288
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to close this out the story from the Korean War and it says, Captain Robert H. Barrow.

01:11:49.529 --> 01:11:56.113
[SPEAKER_00]: Commanding Officer Company A. First Battalion First Marines provides a powerful picture of strength of will and combat in battle at best.

01:11:56.294 --> 01:12:05.859
[SPEAKER_00]: SLA Marshal described Barrow's exceptional leadership during the First Marine Division's legendary Mark March to the Sea from the chosen reservoir in December,

01:12:08.659 --> 01:12:14.120
[SPEAKER_00]: At dark, on eight December, the snowfall ceased and the cold intensified.

01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:23.462
[SPEAKER_00]: Down along the canyon, the canyon road near the watergate, a brisk wind was piling on the drifts as high as a man's head.

01:12:24.082 --> 01:12:31.944
[SPEAKER_00]: At the battalion C.P., which was partly sheltered by the canyon wall, the thermometer read, thirty degrees below zero.

01:12:33.867 --> 01:12:51.920
[SPEAKER_00]: up on the wind swept cracks were able company was clearing Chinese dead from the bunkers to make room for its own ranks and at the same time preparing to evacuate its own casualties down the ice slopes the mountain it must have been a touch colder than that though there was no reading of the temperature.

01:12:54.114 --> 01:12:56.214
[SPEAKER_00]: all the batteries had frozen.

01:12:57.175 --> 01:12:58.295
[SPEAKER_00]: Weapons were stiffening.

01:12:59.215 --> 01:13:03.876
[SPEAKER_00]: The camp longs since had run out of water because of the freezing of cantines.

01:13:04.336 --> 01:13:10.077
[SPEAKER_00]: To ease their thirst, the men ate snow and seemed to thrive on it, but many of the problems raised by the weather.

01:13:11.337 --> 01:13:23.379
[SPEAKER_00]: But of the many problems raised by the weather, the most severe one was getting an average man to observe what the field manuals so easily described as a common sense precaution.

01:13:25.535 --> 01:13:52.893
[SPEAKER_00]: For example, prior to marching from Chin Hong Ni, Captain Barrow of Abel, had made certain that each of his men carried two spare pairs of socks, but that safeguard did not of itself ensure his force through the men with the feet sweated from the laborers of the day were all at the point to becoming frostbite casualties by the hour of the Bivalak.

01:13:54.993 --> 01:14:03.397
[SPEAKER_00]: Captain Barrow continues quote, I learned that night that only leadership will save men under winter conditions.

01:14:04.177 --> 01:14:07.498
[SPEAKER_00]: It's easy to say that men should change socks.

01:14:09.159 --> 01:14:10.600
[SPEAKER_00]: Getting it done is another matter.

01:14:11.280 --> 01:14:16.082
[SPEAKER_00]: Bootlaces become iced over during prolonged engagements and snowdrips.

01:14:16.622 --> 01:14:18.883
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a fight to get a boot off the foot.

01:14:19.143 --> 01:14:22.645
[SPEAKER_00]: When a man removes his gloves to struggle with the laces, it seems

01:14:23.205 --> 01:14:27.189
[SPEAKER_00]: to him that his hands are freezing, his impulses all against it.

01:14:29.050 --> 01:14:40.860
[SPEAKER_00]: So I found it necessary to do this by order, staying with the individual until they had changed, then making them get up and move to restore the circulation end quote.

01:14:43.512 --> 01:14:47.534
[SPEAKER_00]: that process, simple and telling, consumed hours.

01:14:48.515 --> 01:14:54.318
[SPEAKER_00]: By the time Barrow was satisfied that his command was relatively snug, it was wearing on toward midnight.

01:14:55.498 --> 01:15:13.208
[SPEAKER_00]: Right then, his perimeter was hit by a counterattack, an enemy force in Paltune, strength plus striking along the same ridge line from Hill ten eighty one in approximately the same formation, which Barrow had used during the afternoon.

01:15:15.738 --> 01:15:25.823
[SPEAKER_00]: All that needs to be told about this small action is summed up in Barrow's brief radio report to Lieutenant Colonel Schmuck, quote, they hit us.

01:15:27.483 --> 01:15:28.444
[SPEAKER_00]: We killed them all.

01:15:33.879 --> 01:15:35.261
[SPEAKER_00]: So, there you have it.

01:15:36.582 --> 01:15:40.046
[SPEAKER_00]: There is going to be resistance, right?

01:15:41.667 --> 01:15:42.728
[SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be friction.

01:15:43.629 --> 01:15:55.662
[SPEAKER_00]: And the most important force in those scenarios, the force that we utilize to overcome fear, to overcome inertia, to overcome friction, to overcome resistance is the human will.

01:15:59.657 --> 01:16:05.778
[SPEAKER_00]: And we have to remember that a leader can impose his will, or if he's not careful, he can impose his weakness.

01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:10.959
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it is very important.

01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:12.239
[SPEAKER_00]: Critically important.

01:16:13.059 --> 01:16:19.200
[SPEAKER_00]: Perhaps for most people listening most important to remember that you are your own leader.

01:16:21.541 --> 01:16:22.621
[SPEAKER_00]: You are the soldiers.

01:16:23.641 --> 01:16:25.181
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're the captain.

01:16:25.241 --> 01:16:26.742
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're the battalion commander.

01:16:26.782 --> 01:16:28.062
[SPEAKER_00]: You're even the freaking general.

01:16:30.823 --> 01:16:33.044
[SPEAKER_00]: You are in charge of what you do.

01:16:33.404 --> 01:16:36.066
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to make the calls and you are going to resist you.

01:16:39.528 --> 01:16:40.268
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can't do that.

01:16:42.249 --> 01:16:50.013
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't allow the prisoners, the inmates to run the prison, right?

01:16:50.633 --> 01:16:51.033
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't.

01:16:51.354 --> 01:16:53.675
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to impose your will on yourself.

01:16:55.842 --> 01:17:01.781
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't let your own troops yourself, don't let yourself down the easy path.

01:17:05.258 --> 01:17:05.858
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't do that.

01:17:07.059 --> 01:17:08.059
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to take the heart path.

01:17:08.499 --> 01:17:17.541
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to force yourself to take off your gloves and untie your frozen laces and change socks so that your feet don't become frostbite.

01:17:17.782 --> 01:17:23.703
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to force yourself to get up in the morning and go do physical activity so that you don't become weak.

01:17:25.064 --> 01:17:29.905
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to force yourself to put away the donuts and eat something healthy.

01:17:32.883 --> 01:17:34.064
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to impose your will.

01:17:34.304 --> 01:17:37.365
[SPEAKER_00]: That is where the leaders will come into play every single day.

01:17:37.405 --> 01:17:38.266
[SPEAKER_00]: It's in your own head.

01:17:42.068 --> 01:17:42.928
[SPEAKER_00]: So keep that in mind.

01:17:42.948 --> 01:17:49.932
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where we got and speaking of will and speaking of discipline.

01:17:49.952 --> 01:18:01.438
[SPEAKER_00]: We need to impose discipline ourselves, impose our own will every day, training, fighting, running, lifting,

01:18:03.372 --> 01:18:06.133
[SPEAKER_00]: Stretching, reading, writing.

01:18:06.273 --> 01:18:07.133
[SPEAKER_00]: Just gotta be doing everything.

01:18:07.894 --> 01:18:10.835
[SPEAKER_00]: When you're doing that, you're gonna need fuel.

01:18:11.475 --> 01:18:12.855
[SPEAKER_00]: We recommend the best fuel, actually.

01:18:13.495 --> 01:18:14.476
[SPEAKER_00]: We recommend you try out.

01:18:15.516 --> 01:18:16.056
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01:18:16.396 --> 01:18:16.837
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, check it out.

01:18:17.157 --> 01:18:17.917
[SPEAKER_00]: Jockelfield.com.

01:18:18.177 --> 01:18:19.377
[SPEAKER_00]: We got the real goods there.

01:18:20.778 --> 01:18:22.879
[SPEAKER_00]: We got deals there on jockelfield.com.

01:18:22.919 --> 01:18:26.200
[SPEAKER_00]: We got, we got free shipping over your nine, nine bucks on jockelfield.com.

01:18:27.180 --> 01:18:31.401
[SPEAKER_00]: We got subscriptions that get you up to twenty, twenty percent off and bunch of free gifts there.

01:18:31.601 --> 01:18:31.902
[SPEAKER_00]: So we got it.

01:18:31.922 --> 01:18:33.022
[SPEAKER_00]: We're trying to take care of you.

01:18:34.595 --> 01:18:36.456
[SPEAKER_00]: Trying to take care of our core people, right?

01:18:36.917 --> 01:18:37.437
[SPEAKER_00]: The troopers.

01:18:37.637 --> 01:18:38.218
[SPEAKER_00]: That are out there.

01:18:38.598 --> 01:18:39.398
[SPEAKER_00]: A chocolate field.com.

01:18:39.659 --> 01:18:42.941
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're one of the troopers there, we will give you, we'll give you the goods.

01:18:44.782 --> 01:18:45.623
[SPEAKER_00]: So check that out.

01:18:45.683 --> 01:18:46.484
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we've got there.

01:18:46.504 --> 01:18:47.004
[SPEAKER_00]: We got protein.

01:18:47.044 --> 01:18:50.586
[SPEAKER_00]: I just drank a protein to freaking tasty, by the way.

01:18:51.267 --> 01:18:52.328
[SPEAKER_00]: We drank some milk.

01:18:52.828 --> 01:18:57.231
[SPEAKER_00]: I also had, so today I've only partaken in chocolate fuel products.

01:18:58.432 --> 01:19:00.974
[SPEAKER_00]: A hydrate, a go.

01:19:03.140 --> 01:19:27.290
[SPEAKER_00]: a mulk and I have another go that's kind of like we're sipping through because we have because it tastes good and that's what we're doing and we got what I have this morning during warfare time war super curl this morning that's every morning for me I'm a little nuts because I have three super curl at night three super curl in the morning three during warfare at night three strength work for the morning and I have time for every morning

01:19:27.782 --> 01:19:30.265
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a mega dose for sure.

01:19:30.285 --> 01:19:33.027
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is, but man, here I am.

01:19:33.148 --> 01:19:34.929
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you are getting after it.

01:19:35.070 --> 01:19:35.690
[SPEAKER_00]: You mean?

01:19:35.830 --> 01:19:36.771
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do.

01:19:37.132 --> 01:19:39.594
[SPEAKER_00]: So do you might want to check all that stuff out?

01:19:39.875 --> 01:19:42.097
[SPEAKER_00]: If I go, if I go on a trip, I bring some of that cold war.

01:19:42.217 --> 01:19:43.278
[SPEAKER_00]: So you got some cold war over there.

01:19:43.298 --> 01:19:44.960
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you partaking a little cold war right now?

01:19:46.005 --> 01:19:49.707
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I brought it for a video, but the answer is still yes, of course.

01:19:50.427 --> 01:19:58.112
[SPEAKER_00]: When I go somewhere and have to shake hands with one thousand people and have to ride on four different airplanes filled with disease-ridden people.

01:19:58.352 --> 01:19:59.153
[SPEAKER_00]: Cold War all day.

01:19:59.173 --> 01:19:59.713
[SPEAKER_00]: Cold War all day.

01:19:59.773 --> 01:20:01.154
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where we got.

01:20:01.194 --> 01:20:02.435
[SPEAKER_00]: Go to jockelfield.com to check it out.

01:20:02.495 --> 01:20:06.438
[SPEAKER_00]: Or you can go to Walmart, Walmart, Vitamin Shop, GNC's Military Commissaries, A.F.

01:20:06.458 --> 01:20:10.240
[SPEAKER_00]: He's Haniford, Dashdoors, WakeFern, Shop right, H.E.B.

01:20:10.280 --> 01:20:11.081
[SPEAKER_00]: Down in Tayhouse.

01:20:12.533 --> 01:20:19.695
[SPEAKER_00]: Laf was pointing out to me that sometimes you've got to look around a little bit because it might not be exactly, you might not find like go with the energy drinks.

01:20:20.135 --> 01:20:22.056
[SPEAKER_00]: You might not find, it might be in a different section.

01:20:22.336 --> 01:20:23.296
[SPEAKER_00]: You can ask somebody, H.E.B.

01:20:23.336 --> 01:20:23.856
[SPEAKER_00]: Supercool.

01:20:24.036 --> 01:20:24.636
[SPEAKER_00]: Same with Meyer.

01:20:24.836 --> 01:20:36.159
[SPEAKER_00]: If you've got to ask somebody, if you've got to ask somebody with wagons, Harris, T.D., Publix, like all these regional freaking and places that are kind of the place to go in their various neighborhoods.

01:20:37.100 --> 01:20:41.281
[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't see it where you might expect to see it, just ask somebody else pointed out where it is.

01:20:42.021 --> 01:20:43.882
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we've also got a lifetime fitness shields.

01:20:44.202 --> 01:20:48.023
[SPEAKER_00]: And then a bunch of little gyms, little gyms, big gyms, victory MMA and fitness.

01:20:48.043 --> 01:20:49.464
[SPEAKER_00]: We got chocolate fuel, a lot of it.

01:20:50.024 --> 01:20:52.725
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a good real nice little situation there.

01:20:53.325 --> 01:21:06.630
[SPEAKER_00]: If you need it in your small gym or in your business or your chiropractor and your hair salon or in your massage office or your cold plunge facility or your, one of the,

01:21:07.110 --> 01:21:13.211
[SPEAKER_00]: Gymnastics, joint, uh, dental, dental office, like you don't want your kids drinking sugar?

01:21:13.231 --> 01:21:13.271
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:21:14.071 --> 01:21:14.251
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:21:14.751 --> 01:21:21.212
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you, if you got any kind of business and you want to give them the goods, email JfSales of chocolate field.com, we got your covered.

01:21:21.573 --> 01:21:33.175
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, if you want communist free clothing, go to originusa.com and get clothing that is made without, it's a hundred percent communist free.

01:21:33.575 --> 01:21:35.655
[SPEAKER_00]: No communism can be detected at all.

01:21:36.990 --> 01:21:40.171
[SPEAKER_00]: We are communist free clothing built by freedom.

01:21:41.071 --> 01:21:42.012
[SPEAKER_00]: OriginUSA.com.

01:21:42.272 --> 01:21:43.752
[SPEAKER_00]: We got workout clothes.

01:21:44.032 --> 01:21:45.153
[SPEAKER_00]: We got hunt clothes.

01:21:45.353 --> 01:21:46.513
[SPEAKER_00]: We got jujitsu clothes.

01:21:47.013 --> 01:21:51.755
[SPEAKER_00]: We got jeans just to wear when you're taking your wife out to dinner.

01:21:51.795 --> 01:21:55.136
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, there's a female jeans that are slightly in the workshop.

01:21:55.296 --> 01:21:55.556
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?

01:21:55.596 --> 01:21:56.176
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:21:56.457 --> 01:21:58.937
[SPEAKER_00]: Like exclusive female, like women's jeans.

01:21:58.957 --> 01:22:01.758
[SPEAKER_00]: That women's jeans, yeah, women's jeans.

01:22:01.958 --> 01:22:03.939
[SPEAKER_00]: I got that habit from the military.

01:22:04.259 --> 01:22:05.119
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like the most.

01:22:07.500 --> 01:22:09.582
[SPEAKER_00]: way to describe a female or a female.

01:22:09.942 --> 01:22:14.064
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't play any gray areas in the middle.

01:22:14.104 --> 01:22:15.245
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, male female.

01:22:15.265 --> 01:22:17.046
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are just two things we're talking about here.

01:22:17.787 --> 01:22:18.647
[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes that's still.

01:22:18.747 --> 01:22:20.368
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say like a lady or women's.

01:22:20.388 --> 01:22:23.050
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you were easily as a civilian, just like, oh, women's.

01:22:23.250 --> 01:22:23.490
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:22:23.710 --> 01:22:24.771
[SPEAKER_00]: But no, I was thinking female.

01:22:24.991 --> 01:22:25.772
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:22:26.032 --> 01:22:30.374
[SPEAKER_02]: I figure when you go to like one of these stores, you know, with fashion items.

01:22:30.875 --> 01:22:31.035
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:22:31.095 --> 01:22:32.336
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to women's section.

01:22:32.356 --> 01:22:32.496
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:22:32.536 --> 01:22:33.696
[SPEAKER_00]: Not the female section.

01:22:33.897 --> 01:22:35.438
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you go, if you go to the

01:22:36.418 --> 01:22:38.379
[SPEAKER_00]: Navy exchanging out of military uniforms?

01:22:38.820 --> 01:22:39.560
[SPEAKER_00]: There's mail in female.

01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:41.061
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure I don't quote me on that.

01:22:41.521 --> 01:22:42.762
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like that's the way it should be.

01:22:43.182 --> 01:22:43.522
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel it.

01:22:43.602 --> 01:22:45.584
[SPEAKER_00]: But females, women.

01:22:46.064 --> 01:22:46.264
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

01:22:46.304 --> 01:22:47.645
[SPEAKER_00]: We will have you covered in the future.

01:22:48.565 --> 01:22:53.969
[SPEAKER_00]: But go to originalUSH.com and get yourself some communist-free clothing.

01:22:54.489 --> 01:22:56.250
[SPEAKER_00]: No communism whatsoever.

01:22:56.270 --> 01:23:00.473
[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.

01:23:00.853 --> 01:23:01.753
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, speaking of clothing.

01:23:02.914 --> 01:23:03.695
[SPEAKER_02]: JoccoStore.com.

01:23:05.064 --> 01:23:09.647
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see like T-shirts, some hats on there, some hoodies and stuff, but it's discipline equals freedom.

01:23:10.227 --> 01:23:14.951
[SPEAKER_02]: Same saying, some were representing on this path that we're all on by the way, a hundred percent.

01:23:15.031 --> 01:23:15.871
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, a big time.

01:23:16.111 --> 01:23:19.393
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, discipline goes freedom, good, get after it.

01:23:20.094 --> 01:23:21.155
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna get after it right now.

01:23:21.695 --> 01:23:25.297
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, these various ideas while we're on the path, you know, you can represent.

01:23:26.058 --> 01:23:27.078
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a thing called a short locker.

01:23:27.179 --> 01:23:27.999
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a new design.

01:23:28.780 --> 01:23:29.880
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, every month.

01:23:31.061 --> 01:23:34.763
[SPEAKER_02]: People seem to like that a little bit outside the box as far as the creativity goes.

01:23:35.383 --> 01:23:37.043
[SPEAKER_02]: I think anyway, but yeah people seem to like that.

01:23:37.063 --> 01:23:38.084
[SPEAKER_02]: So check that that one out.

01:23:38.164 --> 01:23:39.164
[SPEAKER_02]: It's on jockelstore.com.

01:23:39.384 --> 01:23:42.926
[SPEAKER_02]: We have new stuff coming out over the next two weeks.

01:23:44.426 --> 01:23:45.347
[SPEAKER_02]: So be on the lookout for that.

01:23:45.547 --> 01:23:49.689
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you want to be updated on new stuff in the future, I don't spam nobody.

01:23:49.729 --> 01:23:51.609
[SPEAKER_02]: Just put your sign up for the email list.

01:23:51.629 --> 01:23:53.830
[SPEAKER_02]: You sign up on the little thing on the form.

01:23:53.930 --> 01:23:54.791
[SPEAKER_00]: Can we expect spam?

01:23:55.631 --> 01:23:56.732
[SPEAKER_02]: Do not expect spam.

01:23:57.552 --> 01:24:00.314
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, if you're into spam emails or whatever, sorry about it.

01:24:00.374 --> 01:24:04.136
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have anything for you, but if you want to be updated, maybe even some discount.

01:24:05.076 --> 01:24:06.717
[SPEAKER_02]: Down for a little discount from time to time.

01:24:06.797 --> 01:24:09.599
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, but your email in there, I'll hit all the hook you up there.

01:24:09.739 --> 01:24:11.300
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, yes, jocostor.com.

01:24:12.900 --> 01:24:15.602
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, primalbeef.com.

01:24:15.802 --> 01:24:17.163
[SPEAKER_00]: Call another craft beef.com.

01:24:17.223 --> 01:24:18.303
[SPEAKER_00]: You know you need to stake.

01:24:18.984 --> 01:24:20.585
[SPEAKER_00]: You need all beef hot dogs.

01:24:20.805 --> 01:24:23.166
[SPEAKER_00]: You need ground beef.

01:24:23.886 --> 01:24:24.847
[SPEAKER_00]: Get the good stuff.

01:24:27.264 --> 01:24:28.186
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, it's great stuff.

01:24:28.526 --> 01:24:33.053
[SPEAKER_00]: I just had a Colorado craft beef rib eye last night.

01:24:33.534 --> 01:24:34.675
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's freaking tasty?

01:24:35.477 --> 01:24:42.768
[SPEAKER_00]: That being said, it was a Colorado craft beef rib eye, but I used the Sean glass primal beef methodology for cooking.

01:24:44.690 --> 01:24:45.971
[SPEAKER_00]: Three, three, two, two, one, one.

01:24:45.991 --> 01:24:46.951
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:24:47.551 --> 01:24:48.031
[SPEAKER_00]: Get it done.

01:24:48.571 --> 01:24:49.072
[SPEAKER_00]: Check those out.

01:24:49.212 --> 01:24:50.412
[SPEAKER_00]: Great steak from great people.

01:24:50.612 --> 01:24:51.752
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, subscribe to the podcast.

01:24:51.772 --> 01:24:53.413
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, check out jockownerground.com.

01:24:53.433 --> 01:24:54.693
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, check out our YouTube channels.

01:24:55.093 --> 01:24:55.653
[SPEAKER_00]: Bunch of books.

01:24:56.274 --> 01:24:59.354
[SPEAKER_00]: Next book you need to probably get is called Need to Lead.

01:24:59.454 --> 01:25:01.635
[SPEAKER_00]: By speaking of the Marine Corps, Dave Burke.

01:25:02.335 --> 01:25:02.915
[SPEAKER_00]: Good deal, too.

01:25:02.995 --> 01:25:04.516
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, good deal, Dave Burke.

01:25:05.156 --> 01:25:06.376
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a book, Need to Lead.

01:25:06.836 --> 01:25:07.297
[SPEAKER_00]: I've read it.

01:25:07.957 --> 01:25:09.637
[SPEAKER_00]: I wrote the forward to it, by the way.

01:25:10.077 --> 01:25:11.698
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just over here right in the forward.

01:25:12.698 --> 01:25:13.899
[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's a great book.

01:25:14.219 --> 01:25:21.085
[SPEAKER_00]: Lots of really good information and good angles on things from that aviation perspective.

01:25:22.566 --> 01:25:26.189
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, I've written a bunch of books, including a bunch of kids books, so check those kids books out.

01:25:26.289 --> 01:25:28.751
[SPEAKER_00]: Way of the Warrior Kid, one, two, three, four, and five.

01:25:28.771 --> 01:25:30.313
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a movie coming out.

01:25:31.413 --> 01:25:32.614
[SPEAKER_00]: Starting Chris Pratt.

01:25:32.634 --> 01:25:33.175
[SPEAKER_00]: You ever heard of him?

01:25:33.495 --> 01:25:34.616
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hear.

01:25:34.676 --> 01:25:35.116
[SPEAKER_02]: Great things.

01:25:35.437 --> 01:25:36.738
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you like his acting skills?

01:25:36.758 --> 01:25:37.538
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, of course.

01:25:37.558 --> 01:25:38.379
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you do better than him?

01:25:38.559 --> 01:25:38.839
[SPEAKER_00]: I do.

01:25:38.879 --> 01:25:39.960
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you grade your own acting?

01:25:39.980 --> 01:25:41.742
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you are in the movie way of the Warrior Kid.

01:25:52.592 --> 01:25:52.812
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:25:52.832 --> 01:25:53.453
[SPEAKER_00]: Couldn't have done it well.

01:25:53.473 --> 01:25:55.514
[SPEAKER_00]: What about when you started in your movie?

01:25:55.674 --> 01:25:56.135
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.

01:25:56.315 --> 01:25:57.055
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I was born.

01:25:57.556 --> 01:25:59.037
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought your acting was better than that.

01:25:59.337 --> 01:26:00.037
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that was pretty good.

01:26:00.077 --> 01:26:00.658
[SPEAKER_00]: I just went five.

01:26:00.918 --> 01:26:01.739
[SPEAKER_00]: Not that was pretty good.

01:26:02.079 --> 01:26:02.539
[SPEAKER_02]: Put it this way.

01:26:02.599 --> 01:26:06.442
[SPEAKER_02]: I had my moments of maybe five or six, but it's a generally speaking.

01:26:06.702 --> 01:26:07.563
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd have to rewatch it.

01:26:07.643 --> 01:26:08.623
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a learning experience.

01:26:08.643 --> 01:26:09.704
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd have to rewatch it.

01:26:09.744 --> 01:26:10.185
[SPEAKER_00]: Check it out.

01:26:10.885 --> 01:26:15.228
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyways, we got a bunch of books, kids books, adult books, check them out.

01:26:15.648 --> 01:26:18.911
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, I'm from we solve problems through leadership.

01:26:18.951 --> 01:26:21.433
[SPEAKER_00]: If you have problems in your world, they are leadership problems.

01:26:22.213 --> 01:26:23.895
[SPEAKER_00]: The way that you solve them is through leadership.

01:26:24.235 --> 01:26:28.300
[SPEAKER_00]: We have a bunch of ways to infer this information to you.

01:26:29.081 --> 01:26:32.024
[SPEAKER_00]: The lessons that we learned in combat, you can come to one of our events.

01:26:32.664 --> 01:26:34.226
[SPEAKER_00]: You can attend one of our events.

01:26:35.527 --> 01:26:40.493
[SPEAKER_00]: We have the master down in Florida, December seventh through the night, by the way, these things sell out.

01:26:40.893 --> 01:26:42.074
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything I'm talking about, we'll sell out.

01:26:43.015 --> 01:26:50.083
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to go contact go to arslamfront.com and click on events and you'll see which one you want to go to, the battlefield.

01:26:50.483 --> 01:26:51.845
[SPEAKER_00]: We're actually doing new battlefields.

01:26:52.025 --> 01:26:53.146
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not Gettysburg.

01:26:53.166 --> 01:26:55.669
[SPEAKER_00]: We're doing another Civil War battlefield out on the East Coast.

01:26:56.129 --> 01:26:59.092
[SPEAKER_00]: So fresh look, very cool, very interesting.

01:27:00.253 --> 01:27:16.243
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of kind of awesome when you like you to show up there for the first be like a plank owner for the first one of these and then of course we got the women's assembly down there in San Antonio, Texas September eleven through the first thirteen and also we have a consultancy

01:27:17.787 --> 01:27:25.673
[SPEAKER_00]: We can embed in your business, do an assessment, figure out where the shortfalls are, and help you with your leadership get your entire business turned around and on the right track.

01:27:26.133 --> 01:27:29.616
[SPEAKER_00]: So go to extreme ownership, go to actually on front.com for that.

01:27:29.656 --> 01:27:45.647
[SPEAKER_00]: But then if you want, if you want to have some online training to learn these skills of leadership, go to extremeownership.com, whether you're a frontline individual contributor or whether you're the CEO or chairman of the board of a massive company, there are skills that you need to win.

01:27:46.608 --> 01:27:48.970
[SPEAKER_00]: and extreme ownership.com can teach you those skills.

01:27:49.490 --> 01:27:52.132
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to help servers members active and retired, do you want to help their families?

01:27:52.172 --> 01:27:55.133
[SPEAKER_00]: Gold Star families check out Mark Lee's mom, mom and Lee.

01:27:55.153 --> 01:27:56.734
[SPEAKER_00]: She's got an amazing charity organization.

01:27:56.774 --> 01:28:00.977
[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to donate or you want to get involved, go to America's Mighty Warriors.org.

01:28:02.558 --> 01:28:05.679
[SPEAKER_00]: Also check out Mike of fanks heroes and horses dot org.

01:28:05.979 --> 01:28:15.581
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm gonna try and go they have an event like a like a dinner or something like a big fancy dinner, which fancy for Mike of fank means he's like what are we gonna just?

01:28:16.401 --> 01:28:21.923
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't fire I don't know but but it's nice and try and get up there for that

01:28:23.212 --> 01:28:28.495
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's an horses dot org check it out and then Jimmy May's organization beyond the brotherhood dot org.

01:28:30.036 --> 01:28:33.458
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to connect with us, check out jockel.com or on social media.

01:28:33.758 --> 01:28:34.859
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm at jockel one of the echoes out.

01:28:34.879 --> 01:28:37.180
[SPEAKER_00]: I quote Charles, just don't spend too much time on there.

01:28:37.340 --> 01:28:38.361
[SPEAKER_00]: You got better things to do.

01:28:38.761 --> 01:28:39.181
[SPEAKER_00]: You know it.

01:28:39.381 --> 01:28:39.741
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it.

01:28:41.583 --> 01:28:50.831
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, thanks to the Army Navy Air Force and Marine Corps, holding the wine around the world and leading from the front.

01:28:50.931 --> 01:28:57.637
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, thanks to a police law enforcement firefighters, paramedics, EMTs, dispatchers, correction officers, board patrol secret services, as well as all other first responders.

01:28:58.178 --> 01:29:01.340
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for holding the wine, here at home, to keep us safe.

01:29:02.682 --> 01:29:10.750
[SPEAKER_00]: And for everyone else out there, here's one more quote from Marine Corps doctrinal publication one, MCDP one.

01:29:11.470 --> 01:29:13.853
[SPEAKER_00]: We know it as warfining.

01:29:14.513 --> 01:29:19.338
[SPEAKER_00]: And it says discipline is not just a matter of following orders.

01:29:20.299 --> 01:29:23.682
[SPEAKER_00]: It is a matter of self-control and self-direction.

01:29:24.703 --> 01:29:28.866
[SPEAKER_00]: a willingness to do what is right regardless of the circumstances.

01:29:29.426 --> 01:29:31.287
[SPEAKER_00]: And quote, that's what we have to do.

01:29:31.667 --> 01:29:35.009
[SPEAKER_00]: Self-discipline, self-control, and self-direction.

01:29:36.230 --> 01:29:37.270
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what you're supposed to do.

01:29:38.711 --> 01:29:43.414
[SPEAKER_00]: Regardless of what distractions present themselves, you know what you're supposed to do.

01:29:45.335 --> 01:29:45.856
[SPEAKER_00]: So go do it.

01:29:47.917 --> 01:29:50.398
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's all I've got for tonight on until next time.

01:29:50.498 --> 01:29:51.659
[SPEAKER_00]: This is Echo and Jocco.