Feb. 2, 2026
Jocko Underground: What to do When You're At a Low Point In Life with No Options and Surrounded by Toxicity.
How and when to teach your kids to lead. How to handle confrontations in public. Training advice for a hard goal. I'm at rock-bottom with nothing going for me. Being grateful for your position and job VS. Living up to your potential.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the Jockel underground podcast number 199 and you're with echoed Charles and we just got Done with some due to training.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We back with back victory MMA is now the original victory MMA is now open and new and glorious So the mats were utilized in a big way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so now we are back to the The mental aspect of the game
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[SPEAKER_00]: You, as troopers, have sent us questions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have some answers, some recommendations, some courses of actions at a minimum that you can take to get yourself and keep yourself on the path of justice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's get to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Question number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, very, very useful to not ignore keeping yourself on the pattern.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause once you say all this doesn't play, I mean, I don't need that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, good tip there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm writing because I need advice and don't have anyone else to turn to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your podcast played a major role in changing my life after my daughter was born in 2023, and getting me on the path, including starting to judge it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a two-year-old daughter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Her mother and I have had a volatile relationship from the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Early on, I was wrong and became physical during arguments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Later, she had people come to our home and assault me, resulting in hospitalization, and a year-long protection order that caused me to miss my daughter's early life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've tried to make it work for two years, but now, I believe the relationship is destructive and must end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm 26 living with toxic parents, buried in debt facing possible court again, without a car, and afraid of losing time with my daughter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel trapped and overwhelmed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What guidance would you give me to move forward and take responsibility without collapsing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's not, you just made like a noise of like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, oh no, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do we do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in my mind, I think of the quote of like, Hey, we're surrounded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we know what the enemy is, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where you are, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're just surrounded on all sides.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what you have to do is you have to begin to square your situation away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This means you have to fix your immediate world that you are in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, to start off here with your daughter's mom,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would be professional, don't be emotional, be polite, but you have to make a little bit of distance because you guys have got bad blood, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's bad emotions there, it's not good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to say, hey, listen, I don't want to bother you anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish you the best, you may not even want to verbalize those things, you just start to act this way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you say, hey, I don't want to bother you anymore, we mean you won't bother you, don't you just be like, just start to be more professional, non-emotional,
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[SPEAKER_00]: and create a little bit of distance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then what you have to do is you have to get a job, you have to work hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to get a job, I don't care if you get a job, but when is I work or when is, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you work at when is new work hard, you will move up the chain of command.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you go to Home Depot and you get a job, you work hard, you move up the chain of command.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You start making more money like this will happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't buy anything stupid, save your money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you in order to save money, I hate to say this, you're probably going to have to continue to live with your, what you call your toxic parents.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would just, you know, again, don't be overt about it, but just isolate yourself as much as you can with them, but from them, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't want to get caught up in their toxicity, but you want to live there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go to your room, try and spend time out, you know, don't spend a bunch of time there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Spend job, work and overtime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Spend your time, work and overtime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got 40 hours a week, what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can work 80 hours a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can easily work 80 hours a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get over time, get two jobs, whatever you have to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't spend time in the house, go to their sleep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I sleep from them a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in a little bit of time, you're going to have enough money to get a dirt place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the dirt G place to live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's like rent a room from somebody for a few hundred bucks or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you're going to talk to your daughter, you know, like when you can, I don't know what kind of legal situation you're in with her, whether you're allowed to visit her, but you're going to fall the rules.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to stay positive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No negativity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not because anything negative about her, not going to say anything negative about life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can concentrate on her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, does she care that you don't have money, that you don't have problems or that you have problems that you have this, you don't have a, does she care about anything that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not as much as she cares about the fact that, you know, she's got cramps and this, you know, she's coloring a flower and you can help her color flowers, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you focus on with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You do kid stuff with her, let her world be bright and beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You shelter her from the misery and the darkness of the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where you do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where that's what dads do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Continue your job at Wendy's or Home Depot or whatever you're working.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Find some kind of a trade that you're interested in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Electrician, plumber, welder, carpenter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You find one of those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which one you're interested in?
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[SPEAKER_00]: they're all cool jobs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all very gratifying to wire a place, to put plumbing in a place, to weld something together, to build a house or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then once you figure out which one you're slightly interested in, you find one of those companies that does that and you go and get job there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to take a minimum wage pay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever you're getting paid at Wendy's, you're getting paid at Home Depot, you're going to say, listen, I will do, I will be labor for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do whatever you need me to do for minimum wage and you're going to bust your ass and you're going to keep saving money and you're going to, you know, you're trying to pay off debts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you're going to have enough money yet to pay off debts, learn whatever skill it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Electrician.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to start to learn that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to watch YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to read books about this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be a library, read books about being an electrician.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, you're maintaining a positive relationship with your daughter because that's what we bring to our daughters, positivity and good and light and kids stuff and flowers and rainbows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we bring to our kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our daughters, pure positivity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eventually, you figure out where you what qualifications you need to be on an electrician.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you got to do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you need to do to get that piece of paper, the central electrician?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to go to that school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because you saved your money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you're saving your money for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're continuing to work hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not wasting any money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're continuing to pay your debts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you look up, and in three years, and it's gonna be a long hard three years, but in three years, you're gonna be in a relatively good situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna have a steady job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna have an employer that appreciates you, that you show up early, that you stay late, that you work hard, that you're clean, that you do what you're supposed to do,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna have some money from that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna have a marketable skill cause you went and got that whatever that certification is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna find a place to live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll have bought a $2800 vehicle that's fairly reliable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're now your daughter's five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not too anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, when she's between two, three, four, five, she's not gonna remember a lot of that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I wanna work too worried about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just look, you're a loving dad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You bring the light when you can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But by the time three years from now, she's going to be five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when she'll actually know and she'll remember and appreciate your interactions with her and then you're slowly with the permission of her mom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to get a little bit more integrated with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're going to continue to go again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be always be professional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're in a business relationship with her mom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where you are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Professional business relationship with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No emotions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the Jocco Underground podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the Jockel underground podcast number 199 and you're with echoed Charles and we just got Done with some due to training.
00:08.521 --> 00:19.333
[SPEAKER_00]: We back with back victory MMA is now the original victory MMA is now open and new and glorious So the mats were utilized in a big way.
00:19.353 --> 00:25.380
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so now we are back to the The mental aspect of the game
00:26.390 --> 00:28.553
[SPEAKER_00]: You, as troopers, have sent us questions.
00:29.274 --> 00:40.768
[SPEAKER_00]: We have some answers, some recommendations, some courses of actions at a minimum that you can take to get yourself and keep yourself on the path of justice.
00:41.409 --> 00:42.170
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's get to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Question number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, very, very useful to not ignore keeping yourself on the pattern.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause once you say all this doesn't play, I mean, I don't need that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, good tip there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm writing because I need advice and don't have anyone else to turn to.
00:59.898 --> 01:06.649
[SPEAKER_01]: Your podcast played a major role in changing my life after my daughter was born in 2023, and getting me on the path, including starting to judge it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a two-year-old daughter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Her mother and I have had a volatile relationship from the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Early on, I was wrong and became physical during arguments.
01:18.128 --> 01:27.314
[SPEAKER_01]: Later, she had people come to our home and assault me, resulting in hospitalization, and a year-long protection order that caused me to miss my daughter's early life.
01:27.735 --> 01:33.150
[SPEAKER_01]: We've tried to make it work for two years, but now, I believe the relationship is destructive and must end.
01:33.130 --> 01:42.144
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm 26 living with toxic parents, buried in debt facing possible court again, without a car, and afraid of losing time with my daughter.
01:42.525 --> 01:43.686
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel trapped and overwhelmed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What guidance would you give me to move forward and take responsibility without collapsing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's not, you just made like a noise of like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, oh no, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do we do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in my mind, I think of the quote of like, Hey, we're surrounded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we know what the enemy is, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where you are, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're just surrounded on all sides.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what you have to do is you have to begin to square your situation away.
02:24.582 --> 02:29.037
[SPEAKER_00]: This means you have to fix your immediate world that you are in.
02:29.418 --> 02:34.896
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, to start off here with your daughter's mom,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would be professional, don't be emotional, be polite, but you have to make a little bit of distance because you guys have got bad blood, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's bad emotions there, it's not good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to say, hey, listen, I don't want to bother you anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish you the best, you may not even want to verbalize those things, you just start to act this way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you say, hey, I don't want to bother you anymore, we mean you won't bother you, don't you just be like, just start to be more professional, non-emotional,
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[SPEAKER_00]: and create a little bit of distance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then what you have to do is you have to get a job, you have to work hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to get a job, I don't care if you get a job, but when is I work or when is, right?
03:12.811 --> 03:15.276
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you work at when is new work hard, you will move up the chain of command.
03:15.296 --> 03:18.241
[SPEAKER_00]: If you go to Home Depot and you get a job, you work hard, you move up the chain of command.
03:18.702 --> 03:20.465
[SPEAKER_00]: You start making more money like this will happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't buy anything stupid, save your money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you in order to save money, I hate to say this, you're probably going to have to continue to live with your, what you call your toxic parents.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would just, you know, again, don't be overt about it, but just isolate yourself as much as you can with them, but from them, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't want to get caught up in their toxicity, but you want to live there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go to your room, try and spend time out, you know, don't spend a bunch of time there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Spend job, work and overtime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Spend your time, work and overtime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got 40 hours a week, what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can work 80 hours a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can easily work 80 hours a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get over time, get two jobs, whatever you have to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't spend time in the house, go to their sleep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I sleep from them a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in a little bit of time, you're going to have enough money to get a dirt place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the dirt G place to live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's like rent a room from somebody for a few hundred bucks or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you're going to talk to your daughter, you know, like when you can, I don't know what kind of legal situation you're in with her, whether you're allowed to visit her, but you're going to fall the rules.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to stay positive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No negativity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not because anything negative about her, not going to say anything negative about life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can concentrate on her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, does she care that you don't have money, that you don't have problems or that you have problems that you have this, you don't have a, does she care about anything that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not as much as she cares about the fact that, you know, she's got cramps and this, you know, she's coloring a flower and you can help her color flowers, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you focus on with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You do kid stuff with her, let her world be bright and beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You shelter her from the misery and the darkness of the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where you do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where that's what dads do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Continue your job at Wendy's or Home Depot or whatever you're working.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Find some kind of a trade that you're interested in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Electrician, plumber, welder, carpenter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You find one of those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which one you're interested in?
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[SPEAKER_00]: they're all cool jobs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all very gratifying to wire a place, to put plumbing in a place, to weld something together, to build a house or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then once you figure out which one you're slightly interested in, you find one of those companies that does that and you go and get job there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to take a minimum wage pay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever you're getting paid at Wendy's, you're getting paid at Home Depot, you're going to say, listen, I will do, I will be labor for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do whatever you need me to do for minimum wage and you're going to bust your ass and you're going to keep saving money and you're going to, you know, you're trying to pay off debts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you're going to have enough money yet to pay off debts, learn whatever skill it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Electrician.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to start to learn that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to watch YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to read books about this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be a library, read books about being an electrician.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, you're maintaining a positive relationship with your daughter because that's what we bring to our daughters, positivity and good and light and kids stuff and flowers and rainbows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we bring to our kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our daughters, pure positivity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eventually, you figure out where you what qualifications you need to be on an electrician.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you got to do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you need to do to get that piece of paper, the central electrician?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to go to that school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because you saved your money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you're saving your money for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're continuing to work hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not wasting any money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're continuing to pay your debts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you look up, and in three years, and it's gonna be a long hard three years, but in three years, you're gonna be in a relatively good situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna have a steady job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna have an employer that appreciates you, that you show up early, that you stay late, that you work hard, that you're clean, that you do what you're supposed to do,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna have some money from that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna have a marketable skill cause you went and got that whatever that certification is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna find a place to live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll have bought a $2800 vehicle that's fairly reliable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're now your daughter's five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not too anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, when she's between two, three, four, five, she's not gonna remember a lot of that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I wanna work too worried about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just look, you're a loving dad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You bring the light when you can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But by the time three years from now, she's going to be five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when she'll actually know and she'll remember and appreciate your interactions with her and then you're slowly with the permission of her mom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to get a little bit more integrated with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're going to continue to go again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be always be professional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're in a business relationship with her mom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where you are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Professional business relationship with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No emotions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the Jocco Underground podcast.
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