Oct. 6, 2025
Jocko Underground: "Up Before The Enemy". Disciplined? Foolish? Or Not That Serious?


Up before the enemy. Disciplined vs. Crazy
Balancing it all. Training as a Specialized Officer
Discovering a family member's Infidelity
Homeschool vs. Public School Debate
Friendship Destroyed by Politics. What to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the jockel underground podcast number 184 sitting here with echo turtles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have got some questions from YouTubers out in the world and we will provide some guidance, some courses of action and some recommendations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we got.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's end this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of times these questions, by the way, a lot of these questions, the concept that underlies the question.
00:22.824 --> 00:24.486
[SPEAKER_00]: can be like live to all aspects of life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like one of these little tasks.
00:27.068 --> 00:34.416
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I do this work I'll read the question and it'll be like, oh, this very specific person at this very specific place said this and does this to what should I do?
00:34.456 --> 00:38.120
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, wait, wait, all you gotta do switch out the details and you're like, bro, that's me all day.
00:38.421 --> 00:38.801
[SPEAKER_01]: Same same.
00:39.882 --> 00:41.264
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it's good beneficial.
00:41.844 --> 00:42.765
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait, look at it.
00:42.785 --> 00:43.606
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, first question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I spent a lot of my days on the road for work, oftentimes needing to be at work at 4.45 a.m.
00:53.614 --> 01:01.820
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll always make sure to get a workout in before work because I believe I perform better and I'm just an overall better human being after work out.
01:02.061 --> 01:06.564
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if it's just an average hotel gym, you'd be amazed what you can do with a 20 pound kettlebell.
01:07.865 --> 01:08.225
[SPEAKER_01]: True that.
01:09.406 --> 01:13.193
[SPEAKER_01]: But this requires me to get up at 255 am, which is very early.
01:14.194 --> 01:16.538
[SPEAKER_01]: So am I disciplined or am I crazy?
01:16.719 --> 01:18.101
[SPEAKER_01]: All my coworkers think I'm crazy.
01:18.221 --> 01:19.644
[SPEAKER_01]: Perhaps I'm a little a boat.
01:23.021 --> 01:27.543
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be interesting to know how much sleep this guy is getting and it would also be interesting.
01:27.583 --> 01:30.765
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess even let me put a question even before that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How much sleep does this individual need?
01:33.146 --> 01:33.306
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
01:33.326 --> 01:35.687
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I started and people believed need different levels of sleep.
01:35.707 --> 01:36.467
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's different.
01:37.468 --> 01:39.168
[SPEAKER_00]: My family is a good example.
01:40.229 --> 01:41.770
[SPEAKER_00]: My, I don't need a lot of sleep.
01:42.830 --> 01:44.911
[SPEAKER_00]: My oldest daughter doesn't need a lot of sleep.
01:45.431 --> 01:46.192
[SPEAKER_00]: My middle daughter.
01:47.392 --> 01:52.756
[SPEAKER_00]: You better get, it's gonna take some activity to get her out of bed in the morning because she likes to sleep my wife.
01:53.777 --> 01:54.657
[SPEAKER_00]: She likes to sleep.
01:55.158 --> 01:55.878
[SPEAKER_00]: She'll sleep a lot.
01:56.379 --> 01:59.381
[SPEAKER_00]: She'll be no factor going about at eight, fifteen, eight, thirty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, she'll look at me all tired like a lot of time is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like seven, forty, five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my son was kind of in the middle, didn't need to sleep, but liked it if he got it.
02:13.291 --> 02:13.711
[SPEAKER_00]: But if no,
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[SPEAKER_00]: So everyone's a little bit different, and I wonder where this individual is on that spectrum, and then is he meeting the sleep requirements that he has, and how does he feel about it?
02:28.341 --> 02:34.466
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you're waking up at 255, you're having good days and you're feeling strong, and you're doing good, and that's, I mean, who, you know, all good?
02:35.146 --> 02:35.446
[SPEAKER_00]: All good.
02:36.707 --> 02:44.152
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing you might want to pay a little bit more attention to is what is happening with your strength and your conditioning, right?
02:44.372 --> 02:45.213
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it improving or not?
02:46.674 --> 02:54.680
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you're working out and not getting any rest, as Equal Charles, probably about to go on a 38 minute round for rent for recovery.
02:54.840 --> 03:01.044
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, rec rest and recovery, then you might not be getting stronger, you might be getting weaker, you might be getting sick all the time, that kind of stuff.
03:01.545 --> 03:11.232
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, there's been recent research and the humorment has been talking about this, the fact that if you don't get like a proper night's sleep, but you get up and exercise, it kind of counters your lack of sleep if you have this research.
03:12.012 --> 03:16.434
[SPEAKER_00]: No, there's like research done So so research was done again.
03:16.474 --> 03:18.414
[SPEAKER_00]: Do I have every get a literature in front of me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't but research was done I saw it on the I saw it on Instagram so it must be true No, but you remember and I did like chime in to the comments when he posted something about it
03:30.748 --> 03:38.615
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you only get four hours or five hours of sleep or night, but you get up and you work out, it makes up for the fact that you didn't get great sleep.
03:38.995 --> 03:41.777
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you continue on that path, it's gonna end up being negative.
03:42.678 --> 03:44.600
[SPEAKER_00]: So you'll get diminishing returns at some point.
03:44.680 --> 03:48.203
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you need to for the question here.
03:48.823 --> 03:50.205
[SPEAKER_00]: You need to be very honest with yourself.
03:51.726 --> 03:53.608
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you performing optimally?
03:55.379 --> 03:57.281
[SPEAKER_00]: like are you getting stronger?
03:57.381 --> 03:58.402
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you getting faster?
03:59.503 --> 04:02.486
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you getting more flexible because you're doing these good workouts?
04:03.467 --> 04:06.511
[SPEAKER_00]: What about, and the other thing is like, what about your health markers, right?
04:06.951 --> 04:10.975
[SPEAKER_00]: Because sleep impacts your, like your blood work can be bad.
04:11.716 --> 04:14.479
[SPEAKER_00]: Your cholesterol can be impacted by the sleep that you're getting.
04:15.207 --> 04:18.068
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would do a little bit of research beyond us with yourself.
04:18.828 --> 04:34.631
[SPEAKER_00]: And dude, if this guy's going to bed at 830 at night, or 8 o'clock at night, and getting what, you know, six solid hours, seven hours, solid bro, all good.
04:34.671 --> 04:35.391
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if we get up at 255.
04:35.431 --> 04:35.592
[SPEAKER_00]: All good.
04:37.877 --> 04:39.057
[SPEAKER_00]: So pay attention, how you feel?
04:39.237 --> 04:40.858
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you like falling asleep in meetings?
04:41.318 --> 04:43.078
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you falling asleep while you're driving your car?
04:44.378 --> 04:45.118
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause that's not good.
04:45.599 --> 04:46.639
[SPEAKER_00]: And you probably need more sleep.
04:47.059 --> 04:59.361
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're feeling good, are you drinking, freaking 19 cups of coffee, you're drinking 12 goes a day and having five servings of brain power from Jockel fuel a day, cause you shouldn't be doing that.
05:00.822 --> 05:06.503
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're staying pretty naturally, you're not oeding on caffeine and you're getting enough sleep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're you're you're just disciplined not crazy.
05:11.910 --> 05:14.471
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a little crazy, but yeah, all good in a good way.
05:14.851 --> 05:20.093
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Yeah, is it beneficial is it useful for you for your life?
05:20.233 --> 05:29.077
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that and because people will say Everyone's in a while I'll come across somebody who'll be like, yeah, I get a bit three, you know, and it's like it's almost like a
05:30.418 --> 05:33.099
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm better than you kind of been attitude, not you, bro.
05:33.399 --> 05:35.659
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, everyone's in a while, you know?
05:35.839 --> 05:39.240
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, technically, if you just kind of look at it, it is different.
05:39.440 --> 05:41.001
[SPEAKER_01]: It is different than normal people for sure.
05:41.021 --> 05:43.241
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why it seems weird or crazy or whatever.
05:44.001 --> 05:50.443
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you just shift your schedule, because people would give me some slack for like staying up super late when I used to step to like, five a.m.
05:50.503 --> 05:50.823
[SPEAKER_01]: and stuff.
05:51.863 --> 05:53.665
[SPEAKER_01]: And so what's really the difference?
05:53.705 --> 05:56.328
[SPEAKER_01]: I just shift it, you know, like guys who worked at graveyard shift.
05:56.368 --> 05:57.849
[SPEAKER_01]: It's essentially that, you know?
05:57.990 --> 06:00.853
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not that, and then they're like, who are you sleeping so late, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'll sleep until noon sometimes, one sometimes, pm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, oh, I'm a slacker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, my whole schedule is shifted, seems same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sounds crazy, just because you're comparing it to the noise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're a slacker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But those are two different things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just the same thing though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All this guy did this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not necessarily a smoker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A normal person, not necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've said this a million times, like people like, just because you get up early, I'm like, I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you get up at 10?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, is you're getting out getting after it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You get up earlier than me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My most important thing, I think usually, as I tell people, just make, try and get up around the same time every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're getting off in random places,
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00:00.251 --> 00:03.893
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the jockel underground podcast number 184 sitting here with echo turtles.
00:04.593 --> 00:13.058
[SPEAKER_00]: We have got some questions from YouTubers out in the world and we will provide some guidance, some courses of action and some recommendations.
00:14.579 --> 00:15.059
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we got.
00:15.239 --> 00:15.840
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's end this.
00:16.160 --> 00:21.783
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of times these questions, by the way, a lot of these questions, the concept that underlies the question.
00:22.824 --> 00:24.486
[SPEAKER_00]: can be like live to all aspects of life.
00:24.566 --> 00:25.286
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, right?
00:25.607 --> 00:27.048
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like one of these little tasks.
00:27.068 --> 00:34.416
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I do this work I'll read the question and it'll be like, oh, this very specific person at this very specific place said this and does this to what should I do?
00:34.456 --> 00:38.120
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, wait, wait, all you gotta do switch out the details and you're like, bro, that's me all day.
00:38.421 --> 00:38.801
[SPEAKER_01]: Same same.
00:39.882 --> 00:41.264
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it's good beneficial.
00:41.844 --> 00:42.765
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait, look at it.
00:42.785 --> 00:43.606
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, first question.
00:45.568 --> 00:52.113
[SPEAKER_01]: I spent a lot of my days on the road for work, oftentimes needing to be at work at 4.45 a.m.
00:53.614 --> 01:01.820
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll always make sure to get a workout in before work because I believe I perform better and I'm just an overall better human being after work out.
01:02.061 --> 01:06.564
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if it's just an average hotel gym, you'd be amazed what you can do with a 20 pound kettlebell.
01:07.865 --> 01:08.225
[SPEAKER_01]: True that.
01:09.406 --> 01:13.193
[SPEAKER_01]: But this requires me to get up at 255 am, which is very early.
01:14.194 --> 01:16.538
[SPEAKER_01]: So am I disciplined or am I crazy?
01:16.719 --> 01:18.101
[SPEAKER_01]: All my coworkers think I'm crazy.
01:18.221 --> 01:19.644
[SPEAKER_01]: Perhaps I'm a little a boat.
01:23.021 --> 01:27.543
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be interesting to know how much sleep this guy is getting and it would also be interesting.
01:27.583 --> 01:30.765
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess even let me put a question even before that one.
01:30.825 --> 01:32.265
[SPEAKER_00]: How much sleep does this individual need?
01:33.146 --> 01:33.306
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
01:33.326 --> 01:35.687
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I started and people believed need different levels of sleep.
01:35.707 --> 01:36.467
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's different.
01:37.468 --> 01:39.168
[SPEAKER_00]: My family is a good example.
01:40.229 --> 01:41.770
[SPEAKER_00]: My, I don't need a lot of sleep.
01:42.830 --> 01:44.911
[SPEAKER_00]: My oldest daughter doesn't need a lot of sleep.
01:45.431 --> 01:46.192
[SPEAKER_00]: My middle daughter.
01:47.392 --> 01:52.756
[SPEAKER_00]: You better get, it's gonna take some activity to get her out of bed in the morning because she likes to sleep my wife.
01:53.777 --> 01:54.657
[SPEAKER_00]: She likes to sleep.
01:55.158 --> 01:55.878
[SPEAKER_00]: She'll sleep a lot.
01:56.379 --> 01:59.381
[SPEAKER_00]: She'll be no factor going about at eight, fifteen, eight, thirty.
02:00.842 --> 02:03.064
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, she'll look at me all tired like a lot of time is it?
02:03.204 --> 02:05.205
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like seven, forty, five.
02:08.027 --> 02:13.191
[SPEAKER_00]: And my son was kind of in the middle, didn't need to sleep, but liked it if he got it.
02:13.291 --> 02:13.711
[SPEAKER_00]: But if no,
02:17.274 --> 02:28.101
[SPEAKER_00]: So everyone's a little bit different, and I wonder where this individual is on that spectrum, and then is he meeting the sleep requirements that he has, and how does he feel about it?
02:28.341 --> 02:34.466
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you're waking up at 255, you're having good days and you're feeling strong, and you're doing good, and that's, I mean, who, you know, all good?
02:35.146 --> 02:35.446
[SPEAKER_00]: All good.
02:36.707 --> 02:44.152
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing you might want to pay a little bit more attention to is what is happening with your strength and your conditioning, right?
02:44.372 --> 02:45.213
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it improving or not?
02:46.674 --> 02:54.680
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you're working out and not getting any rest, as Equal Charles, probably about to go on a 38 minute round for rent for recovery.
02:54.840 --> 03:01.044
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, rec rest and recovery, then you might not be getting stronger, you might be getting weaker, you might be getting sick all the time, that kind of stuff.
03:01.545 --> 03:11.232
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, there's been recent research and the humorment has been talking about this, the fact that if you don't get like a proper night's sleep, but you get up and exercise, it kind of counters your lack of sleep if you have this research.
03:12.012 --> 03:16.434
[SPEAKER_00]: No, there's like research done So so research was done again.
03:16.474 --> 03:18.414
[SPEAKER_00]: Do I have every get a literature in front of me?
03:18.474 --> 03:29.858
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't but research was done I saw it on the I saw it on Instagram so it must be true No, but you remember and I did like chime in to the comments when he posted something about it
03:30.748 --> 03:38.615
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you only get four hours or five hours of sleep or night, but you get up and you work out, it makes up for the fact that you didn't get great sleep.
03:38.995 --> 03:41.777
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you continue on that path, it's gonna end up being negative.
03:42.678 --> 03:44.600
[SPEAKER_00]: So you'll get diminishing returns at some point.
03:44.680 --> 03:48.203
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you need to for the question here.
03:48.823 --> 03:50.205
[SPEAKER_00]: You need to be very honest with yourself.
03:51.726 --> 03:53.608
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you performing optimally?
03:55.379 --> 03:57.281
[SPEAKER_00]: like are you getting stronger?
03:57.381 --> 03:58.402
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you getting faster?
03:59.503 --> 04:02.486
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you getting more flexible because you're doing these good workouts?
04:03.467 --> 04:06.511
[SPEAKER_00]: What about, and the other thing is like, what about your health markers, right?
04:06.951 --> 04:10.975
[SPEAKER_00]: Because sleep impacts your, like your blood work can be bad.
04:11.716 --> 04:14.479
[SPEAKER_00]: Your cholesterol can be impacted by the sleep that you're getting.
04:15.207 --> 04:18.068
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would do a little bit of research beyond us with yourself.
04:18.828 --> 04:34.631
[SPEAKER_00]: And dude, if this guy's going to bed at 830 at night, or 8 o'clock at night, and getting what, you know, six solid hours, seven hours, solid bro, all good.
04:34.671 --> 04:35.391
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if we get up at 255.
04:35.431 --> 04:35.592
[SPEAKER_00]: All good.
04:37.877 --> 04:39.057
[SPEAKER_00]: So pay attention, how you feel?
04:39.237 --> 04:40.858
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you like falling asleep in meetings?
04:41.318 --> 04:43.078
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you falling asleep while you're driving your car?
04:44.378 --> 04:45.118
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause that's not good.
04:45.599 --> 04:46.639
[SPEAKER_00]: And you probably need more sleep.
04:47.059 --> 04:59.361
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're feeling good, are you drinking, freaking 19 cups of coffee, you're drinking 12 goes a day and having five servings of brain power from Jockel fuel a day, cause you shouldn't be doing that.
05:00.822 --> 05:06.503
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're staying pretty naturally, you're not oeding on caffeine and you're getting enough sleep.
05:07.043 --> 05:07.343
[SPEAKER_00]: Good to go.
05:08.408 --> 05:11.329
[SPEAKER_00]: You're you're you're just disciplined not crazy.
05:11.910 --> 05:14.471
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a little crazy, but yeah, all good in a good way.
05:14.851 --> 05:20.093
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Yeah, is it beneficial is it useful for you for your life?
05:20.233 --> 05:29.077
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that and because people will say Everyone's in a while I'll come across somebody who'll be like, yeah, I get a bit three, you know, and it's like it's almost like a
05:30.418 --> 05:33.099
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm better than you kind of been attitude, not you, bro.
05:33.399 --> 05:35.659
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, everyone's in a while, you know?
05:35.839 --> 05:39.240
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, technically, if you just kind of look at it, it is different.
05:39.440 --> 05:41.001
[SPEAKER_01]: It is different than normal people for sure.
05:41.021 --> 05:43.241
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why it seems weird or crazy or whatever.
05:44.001 --> 05:50.443
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you just shift your schedule, because people would give me some slack for like staying up super late when I used to step to like, five a.m.
05:50.503 --> 05:50.823
[SPEAKER_01]: and stuff.
05:51.863 --> 05:53.665
[SPEAKER_01]: And so what's really the difference?
05:53.705 --> 05:56.328
[SPEAKER_01]: I just shift it, you know, like guys who worked at graveyard shift.
05:56.368 --> 05:57.849
[SPEAKER_01]: It's essentially that, you know?
05:57.990 --> 06:00.853
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not that, and then they're like, who are you sleeping so late, you know?
06:00.993 --> 06:04.276
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'll sleep until noon sometimes, one sometimes, pm.
06:04.476 --> 06:05.597
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, oh, I'm a slacker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, my whole schedule is shifted, seems same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sounds crazy, just because you're comparing it to the noise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're a slacker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But those are two different things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just the same thing though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All this guy did this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not necessarily a smoker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A normal person, not necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've said this a million times, like people like, just because you get up early, I'm like, I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you get up at 10?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, is you're getting out getting after it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You get up earlier than me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My most important thing, I think usually, as I tell people, just make, try and get up around the same time every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're getting off in random places,
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