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[SPEAKER_00]: Does the juggle underground podcast number 223 sitting here with echo Charles we have some questions from the front lines from the trenches and we will provide well provide some answers if possible if not some recommendations and at a minimum we will provide some courses of action that you can take to move you in the right direction on the path.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, too, it's a benefit to know that if you have a question, specific or general, or you get any one, I'm answered, on this outfit, send your question to email your question to questions at joccawinderground.com.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The word has been spoken.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a tip, here's actually, this is a good tip, insider tip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't make it super long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you make it like medium to short, that's gonna be beneficial in many ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you just say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, very enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you have to provide enough context.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly right, um, but sometimes a lot of times when they get long, it's like, it's details that are less relevant to the concept of the question, you know, because a lot of these questions, I mean, I get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, these are all personal, like, things that that happened to us as individual, but the idea and the concept of the question applies to many, many people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You seem to say, so in that spirit, fair enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep it brief.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep it simple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I learned that one time, you know, this thing called the Four Laws of Combat Simple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of those, one of those deals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to complain, but some days I feel like I'm losing my sanity and at my breaking point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Working a job where the customer's coworkers and a boss that are coming at me all day, every day with their problems.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Driving in rush hour traffic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: where there is certainly going to be two to three accidents that make the commute take forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Going home to a family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love dearly, but have a whole list of problems themselves, among other things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ask because you guys always seem to seem so good to go, as you say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand the principles detached, check your ego, trust, influence, listen, respecting care, balance, etc.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I apply them every day to my life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe I shoulder a lot of the problems because I've always been steady and reliable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Training just is the only thing that seems to keep me sane at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My question comes down to what is the protocol when life just starts to feel exhausting when the problems don't seem to let up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you guys ever feel this way?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really appreciate everything you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it sounds like you're getting after it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And by getting after it, I mean, it sounds like you're getting after it, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you're getting after it when you don't want to be getting after it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This the way life is sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, obviously there's like, hey, you know, sometimes you get to suck it up and power through right, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know that we get it, you get it, you're doing that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing, you've been, it sounds like you've been doing it for a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After too long of a while, you have to recognize that this is not what we're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not what life is supposed to be, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's on, look, I would say it's unsustainable, but I'm sure you actually could sustain it if you had to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If people can go in a prisoner of war camp for seven years eating bugs, we can sustain a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's a difference between needing to bear a lot because there's no other choice in the world, like you're in a prisoner of war camp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And bearing a lot because you're kind of stuck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're stuck and you're and you're not making a change.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So at this juncture, what I would be doing if I were you is I would be trying to come up with a long-term strategy to change your situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't know what kind of industry you're in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you that every industry is going to have customers, co-workers and bosses that are coming at you all day with different problems.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that doesn't matter what industry you're in, but maybe you don't particularly like this industry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you don't particularly like the type of people in the industry because there are different types of people in different types of industries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the problems are a little bit different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you don't like these types of problems.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or better you're involved in gauge with better people that are that you get along with more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So is there an industry or is there a job that you look at you go man I'd really like to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know I one day I was building a wall in my backyard and I told my wife hey when I get out of the Navy I'm going to become a Mason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to I'm going to be a brick layer because
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[SPEAKER_00]: The bricks don't, they don't really like interact with you, you know, you put the brick there, it's going there and when when you put the brick where it's supposed to be, the brick is where it's supposed to be people people are angry, you know, they're not like that, you you tell a person to go there bro, there's a
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[SPEAKER_00]: we don't know what they're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know what they're thinking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's all kinds of chaos going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so having been in the military and just interacted with people for so long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh yeah, when I get out, when I retire from the Navy, I'm going to be a I'm going to become Mason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just going to play block.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Carry bricks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lay block.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Carry bricks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I ended up getting involved with even more people, what I got out of the Navy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you need to look around and say, okay, what job can I get into?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That will get me in a better situation, something that I enjoy more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and by the way, while you're doing that, find something that's gonna mitigate your commute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because spending, look, some people don't mind driving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: JP to now, he'll be like, oh, yeah, I got to, I got to events in so and so and so on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, oh, cool, well, time's just like, oh, no, I'm driving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a 12 hour drive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just gets on the road and drives.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He likes driving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He likes it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I get kind of frustrated when I got to drive eight minutes to go to a nice restaurant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe can we just order it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's where I'm at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, if you're getting traffic and you've got two to three accidents, and you don't know what time you're getting home, like that's a problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Find some kind of a job or some kind of a location where you don't have to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, that's what you need to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to come up with a plan right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And look, this might take a year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This might take 18 months of, you gotta get some kind of schooling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta get some kind of training.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta put your resume out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're that miserable in your current job,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you got to make a change and maybe you just got to make go some entry level position to learn again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know your financial situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's all kinds of companies you go work for and you can move up through the ranks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Home Depot, go kick ass at home Depot, you can move up the ranks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Walmart, go kick ass at Walmart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are companies that hire from within.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I meet people from companies like this, Costco, in and out, Chick-fil-A, people that started there as a whatever, stock, boy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they're a store manager.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, entry level positions, entry level construction positions, be a laborer, work 12 hours a day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to figure out what it is you want to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, you know, go be a laborer for an electrician or a plumber.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get go see what that's like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are skills you can learn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And those again, these are all just options.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, sure what you like doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you hate what you're doing right now, you've got to figure out a way to stop doing the thing that you're hating doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So changing your job over the next 12 to 18 months is a strategic move that you need to look into.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I don't know what you have for, you say you love your family, I don't know what you have for kids, I don't know what you have for mortgage, I don't know what you owe for rent, I don't know if the kids are taking ballet lessons that cost 300 bucks a month, like this could be problematic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe then you what you got to look at is how can you minimize the commute is there somewhere you can move is can you get different job in the same industry that's a little closer got to figure something out because you're you shouldn't be you shouldn't be in this kind of breaking point scenario and part of look you can you can make it through a longer time of breaking point as long as you know hey look I got a plan coming up a plan I'm going to get out of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing I'll mention that since you mention it is that you say you are steady and reliable and what that means is people can count on you and what that means if you're not careful you can be taken advantage of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you end up being responsible for things that you don't you don't have the capacity for or you're taking away from your own self and family to because other people are counting on you to do things for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and you end up, you're not able to move forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not able to study for a new job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not able to get your resume out there because you're too busy putting out fires around you that all these other prepo are bringing into your world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Echo Charles is a master of not being involved in other people's stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes or no echo Charles confirmed accurate confirmed like there's some stuff you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, that's that's not that's not your thing The echo Charles does not do this kind of thing You know what I mean good Charles does that required for this yes Actually did not required for this scenario, you know, no no one's no one's got your no one's got your number on speed dial for for you know random stuff like I there's some people like oh, you know
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does the juggle underground podcast number 223 sitting here with echo Charles we have some questions from the front lines from the trenches and we will provide well provide some answers if possible if not some recommendations and at a minimum we will provide some courses of action that you can take to move you in the right direction on the path.
00:26.519 --> 00:44.656
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, too, it's a benefit to know that if you have a question, specific or general, or you get any one, I'm answered, on this outfit, send your question to email your question to questions at joccawinderground.com.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The word has been spoken.
00:46.919 --> 00:50.382
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a tip, here's actually, this is a good tip, insider tip.
00:51.482 --> 00:52.543
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't make it super long.
00:53.504 --> 00:58.727
[SPEAKER_01]: If you make it like medium to short, that's gonna be beneficial in many ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you just say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, very enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you have to provide enough context.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly right, um, but sometimes a lot of times when they get long, it's like, it's details that are less relevant to the concept of the question, you know, because a lot of these questions, I mean, I get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, these are all personal, like, things that that happened to us as individual, but the idea and the concept of the question applies to many, many people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You seem to say, so in that spirit, fair enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep it brief.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep it simple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I learned that one time, you know, this thing called the Four Laws of Combat Simple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of those, one of those deals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to complain, but some days I feel like I'm losing my sanity and at my breaking point.
01:43.414 --> 01:50.138
[SPEAKER_01]: Working a job where the customer's coworkers and a boss that are coming at me all day, every day with their problems.
01:50.759 --> 01:52.119
[SPEAKER_01]: Driving in rush hour traffic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: where there is certainly going to be two to three accidents that make the commute take forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Going home to a family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love dearly, but have a whole list of problems themselves, among other things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ask because you guys always seem to seem so good to go, as you say.
02:10.565 --> 02:17.107
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand the principles detached, check your ego, trust, influence, listen, respecting care, balance, etc.
02:17.827 --> 02:19.107
[SPEAKER_01]: I apply them every day to my life.
02:19.468 --> 02:24.189
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe I shoulder a lot of the problems because I've always been steady and reliable.
02:24.469 --> 02:28.350
[SPEAKER_01]: Training just is the only thing that seems to keep me sane at the moment.
02:30.131 --> 02:37.293
[SPEAKER_01]: My question comes down to what is the protocol when life just starts to feel exhausting when the problems don't seem to let up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you guys ever feel this way?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really appreciate everything you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it sounds like you're getting after it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And by getting after it, I mean, it sounds like you're getting after it, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you're getting after it when you don't want to be getting after it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This the way life is sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, obviously there's like, hey, you know, sometimes you get to suck it up and power through right, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know that we get it, you get it, you're doing that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing, you've been, it sounds like you've been doing it for a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After too long of a while, you have to recognize that this is not what we're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not what life is supposed to be, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's on, look, I would say it's unsustainable, but I'm sure you actually could sustain it if you had to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If people can go in a prisoner of war camp for seven years eating bugs, we can sustain a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's a difference between needing to bear a lot because there's no other choice in the world, like you're in a prisoner of war camp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And bearing a lot because you're kind of stuck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're stuck and you're and you're not making a change.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So at this juncture, what I would be doing if I were you is I would be trying to come up with a long-term strategy to change your situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't know what kind of industry you're in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you that every industry is going to have customers, co-workers and bosses that are coming at you all day with different problems.
04:18.449 --> 04:23.451
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that doesn't matter what industry you're in, but maybe you don't particularly like this industry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you don't particularly like the type of people in the industry because there are different types of people in different types of industries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the problems are a little bit different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you don't like these types of problems.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or better you're involved in gauge with better people that are that you get along with more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So is there an industry or is there a job that you look at you go man I'd really like to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know I one day I was building a wall in my backyard and I told my wife hey when I get out of the Navy I'm going to become a Mason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to I'm going to be a brick layer because
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[SPEAKER_00]: The bricks don't, they don't really like interact with you, you know, you put the brick there, it's going there and when when you put the brick where it's supposed to be, the brick is where it's supposed to be people people are angry, you know, they're not like that, you you tell a person to go there bro, there's a
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[SPEAKER_00]: we don't know what they're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know what they're thinking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's all kinds of chaos going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so having been in the military and just interacted with people for so long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh yeah, when I get out, when I retire from the Navy, I'm going to be a I'm going to become Mason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just going to play block.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Carry bricks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lay block.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Carry bricks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I ended up getting involved with even more people, what I got out of the Navy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you need to look around and say, okay, what job can I get into?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That will get me in a better situation, something that I enjoy more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and by the way, while you're doing that, find something that's gonna mitigate your commute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because spending, look, some people don't mind driving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: JP to now, he'll be like, oh, yeah, I got to, I got to events in so and so and so on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, oh, cool, well, time's just like, oh, no, I'm driving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a 12 hour drive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just gets on the road and drives.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He likes driving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He likes it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I get kind of frustrated when I got to drive eight minutes to go to a nice restaurant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe can we just order it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's where I'm at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, if you're getting traffic and you've got two to three accidents, and you don't know what time you're getting home, like that's a problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Find some kind of a job or some kind of a location where you don't have to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, that's what you need to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to come up with a plan right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And look, this might take a year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This might take 18 months of, you gotta get some kind of schooling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta get some kind of training.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta put your resume out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're that miserable in your current job,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you got to make a change and maybe you just got to make go some entry level position to learn again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know your financial situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's all kinds of companies you go work for and you can move up through the ranks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Home Depot, go kick ass at home Depot, you can move up the ranks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Walmart, go kick ass at Walmart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are companies that hire from within.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I meet people from companies like this, Costco, in and out, Chick-fil-A, people that started there as a whatever, stock, boy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they're a store manager.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, entry level positions, entry level construction positions, be a laborer, work 12 hours a day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to figure out what it is you want to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, you know, go be a laborer for an electrician or a plumber.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get go see what that's like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are skills you can learn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And those again, these are all just options.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, sure what you like doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you hate what you're doing right now, you've got to figure out a way to stop doing the thing that you're hating doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So changing your job over the next 12 to 18 months is a strategic move that you need to look into.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I don't know what you have for, you say you love your family, I don't know what you have for kids, I don't know what you have for mortgage, I don't know what you owe for rent, I don't know if the kids are taking ballet lessons that cost 300 bucks a month, like this could be problematic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe then you what you got to look at is how can you minimize the commute is there somewhere you can move is can you get different job in the same industry that's a little closer got to figure something out because you're you shouldn't be you shouldn't be in this kind of breaking point scenario and part of look you can you can make it through a longer time of breaking point as long as you know hey look I got a plan coming up a plan I'm going to get out of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing I'll mention that since you mention it is that you say you are steady and reliable and what that means is people can count on you and what that means if you're not careful you can be taken advantage of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you end up being responsible for things that you don't you don't have the capacity for or you're taking away from your own self and family to because other people are counting on you to do things for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and you end up, you're not able to move forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not able to study for a new job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not able to get your resume out there because you're too busy putting out fires around you that all these other prepo are bringing into your world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Echo Charles is a master of not being involved in other people's stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes or no echo Charles confirmed accurate confirmed like there's some stuff you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, that's that's not that's not your thing The echo Charles does not do this kind of thing You know what I mean good Charles does that required for this yes Actually did not required for this scenario, you know, no no one's no one's got your no one's got your number on speed dial for for you know random stuff like I there's some people like oh, you know
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