Jan. 26, 2026

Jocko Underground: A Message For You If You Think You Should Be More Than You Currently Are.

Jocko Underground: A Message For You If You Think You Should Be More Than You Currently Are.
Jocko Underground: A Message For You If You Think You Should Be More Than You Currently Are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the Jockel underground podcast number 198 sitting here with echo Charles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have got some questions from You troopers out there in the field and we're gonna provide some guidance provide some answers possibly and an minimal Provide some courses of action that you can follow to get on the right path That's what we're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right first question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was supposed to be more than I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm 27 now at 17.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I tested high.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was good at science and writing The people believed in me

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been recognizing the significance of AI early, but failed to act on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even then, I felt time was running out 10 years later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel stuck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've worked jobs at built character, construction, and long-term grunt rule at psychospital.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is like hospital.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I still live with my parents paycheck to paycheck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I help care for them, which I value, but I struggle with depression, distraction, obsession, and media addiction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a plan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my major, cutting media, building businesses, reading, but I've always had a plan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After a decade of failed follow-through, I've stopped believing in myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say, I'll execute despite the lateness and doubt, but another voice says I've been saying that for years since I'll say it one more time or still I'll say it one more time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's wrong with my thinking?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so you're in a rough spot that probably a lot of people have been in and there's a little bit of a

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[SPEAKER_01]: event horizon you know what that is just an event horizon is it's it's a it's a point where a line on a black hole where once you go past that line you never get out

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, the certain point in life, I hate to say this, at a certain point in life, you go over the event horizon and you're just, that's what's, that's what's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna go down that black hole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say that at 27 years old, you're not even close to the event horizon, so we got that going force.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, my assessment in this situation is, it kind of sounds like you are,

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[SPEAKER_01]: lying to yourself in what could be a couple of different ways that you're lying to yourself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first way of lying to yourself is that you say you want to do all these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you really don't it's it's it's kind of a lie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You you actually are satisfied with the long-term Grunt role at you know the psych hospital You you make enough money to get by and that's kind of okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not really having your responsibility because you still live at home So you don't really have any I mean you're You're you're you're not gonna be homeless because you live at home Whatever money you make you can kind of just put towards whatever you want

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is where you are, and this is where you're going to be, and you're, the truth is you're okay with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The truth is you're okay with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a lie to say, you're lying to yourself when you say, you know, I'm supposed to be more than I am, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does that make sense?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's a little hard to follow what I'm saying, but so far so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm supposed to be more than this, but really,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're actually pretty happy with what you got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you have some test at school, and you're not ready for it, and you roll in there, and you get an 82.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some girl, the smart girl in the class, like, oh, how'd you do on the test?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, oh, I got an 82.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish I would have done better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish I would have done better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can do better, but in reality, you're heart in your soul, you're like, man, I don't remember how I got an 82.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're kind of, this could be the lie that you're telling yourself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of like you would tell that girl like I could have done better you know I should have done better when read read like you're hard You're like man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so thankful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that could be you that could be the lie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're telling just And here's here's what there's a little bit of evidence to that right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the evidence the evidence is

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you really want to do something, you do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you really want to do something, when it's just boiling up inside of you, then you wait, you can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never mind, like, oh, I gotta get up in the morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't sleep in the morning because you got to stuff to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, that's a little evidence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that could be the truth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, that could be the lie that you're saying, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other another lie that you could be telling yourself is all these things that you're quote unquote dealing with, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The distraction, the obsession, the media, media addiction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's think about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to do what we want to do with our one shot at life, because I'm going to spend four hours a day on the gram.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a level of addiction, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to throw away my dreams because I want to look at a screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obsession, obsessed with what, distraction, distracted by what, depression, depressed about what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're 27-year-old healthy male human that lives in America.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm assuming you live in America.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which means you can do anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like an excuse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a weird, a weird,

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[SPEAKER_01]: concept.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the excuse is I fail to follow through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't it weird to say my excuse is I fail to follow through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My excuses are, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Jocco, how's that new workout program going?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was going good, but I always abandoned my routines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like, isn't it a weird to take something that you control and use it as an excuse?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, that is, that is a bizarre world thing to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a lie to say that, oh, I always abandon my routines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No one's fortunate that you're choosing to abandon your routines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not, that's a lie that you abandon routines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might be true that you do it, but it's a lie that you have to continue to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lie that you have to continue to follow, that you have to continue to fail to follow through on things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lie to say that's part of your personality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not part of your personality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's what you choose to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that could be the lie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are just like some little ways that you might be lying to yourself and it's kind of, again, it's like, if I paint myself as a failure, that becomes the excuse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then again, again, that is a choice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I never get anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I never get lucky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing ever comes my way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are all things, you're manifesting those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not even manifesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're imposing those on yourself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You might be lying to yourself telling yourself that in any way shape or form, any of these goals that you have are easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because nothing is easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: None of these things that you're talking about, whether it's MMA, whether it's building a business, none of these things are not easy to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You wanna go out and get a house somewhere, you think it's easy to get a house?

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[SPEAKER_01]: In order to get a house, you gotta get a job, you gotta excel with that job, you gotta save money, you gotta not squander money, I'm stupid things like that is a hard thing to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, each one of those steps is a hard thing to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, it is not freaking easy to be more than I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's freaking hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, one thing that caught my eye a little bit here is it seems like you were had a little bit of natural ability, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is one of the things they say about some seal candidates, some seal people in Buds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One group of people that historically have problems are people that were really natural athletes They were the captain of the football team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, there's plenty guys that make it that are this, but there are some guys That everything was easy for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were the fastest runner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were the fastest swimmer They were the fastest it's uh so-and-so they got the girls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were kind of a winner and when they lose for the first time They get discombobulated and they fall down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They quit

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, it sounds like you tested high, you were good at science, you were good at writing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People believed in you that like, oh man, you're gonna be good to go, you're gonna be so successful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what they forgot to tell you is you're only gonna be successful is if you work your ass off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't have the idea in your mind that stuff is gonna come on a silver platter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never mind a silver platter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not gonna come on a ceramic plate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never mind a ceramic plate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not gonna come on a lunch tray.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never mind a lunch tray.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not gonna come in a brown paper bag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not gonna be delivered to you period and a story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You gotta go make it happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you have to earn it, you have to fight for it, you have to scratch and you have to scrape and you have to grind, you know that that term, you know, it's kind of a term in the ether right now, right, the grind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, where's that come from?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, you could say it's a little trend, all it's whatever, but it is a real thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you have to grind to make things happen, grind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That means taking too hard objects

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's grinding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So these are some various ways that you may have been lying to yourself or in some similar way that I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's something that you're asking what's wrong with my thinking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what's wrong with your thinking is it lacks the truth of the situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what you have to do is you have to start telling yourself the truth, that's what you have to start doing, you have to be hard with the truth, you have to be hard with the truth on yourself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, here's the good news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, you're only 27 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have not, you're not even close to the event horizon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could start today and be a world beater in four, no, not four years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Six years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Six years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could have like, you might not be at the top of where you want to be, but you could be well underway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 27 years old bro, can I trade place with you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can have everything I have right now and I'll be 27.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we do that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you send me an email and I'll swap places if you I'll be 27, you can have my, everything I have, you can't have my family, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can have all the material things, you can have all the credentials or whatever, you can have it all and I'll be 27.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we do that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause I would take that in a heartbeat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, your 27 years old, you can change the world possibly, but I know for a fact, you can change your world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what you have to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to figure out what it is you want to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to write those things down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to figure out what your strategic goals are, what you're trying to get to, and you have to write those things down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to figure out the little tactical daily disciplines that you can execute in order to make those things come true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Jockel is going on this thing again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I am, because that's what you have to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you have to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't just lay in bed and wish for things to come your way, because they're not going to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to get out and you have to go and make things happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you have to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to execute those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, this is the way you move forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't do that, you will be 37.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the same situation, 47 in the same situation, 57 in the same situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if the lie you're telling yourself is that you want all the success and that you really don't want that, then okay, man, be, take care of your parents, I know you take care of your parents, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can be 37, you can get you to work that job, you can take care of your parents, you live at home, you have no responsibilities, if that's, if that's the truth, then do that, it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay, I don't, I don't look down on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: do not look down to that at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If that's what you want to do, then embrace it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And be like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I live at home, but I take care of my parents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I make a decent salary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really have to worry about bills.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I'm gonna do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking up, there's nothing wrong with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But don't lie to yourself and say you wanna do this other stuff when you're not willing to get out of bed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the Jocco Underground podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you wanna continue to listen,

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[SPEAKER_01]: go to jockelunderground.com and subscribe and we're doing this we're doing this to mitigate our reliance on external platforms so we are not subject to their control and we are doing this so that we can support the jockel podcast which will remain as is free for all as long as we can keep it that way but we are doing this so we don't have to be under the control of sponsors

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[SPEAKER_01]: and we're doing it so we can give you more control, more interaction, more direct connections, better communications with us, and to do that we are building a website right now, where we'll build the utilize to strengthen this legion of troopers that are in the game with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you, it's jacco underground.com.

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