547: How to Master Uncertainty. With (Ret) SEAL Commander, Rich Diviney

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[UNKNOWN]: This is Jocoponcast number 547 with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink.

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[UNKNOWN]: Good evening, Echo.

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[UNKNOWN]: Good evening.

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[UNKNOWN]: What if I told you that your past stumbles were merely echoes not edicts of your potential?

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[UNKNOWN]: Imagine what's possible if you unleashed the natural prowess within you akin to the seals achieving their caliber of precision and resolve.

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[UNKNOWN]: Now imagine what's possible when this intrinsic ability is not just developed in you, but in every team you're part of.

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[UNKNOWN]: Consider the possibility of transforming life's trials into triumphs.

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[UNKNOWN]: You can consistently steer through frustrations and setbacks always maximizing the chances of success.

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[UNKNOWN]: Seals and other high achievers, anyone who is adept in any circumstance, are fundamentally similar to everyone else.

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[UNKNOWN]: Their edge is simply that they harness innate yet often overlooked capabilities that we all possess.

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[UNKNOWN]: As masters of uncertainty, they are well-practiced experts of navigating the intrinsic unpredictability of life.

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[UNKNOWN]: and you can be one, too.

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[UNKNOWN]: Immigually requires a shift in perspective and applying one method that enables you to invigorate a suite of innate talents already within your grasp.

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[UNKNOWN]: Mastering uncertainty isn't akin to wielding a superpower.

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[UNKNOWN]: Over a decade of coaching elite performers has shown me that their standout performance doesn't stem from mysterious talents.

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[UNKNOWN]: And that right there is an excerpt from a book called Master's of uncertainty, the Navy seal way to turn stress into success for you and your team.

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[UNKNOWN]: The book is written by Rich Divini, who is a retired seal officer who led troops and combat directed operations.

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[UNKNOWN]: during 11 deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan and on top of his combat deployment to also over saw the assessment and selection process for the Navy's maritime component of the Joint Special Operations Command known as Jay Zack.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's been on this podcast before episode 374 when we discussed his life his experiences and his last and his first book

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[UNKNOWN]: and it's an honor to have him with us here again tonight to share some pointers on striving to become a master of uncertainty rich thanks for joining us again man thanks for having me back it's good to be here

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[UNKNOWN]: Notice I said striving to become a master because it's like, let's face it.

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[UNKNOWN]: The minute we start saying, we're a master of anything.

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[UNKNOWN]: You're not.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's when we get in trouble.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's right.

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[UNKNOWN]: And a human wrote Andrew, you were a doctor.

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[UNKNOWN]: Andrew, you were in wrote the forward.

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[UNKNOWN]: So you've, you've obviously, I know you guys are buddies.

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[UNKNOWN]: We've talked about that before, but a little forward by doctor Andrew, he was put not his word in the book.

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[UNKNOWN]: And it's interesting how many of the things that I was doing that I had no idea why I was doing them until I talked to him about a lot of that stuff and it realized that a lot of the things that I did and that we did and that we learned even though we didn't really know why we did it we might not know the physiology behind in a lot of situations but they work.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's a good place to start.

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[UNKNOWN]: When he and I first met, we immediately bonded because he was running his fear lab up there and Stanford.

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[UNKNOWN]: And his fear lab was really interesting.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's basically a VR room and he puts someone in a headset, look up up to nodes and things like that.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he could put the flavor of fear.

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[UNKNOWN]: whatever that person says.

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[UNKNOWN]: So, driving with great white sharks was one.

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[UNKNOWN]: I remember if you were afraid of heights, you could put you on the top of two buildings, you'd have to walk over, walk across a plank, attack by spiders, whatever it is.

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[UNKNOWN]: But then monitor the physiological effects of that.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I was certainly fascinated with what he was doing in the lab and then he was really fascinated with what we do in real war.

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[UNKNOWN]: How do we manage ourselves through this type of stuff?

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[UNKNOWN]: And that's when we really started collecting this information, kind of thinking about this stuff.

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[UNKNOWN]: And we thought about this.

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[UNKNOWN]: This book is actually a book I've always wanted to write.

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[UNKNOWN]: because we started working on this together.

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[UNKNOWN]: The attributes I wrote first and probably better because it was a lot of stuff.

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[UNKNOWN]: There's kind of a good foundation, but the attributes simply as we'll talk about is one element of what you need to know about yourself to actually step more effectively into uncertainty.

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[UNKNOWN]: Because it's never really going to be pretty.

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[UNKNOWN]: Even if you're, and like you said, you can't call yourself a master, but if you're really good at it, it's still not going to feel necessarily good.

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[UNKNOWN]: You're just going to be, you know how to move through it.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's the idea.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, 20 in Europe in the last book, the attributes you were talking about parachuting and your stand.

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[UNKNOWN]: You're talking about the fact that you don't like it, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't like this stuff.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I realized actually Chris Williamson asked me a question on his podcast, you know, about oh dealing with fear.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, go.

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[UNKNOWN]: And what I realized is, you know, you start off, they condition you to deal with fear.

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[UNKNOWN]: Because the first thing you have to do is climb over the

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[UNKNOWN]: And that's pretty tall.

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[UNKNOWN]: If you're scared of heights, that sucks.

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[UNKNOWN]: It does suck.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you.

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[UNKNOWN]: It does suck.

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[UNKNOWN]: Every time.

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[UNKNOWN]: And then it's the slide for life.

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[UNKNOWN]: We're kind of hanging yourself out over whatever 40 foot drop or something like that.

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[UNKNOWN]: And then you're going to repel out of the tower.

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[UNKNOWN]: And you're going to repel out of a helicopter.

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[UNKNOWN]: And then you're going to static line jump.

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[UNKNOWN]: And each one of those.

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[UNKNOWN]: And then you're going to free fall at night.

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[UNKNOWN]: They're going to free fall at night with comatic equipment.

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[UNKNOWN]: On O2, it's an escalation each time.

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[UNKNOWN]: And each time you learn how to overcome that thing, hopefully.

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I would say this, because the fear never leaves what you learn are the processes by what you can move through them, because, again, and I would, yeah, I would say there is, there is an element of truth to fear and occupation and stress and occupation, so what I would do for example of the cargo net, because I don't like heights, which is ironic, because I love flying, and I'm learning how to fly now, but I would literally time my runs to go past that cargo net, and I'd climb up it.

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[UNKNOWN]: and I just sit at the top and I breathe in that fear, you know, and I do that over and over again.

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[UNKNOWN]: And of course, as I did that, if I did that every day or, you know, for a couple of weeks, then slowly I would stop being as afraid up there.

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[UNKNOWN]: Um, so a fear inoculation does exist just like if we'd sometimes do jump trips and you'd like 50 jumps in a week, you know.

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[UNKNOWN]: by jump 50 you're not really thinking about the fear anymore.

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[UNKNOWN]: But take a break that tends to atrophy and the fear will come back.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so the secret I think to the success of training pipelines like the seals or any other hard core military unit is that they inadvertently teach you how to step through that stuff.

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[UNKNOWN]: Because again combat is going to be like that.

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[UNKNOWN]: You're not going to be able to expect what's coming on.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah and I was I was skiing last year and it was like in the spring and there wasn't much snow but there was like still some hard terrain and I was with another guy and he's a good skier I'm a good skier and we kind of got out on the sketchy sketchy piece of terrain and I'm looking down and it's a sketchy drop and you can see rocks and it's steep and there's no run out

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[UNKNOWN]: And I remember I started to have thoughts about like things that could happen.

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[UNKNOWN]: And then I just went I just like felt And if looking back I was like, oh, I just I felt some sort of hesitation and it was like, okay, go.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, because sitting up here is not gonna help you.

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[UNKNOWN]: You're gonna imagine all kinds of

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[UNKNOWN]: Torn ACLs and broken necks, and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so I just looking back.

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[UNKNOWN]: I realized, oh, yeah, whenever I was, you know, whether it was the cargo net or jumping out of a plane or going through a breach, I was always just like, go just just freaking go.

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, one of the aspects that's going on there, and it's kind of a side aspect of what I talk about on the book, although I do mention it, is that, and we'll talk about this combination of uncertainty plus anxiety, equaling fear, and how to combat those.

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[UNKNOWN]: But when we think about anxiety, anxiety is quite literally fiction, that's all it is.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's thinking about what's ahead.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's the future, which hasn't happened yet.

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[UNKNOWN]: Just like the past is history, the future's fiction.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so, so I tell people, one thing you'll never find Navy seals do is worry about shit they can't control.

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[UNKNOWN]: We did does does not preclude proper planning obviously plan, but we don't overplan we say okay on any Hop like five phases of an Hop we say okay, what are the two or three things that could happen?

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[UNKNOWN]: Let's have a plan for that after that.

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[UNKNOWN]: We'll just go But we don't sit in the helicopter while we're on Insert

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[UNKNOWN]: worrying too much about what's going to happen.

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[UNKNOWN]: We're thinking about stuff and we're worried about the moment or we're concerned and thinking about the moment because this fiction will drain our neural energy really well.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so to think about and create scenarios, you're literally living the future, you're living in a fictitious world that could happen, it couldn't happen.

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[UNKNOWN]: So you don't waste your time doing that.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Phil, sorry for those guys with good imaginations because they're

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[UNKNOWN]: because you know you're going out to fight in the cage and you know if it's the UFC and there's 20,000 people in the stands and there's millions of people watching and you might get KO'd.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like that can happen to anybody at any time.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's why they call it a puncher's chance.

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[UNKNOWN]: That can happen.

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[UNKNOWN]: And what I would tell these guys because they would worry about that.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I'd say you know when we would go out on an operation,

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[UNKNOWN]: There's a chance that despite all your planning, despite all your preparation, despite having all your SOPs dialed in, despite rehearsals, despite all that stuff, you can just drive down the road and hit a roadside ID and you lose U-Dye, or even worse, some of your friends dying, that's what's gonna happen.

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[UNKNOWN]: And if you worry about that, you're not focused on what you can actually impact and influence.

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[UNKNOWN]: So it's the same thing.

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[UNKNOWN]: If you're worried about getting knocked out, I mean, now what you should be focused on, keeping your hands up, you should be focused on your takedown defense.

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[UNKNOWN]: But there's all kinds of things you can, you can practically do that will help you in the situation.

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[UNKNOWN]: But worrying about a chance knockout is not one of them.

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[UNKNOWN]: Just like worrying about a chance ID, I don't know if that's even.

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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I don't know if you, I don't know how you deal with that.

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[UNKNOWN]: If you think every time, hey, I'm going to get blown up with an ID.

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[UNKNOWN]: This is probably going to happen to me today.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like, that's got a hurt.

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[UNKNOWN]: Although I did have one guy who, every operator, this is my first deployment to an act.

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[UNKNOWN]: Every operation that we went on, he will, he thought, he was going to die and we were all going to die.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he was going to, he might have been a Murphy's log guy.

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[UNKNOWN]: He just said I'm not going to let Murphy.

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[UNKNOWN]: He was so freaking classic because he'd be like,

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not feeling good about this one.

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[UNKNOWN]: Hey, hey boss, what's up with this one tonight?

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[UNKNOWN]: What you look at that route?

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, and every night, you know, he'd be in the vehicle because he was my jay tack.

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[UNKNOWN]: He'd be like sitting behind me in the vehicle and, you know, here it comes.

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[UNKNOWN]: Everything's gone to a bridge.

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[UNKNOWN]: It was great.

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[UNKNOWN]: I love that we used to scare the hell out of him too, because I think I see something.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, the whole mind yards.

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[UNKNOWN]: But point being, don't worry about things you can't control and focus on the things you can't control.

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[UNKNOWN]: So, masters of uncertainty, let's get into this book a little bit.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm jumping ahead.

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[UNKNOWN]: Our culture sees seldom see stress as an opportunity.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's uncomfortable and therefore unwanted.

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[UNKNOWN]: Itching for relief, we often react instinctively and counterproductively in two ways panic or procrastination.

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[UNKNOWN]: Panic happens when the discomfort becomes so intolerable that you're driven to quell it impulsively for giving the wisdom of a measured breath.

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[UNKNOWN]: Procrastination happens when the discomfort of auto...

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[UNKNOWN]: autonomic arousal or even just anticipation of it makes the task seem too daunting to confront head on.

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[UNKNOWN]: You take refuge in diversion and distraction while deep down secretly hope harboring hope that the trouble will untangle itself but this seldom happens.

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[UNKNOWN]: So these are two responses to stress.

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[UNKNOWN]: One of them is panic and the other one is procrastination.

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[UNKNOWN]: How's that look?

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, so we have to understand the autonomic arousal.

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[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, we get stressed, we get fear are a big deal against tickled, our autonomic arousal goes up.

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[UNKNOWN]: As our autonomic arousal goes up, and we approach that a big deal of hijack or the autonomic overload are frontal lobe.

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[UNKNOWN]: The decision making conscious decision making part of a brain is beginning to recede and our limbic brain, our lizard brain, to start to come to the fore.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so what happens in those cases of autonomic overload, or a Miguel hijack, is that now our frontal lobe has taken a complete backseat, and we are acting without thinking that can manifest in a couple different ways.

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[UNKNOWN]: Now, neuroscientists, like you will say, that that freeze, there's not, that that freeze behavior is more of an oscillation as to whether or not you're going to fight or flight.

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[UNKNOWN]: But in the case of full autonomic overload or mega hijacked, you are literally acting without thinking.

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[UNKNOWN]: Now, like I say, this comes in handy when you're jumping out of the way of the moving train or running from the bear.

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[UNKNOWN]: But in 99% of cases in modern world, you want your front to low-binggaged to make decisions as you're doing it.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so that allows us to act.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so we just have to be aware that those responses are coming from an autonomic arousal stress.

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[UNKNOWN]: But the good news is as we'll get into, you can control that.

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[UNKNOWN]: You can actually bring your frontal lobe to the fore and begin stepping through and making decisions.

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[UNKNOWN]: So you can suffer no longer from either panic or procrastination.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we did a podcast a little while ago, and it was one of the most interesting thing about this is physiologically your body will stop sending blood to your frontal cortex where you think and it will send the blood and therefore oxygen and therefore energy to your amygdala.

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[UNKNOWN]: So your amygdala is

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[UNKNOWN]: literally taking over your prefrontal cortex and your ability to think and that's why you know you get someone when something stressful happens and they don't really they reacted to it and they don't really remember why don't even remember what happened you know sometimes you were talking to somebody that did uh cutaway parachuting yeah depending on how good they are at parachuting sometimes you're like oh man I don't know I just saw I just I'm next thing you know I was under reserve but they did all their things properly but they just did they just did them without even thinking they just did it

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[UNKNOWN]: And, or people get into a fight, or someone gets in their face, and they just do something, it's like, full, amygdala hijack, no thought process happening.

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[UNKNOWN]: And this is where, this is, by the way, we're training matters, because if you train to a level of mastery, like in this seals, we say, shoot, moving, communicate.

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[UNKNOWN]: Those are the three elemental things we train to, to master in any environment, because when we are, when we fall back to that very raw elemental thing, if we happen to be,

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[UNKNOWN]: acting without thinking.

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[UNKNOWN]: We want to actually lean upon those muscle memory things we've trained.

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[UNKNOWN]: So the guy who does the cutaway does all those procedures because he's trained himself to actually do that reactively instinctively which is great without thought without his prefrontal cortex.

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[UNKNOWN]: But that's hard to get to.

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[UNKNOWN]: You have to you have to do there's a lot of work that that it takes to get to that level.

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[UNKNOWN]: And what I'm saying is we don't all have to be that way and oh by the way in true uncertainty.

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[UNKNOWN]: you can't do it anyway because you can't predict on certainty.

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[UNKNOWN]: So how can we actually leverage those things about our physiology that allow us to actually take control in the moment?

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[UNKNOWN]: Back to the book here, but it doesn't always have to be this way.

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[UNKNOWN]: In fact, it wasn't meant to be this way in truth.

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[UNKNOWN]: Autotomic arousal is a call to arms.

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[UNKNOWN]: It is a mobilizing force.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's your body offering you alertness and energy meant to equip you to tackle perceived threats.

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[UNKNOWN]: Hence jumping out of the way of a car running from a bear.

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[UNKNOWN]: The great news is that you're innately prepared to transform this stress response from a hindrance that hurts your performance into a surge of vitality that propels it forward.

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[UNKNOWN]: You can embrace and channel your body's energy pairing it with composure and strategic control.

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[UNKNOWN]: How?

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[UNKNOWN]: By tapping into a primal capability you already possess that I call moving horizons.

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[UNKNOWN]: So talk to us about moving horizons.

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[UNKNOWN]: So moving horizons.

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[UNKNOWN]: So to kind of go back to this definition, one of the things you've been here bringing

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[UNKNOWN]: Fear is the result of two specific things on certain deep-less anxiety.

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[UNKNOWN]: In other words, you could have one or the other.

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[UNKNOWN]: You don't necessarily have fear.

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[UNKNOWN]: You can be anxious without being uncertain.

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[UNKNOWN]: So that might be I have a presentation to give next week.

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[UNKNOWN]: I know the presentation, I know the people I'm giving to.

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[UNKNOWN]: So there's no real uncertainty there.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm just anxious about it.

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[UNKNOWN]: Not real fear.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, you can be uncertain without being anxious.

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's every kid on Christmas Eve.

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, we know there's no fear there, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: So it's when you combine the two that you get fear and this is the type of uncertainty that I'm talking about that we want to Really start to work against because fear that fear based stuff is going to hinder us and so so what the so the strategy becomes if you if on certainty plus anxiety equals fear

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[UNKNOWN]: then to buy down the fear, we need to buy down one or both of those equations, buy down uncertainty and or buy down anxiety.

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[UNKNOWN]: So moving horizons is quite literally a neurological way we can buy down uncertainty.

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[UNKNOWN]: The way it works is it focuses on the three elements of our environment that our brain is automatically in every situation trying to figure out.

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[UNKNOWN]: those reallaments are duration, how long is it going to last?

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[UNKNOWN]: Pathway, what's my route in out or through and then outcome?

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[UNKNOWN]: What's the end state?

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[UNKNOWN]: Now, if we are in absence of one or more of those three things, we begin to feel that stress, that fear, that stuff bubble up.

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[UNKNOWN]: So here's a good example would be illness.

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[UNKNOWN]: So, for example, Strapthroat is an illness we all know, most of us have had Strapthroat.

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[UNKNOWN]: We know there's an antibiotic that can cure Strapthroat.

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[UNKNOWN]: So if we get Strapthroat, we are only the absence of one of those things.

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[UNKNOWN]: We know the pathway antibiotic, we know the outcome we're going to get better.

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[UNKNOWN]: What we don't know necessarily is duration because it might take you four days to respond to the antibiotics, it might take me seven days.

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[UNKNOWN]: Our anxiety and certainty level is mild.

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[UNKNOWN]: Now let's take the flu with flu is also a known disease and most modern countries we recover from the flu.

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[UNKNOWN]: We don't die from it, but there's no known cures for the flu, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: There's a lot of people who have ideas and we can do for the flu, but there's no nothing you can take.

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[UNKNOWN]: So if we have the flu, then we are an absence of two reps.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's a pathway, and we're absence of duration.

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[UNKNOWN]: All we know is outcomes, or our anxiety, or answering levels, mild, moderate.

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[UNKNOWN]: Now let's think about a disease showing up on the planet we've never seen before We don't there's no vaccine.

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[UNKNOWN]: There's no cure some people are dying.

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[UNKNOWN]: Some people are not right?

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[UNKNOWN]: We don't know how long this is gonna last okay enter 2020.

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[UNKNOWN]: This is COVID and all of us were an absence immediately of all three This is when we have this full blown kind of okay what the hell's going on?

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[UNKNOWN]: What moving horizons does is it allows us to generate certainty in our environment in the moment by focusing on something that we can then anchor on and move to.

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[UNKNOWN]: So the example would be, we're in, you know, we're in Buds and I know this happened to you too, but obviously your listeners know as much about, you know, they know a lot about Buds, you're carrying those damn boats forever, especially in how we call the time.

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[UNKNOWN]: I remember during hell week, it was some time, I don't know, three or four in the morning, one of those days.

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[UNKNOWN]: And we're on the beach, Karen, these boats, we're next to the San Berm, and I remember saying to myself, I was miserable saying myself, you know what, I'm just going to focus on getting to the end of the San Berm.

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[UNKNOWN]: Now what I did in that moment was I picked up her eyes in an essence created my own DPL, my own duration, pathway outcome, duration from now until end of San Berm.

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[UNKNOWN]: Pathway from here to end of San Berm, and then I'll come in of San Berm.

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[UNKNOWN]: And in doing so, I manipulated my dopamine system, which we'll talk about in more depth, but I also created a reward so that when I conducted, when I finished that and I completed that task, I got another dopamine hit and allowed me to come back out and pick a new horizon.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so what moving horizon is, it's basically a step-by-step process where we're picking something to focus on, generating certainty, we're moving to it, we're registering a reward and we're doing it again.

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[UNKNOWN]: And we can do that over and over and over to cyclical cycle there that we can do over and over again until one of three things happens.

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[UNKNOWN]: Either we've moved through everything, there's no more, we've moved through the challenge or stress, we've accomplished our goal, or there's no more, we've generated enough certainty

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[UNKNOWN]: And so it's quite literally, when people ask me and I know you get it all the time, people, you know, young men ask you, how can I go to Buds, maybe they want to get help, or they say, what's the advice for Buds?

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, should I get cold?

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[UNKNOWN]: Should I like sit in the ice bath and I was like, you can't rehearse cold, but this is the secret.

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[UNKNOWN]: This is what all of us do.

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[UNKNOWN]: We talk about not worrying about shit we can't control.

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[UNKNOWN]: The reason why that selection process is so genius is because

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[UNKNOWN]: What's coming?

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[UNKNOWN]: You will quit and I know they've done exit interviews.

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[UNKNOWN]: They started doing this about a decade or more ago, which they should have been done for doing for years by the way.

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[UNKNOWN]: Um, of guys who quit asking them why they quit and one of the most common common, uh, comments from guys who quit is.

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[UNKNOWN]: We had been doing XYZ.

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[UNKNOWN]: We were doing XYZ and I couldn't imagine doing XYZ for a while.

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[UNKNOWN]: forever, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: I could they could not, they, they were too focused on too far for horizon.

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[UNKNOWN]: And we all know, I mean, the saying at Buds is if you, on hell week, is if you think about Friday on Monday, you're going to quit.

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[UNKNOWN]: We all know that this secret is we never worried.

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[UNKNOWN]: Why remember being in hell week?

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[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, I would just, I worried about what I was doing the moment.

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[UNKNOWN]: I didn't worry about what the next thing was.

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[UNKNOWN]: I didn't, I just, I just picked the moment.

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[UNKNOWN]: I was picking my horizons constantly.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I think all of us who make it through, and

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[UNKNOWN]: have somewhere in our lives trained to this to some extent to some extent so that we were prepared to do it because if you don't if you're not able to do it at the extreme levels you'll quit.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah I don't remember going through hell week a little bit I don't remember I don't remember much of Buds be honest again.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's like a long time ago.

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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you well, yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, so we've been 30 years to be probably about 30 years.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I was y'all how old were you in the Buds?

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[UNKNOWN]: 22.

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

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[UNKNOWN]: I was I was like 19.

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[UNKNOWN]: But I remember just like, whatever, I wasn't thinking about anything in the future.

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[UNKNOWN]: I was just like, what are we doing right now and having a good time with what we're doing right now?

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, we're going to do rockboard at school, like stroke, stroke.

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[UNKNOWN]: I felt no impending weight from the future at all, like at all.

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[UNKNOWN]: And that's pretty much the way I felt through most of Buds.

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[UNKNOWN]: There was no impending

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[UNKNOWN]: Like I can't believe how long is this gonna last?

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[UNKNOWN]: How long will we be doing this?

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[UNKNOWN]: I didn't think about that all I just go to what are we doing right now?

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay cool I want me to run over this berm.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm running over this berm And I don't even know what they're gonna ask us to do nascues.

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[UNKNOWN]: They could ask us to do it a thousand more times or one more time It didn't I didn't think either one of those you were thinking in the moment

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[UNKNOWN]: You're thinking, and you're picking on horizons based on you now the horizons have to be subjective to us as individuals because and and also the intensity of the environment.

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[UNKNOWN]: So for example, freezing in the surf zone.

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[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes the horizon is really close.

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[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes the horizon can move out freezing the surf zone.

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[UNKNOWN]: My horizon was I'm just in account 10 waves sometimes you know whatever that was, but the reason why that's the case is because what we're doing with our dopamine system when we pick our horizon is we're actually

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[UNKNOWN]: using Dope mean to engage in the act of the goal.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I know you've had, here, here we're in another zone talking about Dope.

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[UNKNOWN]: But Dope mean as much more than just a reward chemical.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's a motivation chemical.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so they've done this experiments with this experiment with rats.

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[UNKNOWN]: They put a rat in an enclosure.

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[UNKNOWN]: And in that enclosure, there's a device where the rat just has to tap this lever and a tasty pellet comes out.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so of course the rat just sits next to that lever and just taps it over and over and gets that tasty pellet.

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[UNKNOWN]: Then of course they move the rat to the other side.

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[UNKNOWN]: The enclosure, the rat runs over and starts tapping it again.

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[UNKNOWN]: But then they removed the dopamine from the rat and what they did was once they did that They put the rat just a rat's length away from that Device the rat never moved the rat would have actually sat there and starved if they've let it right so they recognize that dopamine

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[UNKNOWN]: it engages upon the act of the goal.

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[UNKNOWN]: And why does this matter?

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[UNKNOWN]: It's because if we pick a horizon that's too far out, then we are going to run out of dopamine before we get there.

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[UNKNOWN]: And we will quit.

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[UNKNOWN]: Anytime we've quit anything, it's because we've run out of dopamine.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so, and if we could pick a horizon that's too short, by the way, we won't register enough of a reward.

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[UNKNOWN]: We have like that didn't really feel that.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so, and so these horizons have to be subjective to us.

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[UNKNOWN]: And what's happening?

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[UNKNOWN]: to those of us who actually make it through is we're constantly managing the horizon in a meaningful way.

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[UNKNOWN]: Um, these guys who quit, they have, they have not, they've picked too far of a horizon, and so they quit before they get there.

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[UNKNOWN]: Um, in fact, the instructors will capitalize on this.

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[UNKNOWN]: Now it's unconscious genius as most stuff in the field.

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[UNKNOWN]: People just, you know, but I know you're friends with Andy Stump, and I was talking to him about this.

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[UNKNOWN]: He was an instructor.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he said he would literally, because he used second phase, but of course he'd do shifts.

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[UNKNOWN]: he would literally just deliberately fuck with guys and be like hey we're gonna be doing this all night you know or hey just stand by because this is the whole week we're gonna I mean he what they're doing is they're constantly messing with our horizons they do it micro they do it micro ways to us and we all know and buds well again for the audience I think it's third phase every time the instructor says drop you have to do 30 second phase is 40 and third phase is 50 pushups right and so court instructors will just walk by and say drop and you have to do 30 pushups or 40 whatever

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[UNKNOWN]: But then what they'll do is they'll watch you doing push-ups and what do they inevitably do when you hit 29?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, start again.

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[UNKNOWN]: Start again, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: And so they are deliberately messing with your own internal DPOs and forcing you to pick other ones.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so the guys who get really good at this are the guys who make it through.

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[UNKNOWN]: And we don't, we start to not pay attention to other peoples.

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[UNKNOWN]: forced DPOs.

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[UNKNOWN]: We start to manage our own dopamine system and say, okay, I mean, for some of us, it was 10 waves.

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[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes it was, make the next meal.

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[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes it was like, well, just see how this works out.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it could be anything, but we're, we're constantly modulating those.

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[UNKNOWN]: And here's the good news.

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[UNKNOWN]: The good news is you don't have to get it right the first time.

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[UNKNOWN]: You can pick a horizon if it feels too far in the moment, you can pull that horizon in.

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[UNKNOWN]: Anybody who's worked out has done this, okay?

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[UNKNOWN]: You get, you start your set, whatever bench or whatever, you're going to do 12 reps, you get to 18, you're like, okay, just four more.

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[UNKNOWN]: What you've done in that moment is you've pulled that horizon in and it works psychologically, because you've just pulled that horizon and reset it and you're doing four more.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so,

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[UNKNOWN]: Anybody can practice this.

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[UNKNOWN]: You can do it any in any environment.

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[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't have to be an uncertainty to do it.

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[UNKNOWN]: But if you do this in uncertainty, what you're doing is you're mitigating that one factor of the equation.

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[UNKNOWN]: You're generating certainty by focusing on something.

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[UNKNOWN]: I am certain about this.

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[UNKNOWN]: You're moving to it and you're picking something else.

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[UNKNOWN]: You ever heard like some people say, hey, if you have some goal announced it to everyone and tell everyone that you have this goal and other people say, hey, if you have a goal, keep it to yourself.

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[UNKNOWN]: These are, you know, internet gurus, say these things all the, all the, confidently, both sides.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, confidently, both sides.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm sure there's some sort of examples or something that they lived.

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[UNKNOWN]: But one thing I have seen is people that,

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[UNKNOWN]: they get the dopamine hit from talking about doing something.

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[UNKNOWN]: So someone, you know, I'm writing a book and when they say that, it sort of gives them the reward that they're looking for of like, now, you know, now Rich knows that I'm writing a book and he thinks that I'm pretty, you know, he's impressed with that.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's got to think I'm a pretty disciplined guy because I'm, you know, hunker and down and writing a book or I'm, you know, so you have to watch out for that.

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[UNKNOWN]: I remember a guy's that would talk about going to Buds when I was in boot camp, you know, like they talked about it a lot.

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[UNKNOWN]: And that was enough.

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[UNKNOWN]: They got enough dopamine right there.

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[UNKNOWN]: They say, I'm going a bud to do and I'd be like, Oh, do you want to do some like squats and jumping to actually me?

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I got to make my better whatever.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so yeah, you got to be careful.

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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know which one of those is right there.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure there's situations where both those are right, you know, I think certainly putting yourself out there in the world and

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[UNKNOWN]: claiming you're going to achieve something is a really exaggerated form of that and I think that might be beneficial for some people and also other people that are like I'm not telling anyone this is I'm just going to make this thing happen and everyone's going to look up one day and here's the book that I wrote or whatever right well Here's here's where I will say I think if I were to if I were to guess It has probably something to do with our level of ensucians now ensucians is an attribute we talked about it's in the book

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[UNKNOWN]: Insucience is an attribute that is defined as the the indifference or casual indifference of caring what people think.

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[UNKNOWN]: So in other words, person who's high in insucience is the person who walks around life and they just don't seem to care what other people think.

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[UNKNOWN]: They are the

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[UNKNOWN]: They march to the be their own drum.

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[UNKNOWN]: They just do their own thing and we know those people.

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[UNKNOWN]: They're just they're out there They're often they're often you know quite a kind of classic.

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[UNKNOWN]: They they set trends.

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[UNKNOWN]: They're often quite attractive to I mean They're like they're bees to honey people or tractor that Lower insuciance folks.

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[UNKNOWN]: We're the type of folks who walk around and when we we look around and we gauge We try to gauge what people are thinking and we actually adjust our behavior

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[UNKNOWN]: Now, I would maintain that most navy seals are lower on the ensucian scale, and the reason is because a lot of what we do is based upon, oh, I'm not going to look bad in front of my teammates, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, a classic classic thing you'll hear from guys who didn't quit buds is, why didn't you quit?

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[UNKNOWN]: There's like there was no fucking way I was going to get up and ring that bell.

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[UNKNOWN]: I was not going to be that guy, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: I'd jump out of it.

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[UNKNOWN]: Why did I hate a jumping out of airplanes?

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[UNKNOWN]: Why did I do it hundreds of times?

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[UNKNOWN]: The guy next to me was doing it.

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[UNKNOWN]: There's no way I was not going to do that, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: So I think the reason why this matters is for the lower insuciance person, the person who cares, they can announce a goal and part of their drive will be, hey, I announce this, I can't, I can't now not do it, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: Because they care what people think.

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[UNKNOWN]: Your higher insuciance person is not going to give a fuck, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: They're going to be like, yeah, I announce about I don't care.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm just my own person.

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[UNKNOWN]: So that might have, I'm not saying that's the answer, but I think that might be why it works for someone doesn't work for other people.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, when they brought the bell to Buds, that was the reason that they brought it was because when in the old days before they had the bell, when you quit, you just kind of walked around the back and you just disappeared.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so the instructors and it was actually specifically one guy said it, who's in charge of the face said, wait a second, if I make this for lack of a word like a humiliating process, visible humiliating process where you have to stand up and front of everyone say, I'm

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[UNKNOWN]: And it seemed to help from what they said and of course then they took the bell away for a little while because it was too humiliating and all this stuff But then they brought it back.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know what's interesting is had a two it had a dual effect because on one side It had an effect on the person who's quitting But on the other side what did when you heard the bell when you were in buds or hell week?

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[UNKNOWN]: How did you feel?

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[UNKNOWN]: Um, we got their power

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[UNKNOWN]: I felt I'm still here right I am so so it actually every time I heard the bell it pumped me up They gave me more energy and so so it actually I think it's a brilliant again unconscious genius Brilliant addition because on one hand, it's it's forcing a candidate It's a really come to terms with the fact that they are willing to and again we don't

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[UNKNOWN]: I want to emphasize, we don't judge people, whatever.

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[UNKNOWN]: For us, it's like, hey, if you don't want to be here, that's fine.

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[UNKNOWN]: We'd rather you make that decision, we're respect you for trying.

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[UNKNOWN]: And, oh, by the way, it's a super small percentage of guys who actually get to the beaches of Bud.

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[UNKNOWN]: So, we have ultimate respect for anybody who tries.

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[UNKNOWN]: However, it pumps us up, man, when you see all those helmets and you're in hell, I remember it was probably Tuesday morning or Wednesday morning hell, I think the cold one of the coldest nights was Tuesday or month anyway.

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[UNKNOWN]: I remember being a breakfast, being a child, and looking around and being like, they must have the rest of the class out doing stuff because this is not all of us, and it didn't hit me until later, it was like, oh so many people had quit that it's just us now, you know, it pumps you up.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's like a video game where you kill someone and you get their power.

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[UNKNOWN]: You don't say that's that.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, David Goggins, so crushing souls or taking people souls or someone that is kind of that.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's all related to something.

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[UNKNOWN]: Jack, I'm going to fast forward a little bit.

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[UNKNOWN]: You got three additional ideas.

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[UNKNOWN]: Number one, the difference between planning and worrying.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: We hit that.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's good to plan, but you don't overplan.

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[UNKNOWN]: If you overplan, it's paralysis through analysis and you say, and what what planning does in in small chunks is it allows you to commit to certainty and mastery, some SOPs, like, hey, if this happens, I don't

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[UNKNOWN]: I've it allows you to close that uncertainty count in other words if this or this happens We know we'll do this that closes that uncertainty cone which means I can now open that Aperture for other things I can't can't see coming.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's like this.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's like the what five or six parachute malfunctions you rehearse So that if something happens that you've never seen before is like, okay, I have all of my brain that I could use to put to the scene I was though, you know

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[UNKNOWN]: number two, accept your limits.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's a good one to think about.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I think what I try to say in that is that nothing, you know, if we think we're invincible, if we think we, if we don't accept the fact that we are our, what are our,

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[UNKNOWN]: probably going to fail on certain things and not achieve, then we're setting ourselves up for failure.

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[UNKNOWN]: Nothing's perfect and, by the way, it's going to suck no matter what.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I was kind of tapping this a little bit from a leadership perspective when someone, you know, I'm working with Echo and we're on a project and Echo is not really doing what he's supposed to be doing so I try to take stuff off his plate trying to help him try to support him and at some point I can't really I can't really do anything else.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I say, Hey, Rich, you're my boss.

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[UNKNOWN]: Hey, I need another guy, why do you need another guy?

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, here's what I'm doing.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I've reached kind of my limits.

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, isn't Echo's supposed to be doing that?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but Echo's at his limits over here.

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[UNKNOWN]: So can you give me someone else?

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[UNKNOWN]: And because if I just bury myself in all of the work, I'm not going to be successful at a certain point.

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[UNKNOWN]: You have to say, Hey, this is my max capacity.

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[UNKNOWN]: And by the way, Rich, if you don't want to give me someone else, OK, here's some...

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[UNKNOWN]: Here's what I need to prioritize.

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[UNKNOWN]: Do you want this or do you want that right?

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[UNKNOWN]: Do you need it this now or that later and we got to figure that out because everyone has limitations And there's only so many man hours in the day to make stuff happen.

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[UNKNOWN]: So something that every we all have to do

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[UNKNOWN]: I'll also let me add to that, because I'll give the master to all sorts of different organizations and teams and businesses, and I was doing a workshop at one point and one of the guys, I was doing several, so I did the uncertainty one the day before the next day comes back.

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[UNKNOWN]: I was using the horizon thing, I was I did it for email, and it was really hard for me.

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[UNKNOWN]: I couldn't go longer than five minutes on like, you know, focusing, and I said, well, this is part of accepting your limits.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we are in a society now where the

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[UNKNOWN]: the dopamine injections that we are able to get on a consistent basis are immense.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, just the the doom scrolling is an example of that.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so some people may find themselves having to set very, very short horizons.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's okay.

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[UNKNOWN]: As long as you're practicing that, you can extend those out later on, but but accepting the fact that, you know, it's not a much easier one to do with the Z-mail.

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[UNKNOWN]: He wanted to focus on getting them done.

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[UNKNOWN]: So I said, well, focus on just this email.

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[UNKNOWN]: Don't block out everything else.

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[UNKNOWN]: Answer this to your best of your bill.

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[UNKNOWN]: And then go to the next one.

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[UNKNOWN]: And he just found himself.

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[UNKNOWN]: His attention was getting pulled, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: So which is a common, it's a common thing, a common occurrence, and especially in today's environment.

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[UNKNOWN]: So just, I say, usually if you want to practice focusing, you could put a clock.

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[UNKNOWN]: timer and you can set it and only I'll set it for half hours or no, no, no, no, half hours probably too much for you right.

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[UNKNOWN]: You might have to set it for five minutes or two minutes or whatever and just start feeling what it feels like to achieve that horizon and set anyone.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, um, and the last one three help your brain help you and this is getting back to the front of low bees.

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[UNKNOWN]: We are, the good news is I'm sure everyone, everybody who's listening to this right now can think of an example where they've done this naturally.

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[UNKNOWN]: In other words, we are designed to do this, to move horizons.

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[UNKNOWN]: We're designed to chunk our environments because our brains are constantly looking for certainty.

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[UNKNOWN]: So the idea is let your natural processes take over.

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[UNKNOWN]: Um, and if you are picking horizons as well, what's happening is you are stemming that retreat of your frontal lobe, because you're forcing your frontal lobe to focus on something and make a decision.

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[UNKNOWN]: So, so help your brain help you means your brain wants to, wants to do right by you.

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[UNKNOWN]: Because by the way, even if you do reach autonomic arousal, or overload, or a midgal hijack, and you do jump out of the way of the moving train without thinking, your brain just helped you, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: And so, um, so help it along.

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[UNKNOWN]: So yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Next section here, actualize your neurology with better questions to remain grounded in the sphere of what you know and control cultivate a habit of asking yourself better questions.

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[UNKNOWN]: When you introduce and by the way, obviously I'm skipping chunks of the book, get the book, I'm skipping a bunch of stuff we can talk through it, but a lot of detail that I'm skipping, so get the book so you can get the detail.

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[UNKNOWN]: When you introduce a question into Conscious Thought, the mind is compelled to come up with answers.

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[UNKNOWN]: The problem is that it's all too common to default to reactive, negative, and sometimes emotion-laden questions, such as why am I so bad at this or why can't I succeed?

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[UNKNOWN]: Your brain will immediately begin to give you these answers.

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[UNKNOWN]: yet the answers will not lead to enlightenment.

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[UNKNOWN]: Rather they will spiral you into further negativity and anxiety.

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[UNKNOWN]: Masters of uncertainty steer their thoughts with better, more effective questions, questions that center on what they can, ascertain in influence.

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[UNKNOWN]: Well aware that knowledge morphs into power, they prime their minds with inquiries like, what do I know?

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[UNKNOWN]: What can I control?

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[UNKNOWN]: The brain can't help but answer these questions in ways that put you at the helm.

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[UNKNOWN]: Why do I suck at this?

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, our brain does that.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we, uh, we are brain will answer any question we put it, uh, put into it.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I do exercise with, with teams.

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[UNKNOWN]: I say, I give them 30 seconds.

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[UNKNOWN]: I say, okay, answer this question.

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[UNKNOWN]: How can I, how can I double my income in the next six months?

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[UNKNOWN]: And I say, I give them 30 seconds and I say anything that pops into your head right down.

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[UNKNOWN]: And they do.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I, and I don't even ask for the answers even though I'm super curious.

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[UNKNOWN]: I say, how many things did you write down?

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[UNKNOWN]: And most of you get five, six things.

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[UNKNOWN]: And the reason why that is because whatever we ask our brain,

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[UNKNOWN]: our brain will begin to give us the answers.

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[UNKNOWN]: If you ask yourself why am I so pissed off, you're going to get some phenomenal reasons as to why you're pissed off.

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[UNKNOWN]: However, if you ask yourself why am I grateful or what can I do better, you're going to get those answers as well.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so it's really your, it's kind of a reframing tool, but you're, you're, you're working with your neurology.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, teams, we do that.

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[UNKNOWN]: And we, we, our, our natural debrief is what wouldn't write what wouldn't wrong, what could we do better, but we don't focus on what wouldn't wrong.

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[UNKNOWN]: you know, we focus on all three because we know that these avenues are, they can be, they can be sinkholes if we let them and, and that's not how we operate themselves.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, when situations are scenarios in business, in life are getting, I'm watching them kind of start to morph into something that is going to be negative, you know, sometimes I just go back to a situation, you know, situation, mission, admins like Smiac, let's just get back to the basics

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[UNKNOWN]: Hold on a second.

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[UNKNOWN]: Hold on.

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[UNKNOWN]: Everyone stop.

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[UNKNOWN]: What's the situation?

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[UNKNOWN]: We're right now.

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[UNKNOWN]: Let's just talk through that.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

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[UNKNOWN]: Now.

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[UNKNOWN]: What is our mission?

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

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[UNKNOWN]: How are we going to execute that?

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[UNKNOWN]: And that right there.

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[UNKNOWN]: I've pulled myself for my teams out of a lot of bad scenarios just by saying, Hey, okay.

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[UNKNOWN]: Everyone stop.

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[UNKNOWN]: because what are they worried about?

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[UNKNOWN]: Like they're worried about beyond the situation that we're in.

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[UNKNOWN]: They're thinking about the situation that we might be and that we could end up in.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's anxiety.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's all that best of a whole lot.

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[UNKNOWN]: What's the situation we're in now?

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

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[UNKNOWN]: What is our mission?

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[UNKNOWN]: Because now we're thinking we're trying to solve a thing that we created in our mind that's negative.

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[UNKNOWN]: We're trying to come up with a mission to solve.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's not even where we're at right now.

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[UNKNOWN]: What are you doing right now?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.

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[UNKNOWN]: What do I know?

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[UNKNOWN]: What can I control?

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[UNKNOWN]: That's a very first question and that anchors you.

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[UNKNOWN]: I've done this with my boys before.

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[UNKNOWN]: They're stressed out about something and they're like, you know, going off, whatever.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's okay.

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[UNKNOWN]: Stop.

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[UNKNOWN]: What do we know?

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[UNKNOWN]: What can we control right now?

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[UNKNOWN]: And you anchor that certainty.

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[UNKNOWN]: And you basically you're creating certainty and thereby negating that equation of fear.

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[UNKNOWN]: By the way, this is the best example this or one of the best I heard someone I heard Buzz Aldrin being interviewed.

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[UNKNOWN]: about him and Neil Armstrong going to the moon, or landing the lunar module on the moon, and the question was, hey, when you were landing in that process where you were afraid, and he said, no, I wasn't afraid because, you know, I was so focused on what I was doing.

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[UNKNOWN]: He had, you know, the meery to things could have happened.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they could have been trapped there, whatever.

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[UNKNOWN]: All he could focus on was what this, what I was doing in the moment.

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[UNKNOWN]: I think you probably can attest to this.

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[UNKNOWN]: I've been asked if I was ever, if there were times in my career where

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[UNKNOWN]: And I answer very honestly and I say no and that does that's not because I'm macho That's me.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm I'm cooler whatever.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's because in those moments All I was doing was solving the current problem.

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[UNKNOWN]: I was moving from one thing to the other to the other now What's interesting about and I'm sure you've had this experience is Sometimes I'd get back from that mission

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[UNKNOWN]: all the debriefs were done, all the stuff I was back in my hooch by myself, I'm like holy shit that was close and all that fear would come back, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: But that's a much better place to experience the fear once it's done and over with.

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[UNKNOWN]: But the reason why, so we're almost delaying the fear because we're focused on the moment.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would have the experience to of rolling to a target, so you're in vehicles, you're in a pretty, you know, sure you can get ID, but you're going to a target.

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[UNKNOWN]: And that's when I would have the most like, oh, what could go wrong?

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[UNKNOWN]: What's going to happen when I breach this bad guys waiting for us?

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[UNKNOWN]: I hope my guys don't get hurt.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like all that stuff, and then once the breach goes, you're just like, you know, not know, again, no fear and like you're saying not to say I'm not afraid of anything, but you're definitely not thinking about fear.

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[UNKNOWN]: You're thinking about doing your job right now.

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[UNKNOWN]: This what we got going on.

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[UNKNOWN]: Hey, hold on.

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[UNKNOWN]: But that room's secured.

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[UNKNOWN]: Hey, let's get people on the other rooftop.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like we're just, you have a job to do, you're just focused on it, but prior to, I would feel like, oh, the knot in my stomach sometimes of, hey, I hope everything goes well.

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[UNKNOWN]: And then when you get back, you're like, ooh.

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[UNKNOWN]: God's a frogman.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know the counterfactual thinking comes in what if what if that it happened right?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but again, what you what you just described is actually a really indicative of this process working well And that is you were in a specific phase in the mission.

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[UNKNOWN]: I can remember being a GFC or whatever is doing the same thing

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[UNKNOWN]: Where in that phase you're asking yourself, okay, what could go wrong right now?

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[UNKNOWN]: What do I need to worry about right now?

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[UNKNOWN]: This is gonna happen as I'm rolling a boom boom boom.

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[UNKNOWN]: Breach goes phases over.

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[UNKNOWN]: You put all that stuff away and now you're saying, okay, now, what can I ensure?

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[UNKNOWN]: You're literally creating your own horizons and compartmentalizing your thought process.

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[UNKNOWN]: And it's not like you're asking, you're not asking what ifs.

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[UNKNOWN]: But all of your what ifs are very anchored in the present moment or present or anchored in what your responsibility is, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: So,

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[UNKNOWN]: So this is very, and your frontal loaves engage the whole time.

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[UNKNOWN]: So it, it, it really, really works.

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[UNKNOWN]: And most people can do it or have done it.

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[UNKNOWN]: We just have to practice this stuff.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: And the more you conscious of what you're doing, the better you'll get out of it.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Chapter two, keep going.

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[UNKNOWN]: And you've got a section here fast forward, the grit myth.

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[UNKNOWN]: Many harbor misconception I refer to as the grit myth, the belief that sheer willpower and unyielding effort are the keys to overcoming challenges, as if depleting one's energy is a badge of honor.

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[UNKNOWN]: They often assume high achievers have an almost supernatural amount of stamina that exceeds normal bounds.

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[UNKNOWN]: This is a fallacy.

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[UNKNOWN]: What's the reality?

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, the reality is it always sucks, you know, if people, I mean, it's just not, you know, we're, we're, it's like, we're, it's like, it's like the cold.

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[UNKNOWN]: So by the way, one of the best and humor, and I actually thought of this, one of the best places, one can rehearse the, the moving horizons process is in the ice bath, because the ice bath sucks.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I always joke and I know this for you.

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[UNKNOWN]: I have a nice bath of my garage and I dread every single time I'm getting into that thing.

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[UNKNOWN]: I hate it.

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

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[UNKNOWN]: And as one guy say, hey, should I get in the ice bath?

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[UNKNOWN]: Like you can't rehearse the cold.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's like we're rehearsing getting kicked in the night so you can't do that.

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[UNKNOWN]: Right.

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[UNKNOWN]: So, so the idea is it's not just about gutting it out.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's about actually applying processes.

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[UNKNOWN]: so that you may actually move through that effectively.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, being tough, being just tough.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I guess you know, you can be tough and dumb and maybe, but that's because you're just, your brain's offering a different level.

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[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, it's not gonna be easy.

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[UNKNOWN]: If you're gonna be stupid, you gotta be tough.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's right.

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[UNKNOWN]: That whole thing.

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[UNKNOWN]: I use that all the time.

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[UNKNOWN]: If you're gonna be dumb, you better be hard.

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[UNKNOWN]: Fast forward to truly harness motivation, one must appropriately engage with the body's inherent drive system.

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[UNKNOWN]: This concept, combined with the strategy of moving horizons, resonates a profound, instinctual level.

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[UNKNOWN]: Set meaningful horizons.

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[UNKNOWN]: A meaningful horizon is judiciously sized, and this is what you already talked about.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's challenging enough.

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[UNKNOWN]: it's a challenge that's within reach yet still calls for a stretch.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's that sweet spot just beyond the borders of your comfort zone.

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[UNKNOWN]: It possesses a duration pathway and outcome DPO as you call in the book that are attainable yet it demands a measure of exertion.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's the kind of goal that sparks a reassuring yes I've got this and rewards you with a fulfilling knot of achievement upon completion.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's interesting, one of the things I talk about is one of my favorite tools for leadership is leadership itself.

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[UNKNOWN]: So, if I've got a guy who, let's say, is not very confident, give him something, task and put him in charge of a mission or an operation that I know he can handle.

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[UNKNOWN]: But you can't make it so easy that it's just nothing for him.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's got to be something that's a little bit of a challenge but not overwhelming.

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[UNKNOWN]: And you allow them it's a stretch form but they get it done and they're confidence increases.

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[UNKNOWN]: So that's a good tool to think about and it's a good thing to think about with your own goals that you have for yourself.

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[UNKNOWN]: yeah and the easy the ease of which is actually important as well because if we do if we're not setting long enough horizons that matters I think I talk about the guy I met in the book I talk about the guy I met who introduced himself after a talk he's an ultra runner and you know people do ultra runner I mean hundred and fifty hundred mile races I would never run that far so so it's curious to me um I say how do you get into that he's like well you may not believe this but I used to be 450 pounds and I was like whoa I said tell me that story

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[UNKNOWN]: And he said, well, I was so sick one day of my health and my weight that I said to myself, I'm going to run a marathon.

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[UNKNOWN]: He decided to run a marathon.

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[UNKNOWN]: I said, what do you do?

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[UNKNOWN]: He said, well, first thing I did is I went home, I ordered running shoes.

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[UNKNOWN]: And then the running shoes came.

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[UNKNOWN]: And then I said, next tomorrow morning, I'm going to get up and put on my running shoes.

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[UNKNOWN]: next morning I put on my running shoes, walk to the front door, next morning, walk to the mailbox, next morning, walk to the, so he set his rises, so I was joking like, I tried it when I'm home, run maybe once a week if I can, I enjoy it, 3.3 miles, 3.2 miles is the longest, but if I can't run for several weeks and I get home and I say, you know what, I want to run again, and I say, tomorrow I'm just going to walk to my mailbox, it's not going to be a large enough thing, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: So the, we have to stretch ourselves to a degree where it's kind of, it's outside

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[UNKNOWN]: That's it.

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[UNKNOWN]: We're not going to what I can make it and the good news is if it if you do pick something too far you can pull it in in the moment depending but yeah, ease you can't be too easy

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[UNKNOWN]: We just sent a guy in the podcast named Mason Wright who ran a thousand miles around the track.

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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, my goodness.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I didn't really realize How psycho that was until we started talking about it and when you're out running in in the normal world You get all these little micro adjustments and you get to you know, you're going left you're going right you're looking at different things

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[UNKNOWN]: And your body has to adapt, and so that means your body's not doing the same exact repetitive motion, which is way harder on your body than even the little micro adjustments uphill downhill, trail, take going left, going right, it was brutal and there's not, he's the third person ever to do this.

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[UNKNOWN]: There were actually three people who did it.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's a problem.

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[UNKNOWN]: And one of the guys who was like, maybe the first guy to do it, who was like, apparently this ultra ultra hardcore dude, and it was like annihilated him.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like he got permanently injured from it.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's crazy.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's crazy.

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[UNKNOWN]: It took him, do you remember what it took him?

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[UNKNOWN]: It took him like, I want to say night.

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[UNKNOWN]: It took him a couple weeks like 19 days running the whole time.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, no, he's you're stopping like you have to sleep You have to like lay down, but you're all day But you stay on the track and I want to say the it was more than eight hours a day.

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[UNKNOWN]: It was like probably I forget the number of hours a day But usually when I think the average is 56 miles a day

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[UNKNOWN]: And then, you know, lay down, get massages, you know, hydrate, and get back to it again.

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[UNKNOWN]: But that repetitive, and even, I said, did you run the opposite way around the track?

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[UNKNOWN]: And he did be only to about a third of the laps, the opposite way, because it was like, it's psychologically weird for human beings to run.

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[UNKNOWN]: I guess it's clockwise or is it counterclockwise?

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[UNKNOWN]: One of them is counterclockwise, it's like psychologically, we're not, we don't like it.

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[UNKNOWN]: Interesting.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so, you just freak out when you're doing even said, he was like, it was so hard for me to run.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: The opposite direction, I was like, okay bro.

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[UNKNOWN]: He had said his horizons very specifically.

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[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: But you know, one of the talks I had with him before he did it was this is something I tell people it's a very similar thing But you know when you're shooting and I explain to people that when you're shooting When you the targets far off in the distance and when you look at you I can see the target But if you continue to look at it becomes blurry and so what do we do we focus on our front sight, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: And this is what I always explain to people sometimes you've got to focus on the front site like hey I'm just going to do what I need to do today like this just this next step or whatever you said but to the end of the berm right but then sometimes when that grind starts to take an impact on you you've got to you know hold on a second let me look at the far target here oh yeah that's right I want to complete this

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[UNKNOWN]: Ultra marathon or I want to make it through buds or whatever.

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[UNKNOWN]: You look out.

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

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[UNKNOWN]: I can see that thing But again, sometimes that just gets too far away when it's too far away that that seems like a dream Yeah, and so I'm gonna look right back on my front side again.

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[UNKNOWN]: What I got to do today?

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[UNKNOWN]: What I got to do in the next 20 minutes to move towards that reality.

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[UNKNOWN]: So 100% That's one of the ways that I describe this thing of the horizons

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[UNKNOWN]: Fast forward a little bit.

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[UNKNOWN]: Meaningful goals boost rather than drain motivation because of how dopamine functions.

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[UNKNOWN]: Often dubbed the molecule of pleasure or reward reward dopamine does create a feeling of reward for pleasurable activities.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, it spikes you indulge in something like a tasty dessert echo Charles.

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[UNKNOWN]: But there's more to it, Brian, I was on a bunch of travel and I was explaining and I ended up at an event for echelon front to call the council and why I was talking through dopamine and rewards and overcoming and amygdala and I was explaining that I got on this plane and I had neat because I don't like to eat when I'm speaking blah blah blah so I was at an event so I didn't eat and then next thing you know I travel and it's all on this plane.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I just got into three bags of laser potato chips, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like

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[UNKNOWN]: I was gonna start to death.

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[UNKNOWN]: So I just had crumbs on my chin.

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[UNKNOWN]: Just grease stuff just getting in there But that dope I mean, that dope I mean is real man Dope me is actually the driving force that enables you to seek outside pleasurable experiences in the first place It is the motivational push behind the pursuit of rewarding because one of great examples because I was like there's no world Where my frontal cortex is like hey eat these three bags of lanes potatoes There's no world where that happens right

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[UNKNOWN]: No, I'm breaking those things open like a straight savage.

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[UNKNOWN]: It powers the pursuit of all goals from getting a slice of cheesecake to enduring surf torture.

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[UNKNOWN]: But here's the catch.

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[UNKNOWN]: If the goal seems too daunting, your body can't produce enough dopamine to propel you toward it.

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[UNKNOWN]: You end up feeling unmotivated.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's what I was just talking about.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's a far distance thing.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's right.

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[UNKNOWN]: Too far of a horizon.

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[UNKNOWN]: Too far of a horizon.

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[UNKNOWN]: Picture standing at the base of a mountain with a thousand steps cut into it.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's a hefty number.

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[UNKNOWN]: On the flip side, if your goal is too modest, the feeling of reward would you achieve it will be minimal or even zero.

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[UNKNOWN]: So, there you go.

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[UNKNOWN]: There it is.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Just manage your dopamine.

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[UNKNOWN]: It's all very subjective.

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[UNKNOWN]: We can all do it practice it.

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[UNKNOWN]: Here's another interesting one.

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[UNKNOWN]: And it's ties in with what we're just saying you but you use the term keep your eyes off the price Which is kind of what I was just saying if that thing is so far in the distance It doesn't even have meaning anymore, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, oh, I want I really want to buy a house so for the next four years

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[UNKNOWN]: I need to save up five years for a down payment on a house, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: But then you're, you know, you're out in the mall.

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[UNKNOWN]: Or no, even worse, you're on Amazon.com.

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[UNKNOWN]: And you can have this thing, whatever this thing that you do not need in any sense of the word.

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[UNKNOWN]: Which is most things on Amazon.

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[UNKNOWN]: Which is most things on Amazon.

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[UNKNOWN]: But echo Charles, he's addicted to knives and flashlights.

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[UNKNOWN]: So he's just like, oh, new flashlight.

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[UNKNOWN]: How many what candle power is that thing?

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[UNKNOWN]: Loom and how many loom is next?

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[UNKNOWN]: And next thing you know, he's clicking on a on a $80 flash light of which he has For already 512 Yeah, 12 Well, it will be well lit And the apocalypse comes off Yeah, next one here.

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[UNKNOWN]: Stay cool.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, tools to modulate autonomic arousal

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[UNKNOWN]: Autonomic arousal is the body's natural boost, ignites a cascade of biochemical changes to energize us when facing a challenge or threat.

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[UNKNOWN]: However, there's a threshold, and this is where we're talking about the amygdala hijack.

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[UNKNOWN]: If this shift goes unchecked and can spiral into what's known as autonomic overload, or amygdala hijack, as the amygdala plays a key role in initiating an autonomic arousal.

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[UNKNOWN]: Actions become reflective, reflexive rather than reflective.

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[UNKNOWN]: And there we go, this is what we're going to watch out for.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so then you get into the tools to get control of this situation.

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[UNKNOWN]: So this is basically taking that other part of that equation.

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[UNKNOWN]: So moving horizons is buying down uncertainty.

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[UNKNOWN]: If we want to buy down anxiety, we can take control of our physiology.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so in the chapter there I talk about some visual tools and some pretools.

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[UNKNOWN]: But the idea is,

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[UNKNOWN]: When we get autonomously aroused, our physiology reacts in very specific ways.

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[UNKNOWN]: Our vision tunnels, our breathing gets more our shorter and more and more choppy.

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[UNKNOWN]: We can reverse that process by doing things with our vision and doing things with our breath.

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[UNKNOWN]: Breath work is probably the most powerful and there's several different breath tools.

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[UNKNOWN]: Breath work is cool because breath work you can...

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[UNKNOWN]: You can increase your autonomic arousal with breath work.

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[UNKNOWN]: You can decrease it.

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[UNKNOWN]: You can hold the steady Visual tools or some some things you can do in there, but but the idea is you can literally Bring down your autonomic arousal, which is quite literally bring your front a little back online and you can combine the two In other words, your first horizon can be I'm gonna take 10 breaths and so you're combining that You're getting your front a little back online.

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[UNKNOWN]: You're getting into decision making process and you're saying okay now I can go from where can I go from here?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I was going through.

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[UNKNOWN]: ULT, which is unit level training with I when I was a task in a commander, and my one of my platoon commander Seth Stone, we're in the vehicles, and we're doing immediate action drills, and I was sitting behind him, you know, watching because I'm the task in commander, so I'm just like watching how he's doing, and the first time he does one or second, whatever it was, and he's like not making any calls.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm watching him as the 50 cal start shooting in the targets pop up, and I'm looking at him, he's just not not doing anything.

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[UNKNOWN]: So I watched him do that a couple times and so I said all right here's what you're going to do when I took a Sharpie magic marker in a row on the window It is home V in front of his face one relax to look around three make a call and I said hey next time you hear the 50 caliber starts shooting follow these instructions.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's at Roger So I behind him and I'm watching him machine gun starts find out.

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[UNKNOWN]: I see him

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[UNKNOWN]: And I go, okay, he just relax, and they see move his head, he looks around, he opens the Humvee door to see where the other one, okay, he's looking around, and then boom, make a call.

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[UNKNOWN]: And guess what, it worked.

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[UNKNOWN]: And I didn't know this at the time, but those instructions of like, okay, relax, take a breath.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's what you need to do.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's step number one.

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[UNKNOWN]: Look around, that expands your horizons.

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, the other story I tell about this, which I told you, women as well, is

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[UNKNOWN]: I never wanted to sound panic when I got on the radio because everyone's going to make fun of you and everyone's going to panic too.

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[UNKNOWN]: So regardless of what I had done in the previous 30 seconds to five minutes when I got on the radio to say something to the boys, I would

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[UNKNOWN]: Hey, this is a juggle.

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[UNKNOWN]: We need instead of Who is juggling?

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[UNKNOWN]: You know, I'm not doing that.

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[UNKNOWN]: No, it's not.

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[UNKNOWN]: We're not doing that.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's right.

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[UNKNOWN]: So there you have the components and the and the other thing was, you know, what I ended up calling to taxing is like take your head off your weapon.

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[UNKNOWN]: Take a step back off the skirmish line and look to your left.

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[UNKNOWN]: Look to your right.

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[UNKNOWN]: See what's happening.

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[UNKNOWN]: And these are all exactly as you prescribe in the book visual tools like take a step back and open up your your panoramic vision That's what we have to do and even when even I tell this to clients right now They'll say you know, I'll be in a meeting and I'll start getting frustrated and I will say hey

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[UNKNOWN]: Lean back from the from the meeting like push your seat back and look it look up and down the table if you're having a conversation with someone take a half a step back Just back away and and just look around a little bit broad in your your field of view because it Absolutely relaxes you and I always say you always feel relaxed when you're watching the sunset in the ocean You're feeling relaxed when you're overlooking the mountains that feels relaxing because you can see that there's no threats there.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah

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[UNKNOWN]: It opens up, that your animal instinct is getting relaxed.

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[UNKNOWN]: And same thing with that breath, just slow it down.

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[UNKNOWN]: And you're going to be in a better, a much better spot.

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, you slice time differently, too.

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[UNKNOWN]: Your brain, when you get really good at this, it's why those who are good at this will describe a very kinetic event as time slowed down.

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[UNKNOWN]: Because your brain is actually slicing time in a different way.

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[UNKNOWN]: And we're able to consciously see that.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so what first of all I have to say I loved we talked about Seth last time I loved Seth he was he came He came to see a team 10 when I was actually a great great guy But but when we talk about this idea of slowing down and people some people I'm sure you get this to the most classic excuses while just I have no time is like We we always have time right I mean if we can be in common if I can have a parachute malfunction and I can take a half breath before I do something I think you can take a half breath on a meeting that's getting stressful

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[UNKNOWN]: Seemingly, if you could go to this slow down for you and you'll be able to make the call.

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[UNKNOWN]: So, I have a very vivid memory of the first time that I ever had that happen.

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[UNKNOWN]: I was over in the Persian Gulf.

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[UNKNOWN]: It was like 1999 or 2000.

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[UNKNOWN]: We were doing a ship boarding and it was this big Russian ship and there was a lot of hype around us doing this up.

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[UNKNOWN]: and we were fast-ropping onto an air.

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[UNKNOWN]: And that fast-ropping was, it was in slow motion.

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[UNKNOWN]: And it was so cool.

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[UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh, this is it right here.

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[UNKNOWN]: This is go, this is this, I'm just like, seeing everything I'm looking at the bridge.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm fast-ropping down, I'm looking around, I'm looking at the guys that are ahead of me.

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[UNKNOWN]: Just, it was crazy how much everything slowed down.

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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, how long does it fast for a take?

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[UNKNOWN]: Four seconds, three seconds.

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[UNKNOWN]: It seemed like 25 seconds.

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[UNKNOWN]: It was how much everything slowed down.

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[UNKNOWN]: And it was really nice, because then I was kind of kind of cut, kind of knew what to expect.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, okay, cool, that's pretty dope.

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, so, so, one of my buddies Matt Pissinette, who, obviously wrote no easy day and stuff, he talks about rehearsing the car wreck or the car accident and how, if you're someone who's gotten to many car accidents, you're someone with the first one, you're like, oh my god, everything happened.

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[UNKNOWN]: I couldn't, I can't remember.

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[UNKNOWN]: Then again, the second was like, oh, I noticed this, this third one, you're like, oh, I noticed it.

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[UNKNOWN]: And so you do this often up and you begin to notice stuff like you're saying, even in the most kinetic environments, you kind of, you, you, things slow down, you start noticing things.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: the respiratory tools.

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[UNKNOWN]: You mentioned some of them.

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[UNKNOWN]: There's oxygen dominated inhale breathing I was thinking about this, you know, which ups you're out of the puzzle.

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[UNKNOWN]: Like like when you're getting ready to echo Charles.

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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, he knows what I'm going to say.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's getting ready.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's getting ready to bench press those 120s, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: It's a little.

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[UNKNOWN]: Am I wrong?

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[UNKNOWN]: No, you're correct.

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[UNKNOWN]: You in the game, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Wim Hof popularized this, too.

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[UNKNOWN]: He's a lot of what he does.

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[UNKNOWN]: The Wim Hof breathing is very, it's auctioning yourself, getting yourself amped up.

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[UNKNOWN]: And then there's the psychological side, which you talked about in the first book, when you were parachuting, and you'd be yawning, even though you were freaking horrified, you're like, why am I yawning and you figured out that that's the psychological side?

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[UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah, in a part, what physiological side, what's happening is you're you're yawning activates, I can't remember the neuroscience, you know, I have to refer you're bringing on that one, but it activates this, this nerve that hits the vagus nerve, so you're actually activating your system.

01:00:10.638 --> 01:00:12.439
[UNKNOWN]: in a way that allows you to actually calm down.

01:00:12.479 --> 01:00:17.603
[UNKNOWN]: But physiological size probably the easiest, most effective thing to do, and that's really easy.

01:00:17.623 --> 01:00:21.967
[UNKNOWN]: That's just a really deep breath in, a top off, and then a very slow exhale.

01:00:22.327 --> 01:00:24.789
[UNKNOWN]: And you're blowing out carbon dioxide, that's what's happening.

01:00:24.849 --> 01:00:28.292
[UNKNOWN]: And so you're releasing that anxiety.

01:00:29.172 --> 01:00:31.834
[UNKNOWN]: Then you've got the 478 breathing technique.

01:00:31.954 --> 01:00:32.614
[UNKNOWN]: Again, get the book.

01:00:32.654 --> 01:00:34.555
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's a lot of things to the box breathing.

01:00:35.015 --> 01:00:37.957
[UNKNOWN]: And these things are all in the book to help you.

01:00:39.758 --> 01:00:43.019
[UNKNOWN]: Part two of this book, mastering yourself.

01:00:43.160 --> 01:00:48.903
[UNKNOWN]: And now we get a kind of a discussion about the attributes again, which is what you wrote an entire book about.

01:00:49.723 --> 01:00:55.266
[UNKNOWN]: And the big key point that you make in this book is that you have to identify your attributes.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the idea is, well, first of all, those first three things we talked about, they're all ubiquitous to all human beings.

01:01:01.211 --> 01:01:05.695
[UNKNOWN]: We all have the ability to do this physiological, physiologically, and neurologically, we can move horizons.

01:01:05.715 --> 01:01:06.095
[UNKNOWN]: We've done that.

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[UNKNOWN]: We also have to understand what we're bringing into uncertainty subjectively.

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[UNKNOWN]: What are those things subjective about us that we're bringing into certainty?

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[UNKNOWN]: So, those factors.

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[UNKNOWN]: Attributes understanding our attributes, understanding our unique attribute stack, our ranking.

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[UNKNOWN]: It allows us to say, okay, this is me at my most raw and that's what the the tool in our assessment tool allows you to do is allows you to figure out your attributes from 1 to 36 and again, like I'll say Just because your number 36 on the attribute doesn't mean you have, don't have it.

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[UNKNOWN]: So those person looks at like 36 number 36 is humor.

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[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't mean you don't have a sense of humor.

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[UNKNOWN]: It just means when the shit hits the fan, you're not the first person telling jokes, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: You're going to be more serious.

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[UNKNOWN]: Someone who has number one is their humor, they're going to come up with a joke immediately, which we know these guys.

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[UNKNOWN]: We need them, right?

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[UNKNOWN]: They're the class clowns.

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[UNKNOWN]: So it's really about how your attributes stack.

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[UNKNOWN]: So you'd understand how your behavior is going to be prioritized.

01:01:54.774 --> 01:01:58.936
[UNKNOWN]: God, so your assessment force ranks the attributes.

01:01:59.076 --> 01:01:59.536
[UNKNOWN]: Is that correct?

01:01:59.556 --> 01:02:00.016
[UNKNOWN]: That's correct.

01:02:00.076 --> 01:02:00.296
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.

01:02:00.496 --> 01:02:07.580
[UNKNOWN]: So I couldn't be a nine on situational awareness and also a nine on persistence.

01:02:07.660 --> 01:02:07.980
[UNKNOWN]: It's right.

01:02:08.340 --> 01:02:11.661
[UNKNOWN]: Right, so in other words, and I would say we have 36, so it's 1 to 36.

01:02:11.801 --> 01:02:17.543
[UNKNOWN]: Now, you can be at number one on situation awareness and number two on perseverance.

01:02:17.763 --> 01:02:21.644
[UNKNOWN]: Right, and that's going to manifest in very specific ways in your behavior.

01:02:22.404 --> 01:02:30.247
[UNKNOWN]: But you could also be number number three on decisiveness and number 36 on patients.

01:02:30.767 --> 01:02:34.228
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, now that's going to be advantageous to the sense that you're not going to be someone who slows down or waste time.

01:02:34.248 --> 01:02:36.809
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to make decisions rapidly, but like we described,

01:02:37.609 --> 01:02:41.610
[UNKNOWN]: all of our attributes, highs and lows come with both advantages and disadvantages.

01:02:41.670 --> 01:02:43.051
[UNKNOWN]: Not even disadvantages, blind spots.

01:02:43.391 --> 01:02:49.353
[UNKNOWN]: So another blind spot of that particular one, high decisive low patients, that you may make decisions too quickly, too impulsively.

01:02:49.713 --> 01:02:55.295
[UNKNOWN]: And so what we have to recognize are about ourselves is, first of all, our lower attributes are just as advantageous as our high ones.

01:02:55.335 --> 01:02:55.595
[UNKNOWN]: They are,

01:02:56.876 --> 01:03:14.608
[UNKNOWN]: Contributing in ways in our performance and those combinations allow us to understand how and why we behave what we do You're going to want to push forward in in situations where you need some very creative thinking You're going to want to push forward that person who's higher in cunning because they're going to be naturally more inclined especially in their most raw moments

01:03:15.288 --> 01:03:44.375
[UNKNOWN]: To think of very creative outside of the box solutions and and I think this is the this is the Gift that we are given in Buds because day one of Buds you begin to understand yourself at your most raw Now you're not nuanced in the in the vocabulary of attributes So you don't know exactly what it is, but you start knowing oh, this is how I show up on my most raw And you start learning that about your teammates and and the secret to the sealed teams is we all know each other out our most raw And some of us are good at certain things others are not and we just we kind of step up and step back and in a very dynamic way

01:03:45.295 --> 01:03:46.796
[UNKNOWN]: understand that ranking is really important.

01:03:47.857 --> 01:03:51.999
[UNKNOWN]: And then you, you talking here about developing your attributes.

01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:57.402
[UNKNOWN]: So if I'm not the best at situational awareness, can I get better at it?

01:03:57.702 --> 01:03:58.083
[UNKNOWN]: You can.

01:03:58.163 --> 01:04:00.224
[UNKNOWN]: However, it comes with a caveat.

01:04:00.244 --> 01:04:05.187
[UNKNOWN]: So in other words, like I said, just because you're low on something doesn't mean you need to develop it.

01:04:05.367 --> 01:04:08.108
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, in fact, developing it may be detrimental to what you want to do.

01:04:08.148 --> 01:04:09.049
[UNKNOWN]: So here's a good example.

01:04:09.069 --> 01:04:13.711
[UNKNOWN]: I think seals fall on this category too, but I will, there's a group of people we consistently work with

01:04:15.427 --> 01:04:35.951
[UNKNOWN]: very high on caring so caring is one of our attributes as is empathy okay two separate things so the quick description empathy as I feel what you feel caring is I'm acting to do something okay caring is an action arm there's a group of people we consistently work with that are all high on caring low on empathy who might you imagine that group is say it again high on high on caring very high on caring low on empathy

01:04:37.209 --> 01:04:39.031
[UNKNOWN]: um... doctors?

01:04:39.191 --> 01:04:41.312
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, specifically emergency room doctors.

01:04:41.392 --> 01:04:42.453
[UNKNOWN]: Emergency room workers.

01:04:42.493 --> 01:04:46.776
[UNKNOWN]: They are people who say, if I get emotionally involved to any extent, I can't do my job.

01:04:46.796 --> 01:04:49.558
[UNKNOWN]: However, I will do everything in my power to care.

01:04:49.598 --> 01:04:55.683
[UNKNOWN]: So this is a factor where if they if they worked on their empathy, it may inhibit their ability to their job.

01:04:55.703 --> 01:04:58.325
[UNKNOWN]: And so what we want to kind of describe for people is

01:04:58.905 --> 01:05:02.049
[UNKNOWN]: The way I describe attributes is that we are all automobiles.

01:05:02.109 --> 01:05:03.310
[UNKNOWN]: All of us human beings are automobiles.

01:05:03.330 --> 01:05:05.713
[UNKNOWN]: Some of us are jeeps, some of us are SUVs, some of us are Ferrari.

01:05:05.753 --> 01:05:07.135
[UNKNOWN]: And you never judge a Ferrari.

01:05:07.415 --> 01:05:10.279
[UNKNOWN]: A Jeep would never judge a Ferrari for not being able to go off road.

01:05:10.299 --> 01:05:12.482
[UNKNOWN]: And a Ferrari would never judge a Jeep for not being able to go fast.

01:05:12.562 --> 01:05:13.443
[UNKNOWN]: Okay?

01:05:13.603 --> 01:05:17.087
[UNKNOWN]: What we have to understand is we have to understand what kind of vehicle we are and ask ourselves.

01:05:17.928 --> 01:05:27.679
[UNKNOWN]: will develop in these attributes help in my jeepness or my ferrariness because you can be a jeep and you can get a ferrarianjan ferrari tires and you will both be a miserable ferrari and a miserable jeep.

01:05:27.699 --> 01:05:28.700
[UNKNOWN]: You will have destroyed your jeepness.

01:05:28.720 --> 01:05:33.165
[UNKNOWN]: So that said, and I know you're someone we've talked about this either last time or even offline.

01:05:33.885 --> 01:05:34.825
[UNKNOWN]: Seals are low in empathy.

01:05:34.865 --> 01:05:39.526
[UNKNOWN]: We have to be to do our job as a leader as a father as someone coming out of the military Is this villain?

01:05:39.646 --> 01:05:41.766
[UNKNOWN]: I said well, I actually have to develop my empathy.

01:05:41.786 --> 01:06:01.070
[UNKNOWN]: So I've been developing my empathy over the years HB who you know He's in he know that we talk about this all the time and and we joke about the fact that we can be we'll be in situations nowadays Like I'll see a commercial in some of that I'll feel emotions like what the hell is going on with me So we're actually we've developed our empathy muscle because we haven't had to have low empathy

01:06:01.670 --> 01:06:02.711
[UNKNOWN]: the way we did in the team.

01:06:02.731 --> 01:06:04.792
[UNKNOWN]: And so, so you can develop an attribute.

01:06:05.112 --> 01:06:05.933
[UNKNOWN]: It takes work.

01:06:06.113 --> 01:06:07.433
[UNKNOWN]: It takes self development.

01:06:07.533 --> 01:06:12.776
[UNKNOWN]: It takes your, your willingness to step into environments that test and tease that attribute.

01:06:12.816 --> 01:06:14.177
[UNKNOWN]: So, develop your patients.

01:06:14.197 --> 01:06:15.878
[UNKNOWN]: Go find environments that test and tease your patients.

01:06:16.779 --> 01:06:22.602
[UNKNOWN]: But you have to do it in a very deliberate and thoughtful way, because it may be inhibiting your performance if you're not careful.

01:06:23.222 --> 01:06:45.477
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the classic question, which you also posed in the attributes, which I posed in my book, as well as where I wrote about the book Leadership Strategy and Tactics field manual, where our leader's corner made, and yes, the answer is both, and yes, you can be a person that is naturally gifted at

01:06:47.178 --> 01:06:47.738
[UNKNOWN]: public speaking.

01:06:48.419 --> 01:06:50.880
[UNKNOWN]: There's some people that they're just really good at public speaking.

01:06:51.820 --> 01:06:54.421
[UNKNOWN]: And you could be someone that is not naturally gifted at public speaking.

01:06:54.621 --> 01:06:58.943
[UNKNOWN]: And public speaking is very nice to have in a leadership position.

01:06:59.583 --> 01:07:00.684
[UNKNOWN]: And you can get better at that.

01:07:01.684 --> 01:07:05.906
[UNKNOWN]: You may not get as good as the person that was naturally get, but you can definitely get better at it.

01:07:06.186 --> 01:07:07.347
[UNKNOWN]: Being able to simplify things.

01:07:07.907 --> 01:07:10.368
[UNKNOWN]: That's a very great, that's a great skill to have as a leader.

01:07:10.748 --> 01:07:11.829
[UNKNOWN]: You might not be naturally

01:07:16.091 --> 01:07:18.593
[UNKNOWN]: If you work on it and pay attention to it, you can get better at it.

01:07:19.734 --> 01:07:32.425
[UNKNOWN]: Here's a good news about that, which I'll say is we don't necessarily have to develop attributes or low on because what we actually can do instead and what we're doing mostly in every day life is we are deliberately dialing up or dialing down attributes.

01:07:32.805 --> 01:07:36.128
[UNKNOWN]: So someone might be low on patients and they're saying, I'm going to this meeting.

01:07:36.148 --> 01:07:38.370
[UNKNOWN]: I got to dial up my patients, but it's taking conscious effort.

01:07:39.190 --> 01:07:44.576
[UNKNOWN]: I can't remember the team guy was asking his number one was he took the assessment his number one is humor And I said do you ever have to dial down your humor?

01:07:44.596 --> 01:07:46.318
[UNKNOWN]: He's like oh, yes, because joke.

01:07:46.338 --> 01:07:47.979
[UNKNOWN]: I want to tell it's completely inappropriate, right?

01:07:47.999 --> 01:07:57.148
[UNKNOWN]: So he's dialing down his humor and so we're dialing things all the time We have to recognize that it takes conscious energy to do that one and be and two at our most raw when the shit it's a fan

01:07:57.869 --> 01:08:00.792
[UNKNOWN]: it's going to be very difficult and possible to have for us to dial that up.

01:08:00.832 --> 01:08:08.419
[UNKNOWN]: So in a leadership position, someone who didn't really, I'm not, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I think it's okay.

01:08:08.479 --> 01:08:09.359
[UNKNOWN]: I've gotten better at it.

01:08:09.379 --> 01:08:11.862
[UNKNOWN]: It's not something I do, you know, for the rest of my life.

01:08:12.582 --> 01:08:14.864
[UNKNOWN]: I've dialed certain aspects of my attributes.

01:08:14.944 --> 01:08:17.627
[UNKNOWN]: It does not mean that I'm naturally good at anymore.

01:08:17.767 --> 01:08:20.930
[UNKNOWN]: And what it does mean is when I complete that task, usually I'm exhausted afterward.

01:08:21.770 --> 01:08:29.233
[UNKNOWN]: Which is fine, you know, but we can all pick times and pick elements of which we can dial up for certain situations that's mostly what's going on.

01:08:29.594 --> 01:08:36.517
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and then another important component of this is when you recognize what your attributes are and what other people's attributes are.

01:08:36.537 --> 01:08:39.378
[UNKNOWN]: You can build a team where everyone's complimentary to your weaknesses.

01:08:39.478 --> 01:08:39.618
[UNKNOWN]: Right.

01:08:40.138 --> 01:08:44.160
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, I was always looking for that person to work with me.

01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:46.721
[UNKNOWN]: That was really good at paperwork.

01:08:51.243 --> 01:08:56.208
[UNKNOWN]: Um, you know, you, yeah, I've, you know, I work with the counts in my accountant loves like they love this stuff.

01:08:56.228 --> 01:08:56.369
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:08:56.489 --> 01:08:57.089
[UNKNOWN]: Which is awesome.

01:08:57.169 --> 01:08:58.210
[UNKNOWN]: That's exactly what you want.

01:08:58.731 --> 01:09:08.741
[UNKNOWN]: And so finding people that are complimentary to your, like for instance, if you're not the funny guy and you have a cartoon with no fun or a team with no funny guys, it's a thing.

01:09:08.801 --> 01:09:09.642
[UNKNOWN]: That's not a fun time.

01:09:09.722 --> 01:09:10.523
[UNKNOWN]: That's going to be painful.

01:09:10.583 --> 01:09:10.763
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:09:10.904 --> 01:09:11.504
[UNKNOWN]: That's going to be painful.

01:09:11.744 --> 01:09:12.926
[UNKNOWN]: I was on a call the other day.

01:09:13.406 --> 01:09:18.311
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it was a legal call, lawyers, the whole mind yards, and I had to crack some jokes.

01:09:18.451 --> 01:09:25.277
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I just had to, I just had to because it was just too much, you know, I just had someone to nail.

01:09:25.437 --> 01:09:29.321
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, all of a sudden, because lawyers are there to, you know,

01:09:30.341 --> 01:09:36.365
[UNKNOWN]: Defend their ground at all costs and all of a sudden people that you think are your friends You're like wait a second.

01:09:36.765 --> 01:09:37.465
[UNKNOWN]: This isn't my friend.

01:09:37.485 --> 01:09:38.146
[UNKNOWN]: This is my enemy.

01:09:38.646 --> 01:09:45.550
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no no no wait We're all just on a call with lawyers and lawyers are doing their lawyer think So I'm gonna make some jokes everyone remembers that who we all are.

01:09:45.670 --> 01:09:47.551
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, and that's the way it works

01:09:47.751 --> 01:09:52.336
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and you and I talked before about her wives and our wives being opposite us.

01:09:52.516 --> 01:09:54.398
[UNKNOWN]: And this happens in great marriages too.

01:09:54.458 --> 01:09:56.680
[UNKNOWN]: My wife, I'm she's low patients.

01:09:56.781 --> 01:09:57.742
[UNKNOWN]: I'm high patients, right?

01:09:57.762 --> 01:10:02.266
[UNKNOWN]: That's worked beautifully for us because when patients is required, I step up when in patients required, she steps up.

01:10:02.587 --> 01:10:05.610
[UNKNOWN]: Her in patients has prevented me from going to slower procrastinating.

01:10:05.970 --> 01:10:08.473
[UNKNOWN]: My patients has prevented her on occasion from being too impulsive.

01:10:09.193 --> 01:10:10.594
[UNKNOWN]: Same thing with introversion next version.

01:10:10.614 --> 01:10:11.274
[UNKNOWN]: She's extroverted.

01:10:11.294 --> 01:10:23.501
[UNKNOWN]: I'm introverted if we're up to me I just be a hermit in my house, you know We I go on gig sometimes and if I'm by myself just because it's so energetic Expensive for me to be in front of people will finish now as soon as I'm done I just want to be by myself.

01:10:23.741 --> 01:10:24.361
[UNKNOWN]: I'm on the plane home.

01:10:24.381 --> 01:10:25.402
[UNKNOWN]: I talked to nobody, right?

01:10:25.902 --> 01:10:28.684
[UNKNOWN]: If she's with me and they're like, hey, there's a dinner a cocktail.

01:10:28.884 --> 01:10:32.166
[UNKNOWN]: She's like we're going and she makes she forces me out there, right?

01:10:32.206 --> 01:10:35.148
[UNKNOWN]: So I then sometimes I force her to say let's just stay put here, right?

01:10:35.168 --> 01:10:45.195
[UNKNOWN]: So so if you can the best teams are in many cases, well, you shouldn't certain attributes were they're they're Messing like zippers in terms of the the representation of them

01:10:45.571 --> 01:10:53.597
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, anytime to put together a good team, you know, it's always really obvious where they're good both to and they had like the guy that was super risk averse with the guy that just didn't give a shit about that.

01:10:53.617 --> 01:10:54.117
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.

01:10:54.217 --> 01:11:05.185
[UNKNOWN]: And the guy that was super detailing on to it about against the, you know, with the guy that was super big picture and everyone just kind of finds a role and they create enough tension so that it all works.

01:11:05.225 --> 01:11:05.405
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.

01:11:05.625 --> 01:11:24.370
[UNKNOWN]: I'll say that, we give these workshops and these businesses and teams take these assessments and people when they come up low on courage, often they're upset, but then I explain to them what the advantage is in compliance spots and as I say, I give that literal example like, if I'm a platoon commander, I'm planning a mission and it's some crazy shit.

01:11:24.910 --> 01:11:27.593
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to go to my high-carriage guy and say, hey, are we good here?

01:11:27.613 --> 01:11:29.054
[UNKNOWN]: Because he's like, yeah, we're fucking fine.

01:11:29.074 --> 01:11:29.675
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, it no issue.

01:11:29.695 --> 01:11:34.119
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to go to the guy who's lower because he's going to see risk in a different way and start pointing things out.

01:11:34.499 --> 01:11:36.481
[UNKNOWN]: So there's advantages and blind spots to all these things.

01:11:38.166 --> 01:11:39.027
[UNKNOWN]: Check.

01:11:39.207 --> 01:11:43.953
[UNKNOWN]: Next chapter, identities, the subconscious source of action.

01:11:45.015 --> 01:11:47.077
[UNKNOWN]: This section is called the rules and biases you follow.

01:11:47.157 --> 01:11:52.424
[UNKNOWN]: In the preceding chapter, I delineated the attributes as the central code, sculpting, sculpting your behavior patterns.

01:11:52.504 --> 01:11:55.047
[UNKNOWN]: They are your fundamental house.

01:11:55.808 --> 01:12:05.735
[UNKNOWN]: Your identity or identities define your fundamental what's they furnish you with the instinctual guidelines and predispositions you adhere to amid uncertainty.

01:12:06.215 --> 01:12:11.359
[UNKNOWN]: Your few core identities play a vital role in what you do in any scenario.

01:12:11.959 --> 01:12:17.984
[UNKNOWN]: In the throws of profound uncertainty they are often they often emerge as the sole determinants.

01:12:18.784 --> 01:12:34.278
[UNKNOWN]: Deep uncertainty, challenge, and stress often divest us of more surface-level elements of who we are, such as our ideals, habits, preferences, or even personality, revealing the core identities that lie beneath.

01:12:35.835 --> 01:12:37.736
[UNKNOWN]: So this is, I am fascinated with identity.

01:12:37.836 --> 01:12:38.536
[UNKNOWN]: I really am affected.

01:12:38.916 --> 01:12:40.837
[UNKNOWN]: The spoiler alert, that's going to be the third book.

01:12:40.857 --> 01:12:43.739
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just going to start writing all on identity because it's that big of a topic.

01:12:43.779 --> 01:12:49.301
[UNKNOWN]: But the idea is that I am are the two most powerful words in the human language.

01:12:49.401 --> 01:12:51.702
[UNKNOWN]: Everything we put after those two words is how we behave.

01:12:51.742 --> 01:12:53.183
[UNKNOWN]: It becomes a form that.

01:12:53.763 --> 01:13:02.227
[UNKNOWN]: However, we have to understand that we are a collection of IMs and we collect these throughout a lifetime some very benign and some very powerful So I went to this high school.

01:13:02.347 --> 01:13:03.648
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a lacrosse player.

01:13:04.088 --> 01:13:04.728
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a Navy seal.

01:13:04.748 --> 01:13:05.209
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a husband.

01:13:05.229 --> 01:13:05.649
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a father.

01:13:05.669 --> 01:13:07.550
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a metallic a fan whatever that is, right?

01:13:08.390 --> 01:13:22.617
[UNKNOWN]: Every single one of those IMs comes with that or with them some rules and conditions that define behavior in that identity and What we have to recognize is we behave towards that we either consciously or unconsciously and in uncertainty challenge and stress we're going to

01:13:23.497 --> 01:13:27.158
[UNKNOWN]: prioritize or behave towards whichever identity we're prioritizing in the moment.

01:13:27.278 --> 01:13:34.899
[UNKNOWN]: And so in a positive sense, we could say, well, obviously, and I know you're the same as me, two very powerful identities, Navy SEAL husband father.

01:13:35.060 --> 01:13:43.081
[UNKNOWN]: And of course, those of us whose marriages survived, we tended to prioritize husband father or try to, sometimes the neighbors like, no, no, Navy SEAL first, right?

01:13:43.281 --> 01:13:46.122
[UNKNOWN]: So deployment, we're going to rack Navy SEALs number one, okay?

01:13:46.382 --> 01:13:48.382
[UNKNOWN]: However, sometimes the target would change.

01:13:48.502 --> 01:13:50.603
[UNKNOWN]: You'd be dealing with women, children, civilians, and you,

01:13:51.263 --> 01:14:14.037
[UNKNOWN]: bubble up that husband father you change the behavior and follow those rules in the negative sense we've all heard of the or heard the story of the fanatical sports fan who beats the shit out of the other sports fan and then studying and standing in front of the judges like judges like what were you thinking like I was like I didn't know what I don't know what I was thinking that person was behaving and prioritizing identity in the moment and was deparizing other things if in that moment that person had said wait a second

01:14:14.637 --> 01:14:16.038
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I'm a whatever fan.

01:14:16.478 --> 01:14:21.841
[UNKNOWN]: I could name some teams that be hilarious, but you know, yes, I'm a whatever fan, but I'm also a husband father.

01:14:21.901 --> 01:14:24.483
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a businessman that person may have behaved in a different way.

01:14:24.503 --> 01:14:34.769
[UNKNOWN]: And so the idea is start getting a sense of all of your identities start to understand which are powerful, which are put in which ones you can get rid of, you can discard maybe you can build a new one, right?

01:14:34.789 --> 01:14:36.190
[UNKNOWN]: You can create a new one, which is really

01:14:36.890 --> 01:14:42.295
[UNKNOWN]: Probably the ultimate challenge for anybody Transition from the military occur any career.

01:14:42.475 --> 01:15:02.011
[UNKNOWN]: It's that loss of that identity, you know, and I always joke I think the Marines have always been brilliant about this because the Marines are once the Marine always in Marine This is why you can meet 90-year-old guys who say we refer themselves as a gunning sergeant Seals is not the same way, you know, our thing is earn your try and every day As soon as you put that try and down, you're no longer an AV seal, we're a former seal So that can be a real girth

01:15:02.792 --> 01:15:03.953
[UNKNOWN]: in your identity.

01:15:03.973 --> 01:15:11.581
[UNKNOWN]: And if you're not, I think it probably happened for you, but for certainly for me, my husband, father, was so powerful that when the Navy seal went away, I had something to fall back on.

01:15:12.001 --> 01:15:16.586
[UNKNOWN]: But then I said to myself, okay, I'm going to create a new one, author, entrepreneur, and I can build a new identity.

01:15:16.626 --> 01:15:19.169
[UNKNOWN]: And so, so I talked to a lot of folks who are transitioning.

01:15:19.189 --> 01:15:21.971
[UNKNOWN]: I'm starting to talk to, I'm starting to do this work with organizations who's

01:15:22.692 --> 01:15:30.838
[UNKNOWN]: who they have employees whose roles are becoming obsolete because of AI and suddenly their identities are in question, you know, coders, especially, right?

01:15:30.858 --> 01:15:33.339
[UNKNOWN]: They're, you know, coding is going in the way of the dodo, because AI is doing it.

01:15:33.860 --> 01:15:39.784
[UNKNOWN]: So we're working with them to help them understand how these, how they can help these folks figure out and build new identities.

01:15:40.224 --> 01:15:49.891
[UNKNOWN]: And part of this is falling back on your own attributes and what your, what your massive value proposition is, because the attributes that allowed you to do this thing,

01:15:50.231 --> 01:15:55.596
[UNKNOWN]: The attributes that allowed us to be Navy SEALs are the same things we put forth to any other endeavor, which is why you're not talking before.

01:15:56.016 --> 01:15:57.478
[UNKNOWN]: You get Navy SEALs doing everything.

01:15:57.598 --> 01:16:07.606
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, from investing to writing books, I guess, but investing to real estate, to contracting, to entrepreneurship, all that stuff.

01:16:07.647 --> 01:16:11.530
[UNKNOWN]: It's because we're falling back on attributes as the identity versus the SEAL thing.

01:16:12.547 --> 01:16:32.933
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and, you know, what I work with this is, obviously we talk about culture, and I always say that culture is the ultimate form of decentralized command, because when people have the embedded culture of the organization, they know how to behave, they know 99% of the decisions they need to make based on just the culture of the organization.

01:16:32.953 --> 01:16:33.173
[UNKNOWN]: That's,

01:16:33.773 --> 01:16:44.609
[UNKNOWN]: the same with you know a family you know if your family has a culture within the family that children know how to behave not based on you telling them what to do because you can't be there all the time but they know oh this

01:16:45.866 --> 01:17:10.079
[UNKNOWN]: this is a part of this is okay for me to do this or this is not okay for me to do this and it's interesting like i never i never like how did my kids about their grades when they were in school but they all did exceptionally well and i never said one word to it was just like this is this is what we do this is standard and that kind of thing because i was just having a discussion with uh... with uh... people from uh... from echelon front

01:17:10.539 --> 01:17:11.680
[UNKNOWN]: You know, people are talking about kids.

01:17:11.700 --> 01:17:12.380
[UNKNOWN]: It comes up a lot.

01:17:12.440 --> 01:17:17.523
[UNKNOWN]: Like, well, how do you, you know, one, one person, I need to, I need to set the standards for my kids.

01:17:18.384 --> 01:17:19.665
[UNKNOWN]: So they know clearly what they are.

01:17:20.265 --> 01:17:24.468
[UNKNOWN]: And I said as much as you can, allow them to figure out what those standards are.

01:17:24.648 --> 01:17:28.510
[UNKNOWN]: You know, ask them where they want to be and what standards will bring them to that ultimate place.

01:17:29.031 --> 01:17:30.451
[UNKNOWN]: And that becomes more embedded them.

01:17:30.672 --> 01:17:32.593
[UNKNOWN]: And now that becomes part of their culture.

01:17:32.953 --> 01:17:35.354
[UNKNOWN]: And if we do a good job as leaders, we actually can

01:17:36.335 --> 01:17:44.202
[UNKNOWN]: can create a culture that becomes people's identities, which is like like you said the Marine Corps doesn't outstanding job of that.

01:17:44.722 --> 01:17:46.744
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he go, they play the Marine Corps him.

01:17:46.824 --> 01:17:53.090
[UNKNOWN]: There's a hundred-year-old Marine in a wheelchair and he will look around and other Marines will come and help him stand up for that.

01:17:53.190 --> 01:17:53.390
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:17:53.510 --> 01:17:59.755
[UNKNOWN]: That's what they're doing, because it's part of their identity, it's part of their culture, and it works, and it can make decisions based on that.

01:18:00.035 --> 01:18:02.737
[UNKNOWN]: And when it's positive identity, man, it's a beautiful thing.

01:18:03.077 --> 01:18:20.530
[UNKNOWN]: It can carry, like you said, in the really stressful times, and the bad times, in the times where perhaps a make-to-lay hijack is a possibility, if you have a really strong identity, it can override that, and you can do the right thing instead of the wrong thing, even in stressful environments.

01:18:20.730 --> 01:18:24.912
[UNKNOWN]: or do the thing that's consistent with your identity, regardless of what that thing is.

01:18:24.972 --> 01:18:31.756
[UNKNOWN]: And I would say this, we have to be careful, and I talk about when it comes to culture, cultures simply a group identity with that is.

01:18:32.456 --> 01:18:34.998
[UNKNOWN]: And there's a difference between behaviors and standards.

01:18:35.018 --> 01:18:35.758
[UNKNOWN]: And I think,

01:18:36.038 --> 01:18:38.479
[UNKNOWN]: behaviors come first and standards come after that.

01:18:38.519 --> 01:18:40.720
[UNKNOWN]: But what are the core behaviors?

01:18:40.740 --> 01:18:42.040
[UNKNOWN]: Because we know a standards can change.

01:18:42.060 --> 01:18:43.101
[UNKNOWN]: I know you probably the same way.

01:18:43.381 --> 01:18:50.544
[UNKNOWN]: You know, if my sons came back with with low grades, it's not like I'm gonna, I'm not gonna punish them for the low grades.

01:18:50.764 --> 01:18:53.385
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to get on them for how they're responding to the low grades.

01:18:53.405 --> 01:18:55.045
[UNKNOWN]: And what are the behaviors that they're applying?

01:18:55.206 --> 01:18:58.427
[UNKNOWN]: Or what were the behaviors they were applying in the first place that got them low grades?

01:18:58.467 --> 01:19:02.288
[UNKNOWN]: Right, that's what we're gonna talk about because identities about behavior.

01:19:02.368 --> 01:19:03.389
[UNKNOWN]: And if we're not careful,

01:19:04.249 --> 01:19:12.745
[UNKNOWN]: In any culture, if we're not more deliberate in defining what it looks like to behave, to be part of this thing, the group's going to sort itself out.

01:19:12.925 --> 01:19:16.010
[UNKNOWN]: And you may not like the answers as a leader, you have to really be on top of that.

01:19:16.883 --> 01:19:25.990
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I always talk about the fact that a gang police is itself, and when you're, well, certainly, in a seal platoon, it's a gang.

01:19:26.090 --> 01:19:26.271
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:19:26.671 --> 01:19:28.552
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, I always say, hey, I was a platoon commander.

01:19:28.933 --> 01:19:30.454
[UNKNOWN]: What did I have to do in someone's late?

01:19:30.514 --> 01:19:31.875
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't have to do anything on someone's late.

01:19:32.215 --> 01:19:33.737
[UNKNOWN]: What I have to do in somebody's forgot a piece of gear.

01:19:33.777 --> 01:19:34.577
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't have to do anything.

01:19:34.657 --> 01:19:35.878
[UNKNOWN]: That shit was getting handled.

01:19:36.379 --> 01:19:37.239
[UNKNOWN]: It was getting handled.

01:19:37.259 --> 01:19:39.841
[UNKNOWN]: The gang is going to police itself, which is, as it should be.

01:19:39.942 --> 01:19:40.122
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:19:42.944 --> 01:19:45.286
[UNKNOWN]: The potency identities for teams is what we just talked about.

01:19:45.587 --> 01:19:48.209
[UNKNOWN]: The potency of a collective identity within a team is immeasurable.

01:19:49.030 --> 01:19:57.817
[UNKNOWN]: This alignment isn't just about the common goal, it's a synergy of values and a unison of intent where each member's actions are harmonized by shared principles and expectations.

01:19:58.478 --> 01:20:00.480
[UNKNOWN]: So that's the culture that we're talking about.

01:20:00.500 --> 01:20:06.065
[UNKNOWN]: So what I did when I was a commanding officer, I talked about in the book was instead of doing a command philosophy.

01:20:06.845 --> 01:20:09.068
[UNKNOWN]: I basically, we did a command identity.

01:20:09.148 --> 01:20:11.370
[UNKNOWN]: We basically designed a series of IM statements.

01:20:11.390 --> 01:20:16.195
[UNKNOWN]: Now, what I did is I designed them, and then I looked, took them to team leaders and team chiefs.

01:20:16.235 --> 01:20:17.016
[UNKNOWN]: And then this looks good.

01:20:17.897 --> 01:20:19.118
[UNKNOWN]: And we used them, and they actually worked.

01:20:19.138 --> 01:20:24.784
[UNKNOWN]: And the one mistake I made in looking back was, I recognized that as soon as I left command,

01:20:25.766 --> 01:20:38.422
[UNKNOWN]: The, the, the, the, the identities as I am disappeared and I said, you know what I made a mistake here and the mistake I made was I never that that first initial trough of I am's I made and I got, you know, got approved through the team leaders.

01:20:38.702 --> 01:20:41.546
[UNKNOWN]: What I should have done about six months into my command tour was say, okay, guys.

01:20:42.566 --> 01:20:48.807
[UNKNOWN]: Let's come together and as a group, let's figure out what these statements are, and then it becomes a team thing versus a rich thing.

01:20:48.947 --> 01:20:56.709
[UNKNOWN]: And so my mistake was it worked for the time being, but it didn't endure because when rich left, it left.

01:20:56.849 --> 01:21:04.231
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and had I done the job of getting the team to do it, then it would still be, it would still be an existence.

01:21:05.171 --> 01:21:06.071
[UNKNOWN]: But anyway, these are lessons.

01:21:06.611 --> 01:21:10.401
[UNKNOWN]: And by the way, the best people at one of the best groups on the world who does this, I mentioned them with the Girl Scouts.

01:21:10.762 --> 01:21:14.472
[UNKNOWN]: The Girl Scouts have what they call the Girl Scout Code, and they're a series of...

01:21:15.225 --> 01:21:16.666
[UNKNOWN]: behaviors that they memorize.

01:21:16.847 --> 01:21:17.347
[UNKNOWN]: I am this.

01:21:17.427 --> 01:21:21.731
[UNKNOWN]: I do this and go read anywhere in the world and they know exactly how to behave.

01:21:22.392 --> 01:21:33.723
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I wrote a series of books called The Way of the Warrior Kid, and the process in the book that the kid goes through is his kind of a wimpy kid can't do any pull-ups.

01:21:34.123 --> 01:21:38.608
[UNKNOWN]: He's getting picked on by the school bully, Kenny Williams, followed by Nathan James,

01:21:39.449 --> 01:21:43.553
[UNKNOWN]: Um, he doesn't know his time stables, so he thinks he's stupid and he has no how to swim.

01:21:43.893 --> 01:21:50.981
[UNKNOWN]: And so he's all sad about all that stuff and luckily his uncle Jake comes to stay with him for the summer and his uncle Jake says, you know.

01:21:51.553 --> 01:21:52.314
[UNKNOWN]: What do you want to do?

01:21:52.454 --> 01:21:53.234
[UNKNOWN]: You want to go for a swim tomorrow?

01:21:53.254 --> 01:21:54.075
[UNKNOWN]: You want to go play ballies?

01:21:54.175 --> 01:21:56.576
[UNKNOWN]: Like, can't play ballies, so good sports, right?

01:21:56.616 --> 01:21:57.457
[UNKNOWN]: Don't even know how to swim.

01:21:58.037 --> 01:21:59.999
[UNKNOWN]: And Uncle Jake says, hey, because Uncle Jake was a seal.

01:22:00.579 --> 01:22:02.160
[UNKNOWN]: And Uncle Jake says, hey, we can fix these problems.

01:22:03.421 --> 01:22:04.702
[UNKNOWN]: But you know, you got to be commit.

01:22:04.722 --> 01:22:05.602
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be hard.

01:22:05.942 --> 01:22:10.565
[UNKNOWN]: So they spend the summer, teaches them how to do pull-ups, teaches them how to work out, teaches them how to eat, right?

01:22:10.625 --> 01:22:12.807
[UNKNOWN]: Teach them how to study all these things.

01:22:12.867 --> 01:22:14.368
[UNKNOWN]: But in researching,

01:22:16.608 --> 01:22:18.569
[UNKNOWN]: he has to figure out what it means to be a warrior.

01:22:19.510 --> 01:22:33.657
[UNKNOWN]: And he researches, he finds all these different codes that range your creed, the seal code, the Viking code, the samurai, the bouchito, the Knights of Shivering, the Shivering Code.

01:22:33.857 --> 01:22:39.120
[UNKNOWN]: So he finds all this codes, and ultimately, he writes his own code for the warrior kit.

01:22:39.500 --> 01:22:40.421
[UNKNOWN]: And it is a bunch of,

01:22:40.981 --> 01:22:47.347
[UNKNOWN]: I am this and and he goes through each thing of what it means to be a warrior kid.

01:22:47.607 --> 01:22:55.995
[UNKNOWN]: So very similar idea that I did and now what's cool is I get kids that write their own warrior kid code.

01:22:56.035 --> 01:23:00.479
[UNKNOWN]: And it's cool because you know different kids and that's the that's the drill in the book as you write your own.

01:23:00.499 --> 01:23:00.700
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:23:01.300 --> 01:23:04.061
[UNKNOWN]: or he writes the kid mark writes his own code.

01:23:04.341 --> 01:23:06.122
[UNKNOWN]: His uncle doesn't dictate it to him.

01:23:06.602 --> 01:23:08.183
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what a lot of kids do.

01:23:08.203 --> 01:23:11.984
[UNKNOWN]: They, because some kids are in the soccer, some kids are in the jujitsu, some kids are in the wrestling.

01:23:12.044 --> 01:23:19.287
[UNKNOWN]: So, and some kids work on a farm until they have different, you know, they have different things that they have to do to support the situation at the end.

01:23:19.707 --> 01:23:26.449
[UNKNOWN]: But very, you know, living without a code is very rudderless way to go through.

01:23:26.469 --> 01:23:29.150
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and we're often just subject to other people's codes.

01:23:29.210 --> 01:23:32.631
[UNKNOWN]: Whatever identity we're slapping ourselves, we just take along those rules.

01:23:32.791 --> 01:23:36.012
[UNKNOWN]: And if we're not careful, like, you know, I went to Purdue as a Purdue guy.

01:23:36.032 --> 01:23:36.933
[UNKNOWN]: I'm supposed to hate Notre Dame.

01:23:36.953 --> 01:23:38.033
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that's what I'm supposed to do.

01:23:38.113 --> 01:23:39.833
[UNKNOWN]: You know, but sometimes I don't hate it.

01:23:39.873 --> 01:23:41.514
[UNKNOWN]: And sometimes I like Notre Dame, right?

01:23:41.554 --> 01:23:47.016
[UNKNOWN]: So, so you just have to make a conscious, it's really the idea is become more conscious of the stuff.

01:23:47.936 --> 01:23:51.577
[UNKNOWN]: We are being directed or behave as being directed in myriad ways throughout our lives.

01:23:51.637 --> 01:23:54.358
[UNKNOWN]: And sometimes if we're not conscious of it, we're going to be behaving in a way.

01:23:54.378 --> 01:23:55.778
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, wait, I said, we're going to look back.

01:23:55.798 --> 01:23:57.659
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, why the hell did I do that?

01:23:57.699 --> 01:24:00.660
[UNKNOWN]: Because you were just a kind of the mob mentality in the, in the, in the negative sense.

01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:01.400
[UNKNOWN]: No doubt.

01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:06.822
[UNKNOWN]: Um, next chapter is called objectives turn purpose into concrete goals.

01:24:07.602 --> 01:24:08.523
[UNKNOWN]: What is your purpose in life?

01:24:09.384 --> 01:24:10.545
[UNKNOWN]: This is a critical question.

01:24:10.665 --> 01:24:15.070
[UNKNOWN]: One that guides us towards understanding our values, our vision for the world and our place within it.

01:24:15.290 --> 01:24:16.591
[UNKNOWN]: What ideals inspire you?

01:24:16.931 --> 01:24:18.893
[UNKNOWN]: What vision do you want to bring to life?

01:24:18.933 --> 01:24:20.655
[UNKNOWN]: What legacy do you aspire to leave behind?

01:24:20.935 --> 01:24:23.138
[UNKNOWN]: These reflections help us to find our purpose.

01:24:23.198 --> 01:24:30.265
[UNKNOWN]: However, while having a purpose as powerful, it can sometimes feel too vast and abstract, making it difficult to target.

01:24:30.585 --> 01:24:49.396
[UNKNOWN]: high performers those who thrive amid lives uncertainties and challenges don't just linger on lofty ideals they transform their purposes into concrete objectives yeah so i mean again this is the this is me as a as a teenager knowing that i wanted to serve i wanted to do something special something unique

01:24:51.499 --> 01:25:04.516
[UNKNOWN]: be be different okay it wasn't until I said I'm going to be navy seal that I began to move towards something you can't depill your way towards a towards a purpose it's just too soft you have to pick concrete objectives this is the guy I met who

01:25:05.497 --> 01:25:22.756
[UNKNOWN]: I want to be healthy, but healthy is a huge goal, so it's like I'm going to run a marathon and he was able to deep heo his way to running a marathon and so um so we just have to understand that purpose is fine and it's it's valuable but if we want to actually take action on something, generate a specific objective and start moving your way.

01:25:22.776 --> 01:25:26.520
[UNKNOWN]: But again, it's kind of the keep your eyes off the prize, it's that target, I love your your target analogy.

01:25:27.080 --> 01:25:42.811
[UNKNOWN]: That has to say soft most of the time because if you focus on it, it's way too far away so you focus on your front side But you still I always call the the objective is like that that lighthouse in the distance It's always kind of guiding in a very in a very soft way just know the cardinal direction basically

01:25:44.072 --> 01:25:49.357
[UNKNOWN]: But the card on direction you may be on your as your focus on your front side here You know moving horizons.

01:25:49.698 --> 01:26:00.790
[UNKNOWN]: It may sometimes feel like you're moving away from it I always use the climber analogy the climber stands at that base of that hill or mountain and looks at the top And says that's my objective and then usually maps out of a general pathway

01:26:01.310 --> 01:26:09.672
[UNKNOWN]: But they know they have to get climbing to start doing that and inevitably on their climb they're going to find a place where they thought they could go one way, but they realize I can't go that way, I have to look for a better handhold or foothold.

01:26:10.172 --> 01:26:19.014
[UNKNOWN]: Well that next best handhold or foothold might be to the left to the right and down, which means they're going to feel like they're moving away from their goal when they're doing that.

01:26:19.054 --> 01:26:19.494
[UNKNOWN]: But they're not.

01:26:19.554 --> 01:26:25.596
[UNKNOWN]: All they're doing is picking a new horizon and they're ultimately they keep that goal in mind that lighthouse.

01:26:25.756 --> 01:26:29.457
[UNKNOWN]: So we have to turn purpose into objectives and move towards them.

01:26:31.217 --> 01:26:34.860
[UNKNOWN]: Another little technique you got in here is acknowledge and release.

01:26:35.501 --> 01:26:36.482
[UNKNOWN]: This is talking about your objective.

01:26:36.502 --> 01:26:37.182
[UNKNOWN]: What is your objective?

01:26:37.202 --> 01:26:38.243
[UNKNOWN]: This is the acknowledge section.

01:26:38.443 --> 01:26:39.204
[UNKNOWN]: What is your objective?

01:26:39.324 --> 01:26:41.145
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe you already have one acknowledge it.

01:26:41.526 --> 01:26:48.171
[UNKNOWN]: Be clear and specific with yourself about its parameters, any relevant constraints, and your degree of commitment to it.

01:26:49.072 --> 01:26:54.376
[UNKNOWN]: And then the other officer or the other section is release.

01:26:54.596 --> 01:26:57.338
[UNKNOWN]: Once you set an objective, release it.

01:26:57.799 --> 01:27:00.180
[UNKNOWN]: There's no need to do well because it's important to you.

01:27:00.260 --> 01:27:01.021
[UNKNOWN]: You won't forget it.

01:27:01.401 --> 01:27:07.526
[UNKNOWN]: When you zoom out to set horizons, acknowledge it, but the rest of the time focus on what is happening in the present moment.

01:27:08.046 --> 01:27:11.247
[UNKNOWN]: You have a long way to go to reach your objective, the unpredictable strike.

01:27:11.707 --> 01:27:15.548
[UNKNOWN]: You will need to be attentive to current circumstances to perform your best.

01:27:15.968 --> 01:27:21.450
[UNKNOWN]: Releasing fully and giving 100% of your attention to present moment is especially important in acute challenges.

01:27:21.630 --> 01:27:25.251
[UNKNOWN]: So this is, this is, this is, I don't think about Friday of Hell week on Monday.

01:27:25.551 --> 01:27:31.632
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I know, finish the finish hell week is the objective, but I'm releasing it because if I think about that on Monday, I'm going to quit.

01:27:31.812 --> 01:27:33.653
[UNKNOWN]: So just like we have an objective on a mission,

01:27:34.213 --> 01:27:39.321
[UNKNOWN]: We know what the entity, we know what the, what we want the entity to be, I'm not thinking about that when I'm in the helicopter doing insertion.

01:27:39.381 --> 01:27:40.502
[UNKNOWN]: That's not the part I'm thinking about.

01:27:41.371 --> 01:27:47.615
[UNKNOWN]: And you talk about objectives, objectives for teams as well, set clear objective for your team.

01:27:47.655 --> 01:27:55.780
[UNKNOWN]: If you have multiple objectives, be extremely clear about which is the focus at any given time, every member must know this and use it as their clear and cardinal direction.

01:27:55.840 --> 01:28:03.745
[UNKNOWN]: And you mentioned this by the way, because you do this naturally when you said you're in sometimes going to be in a meeting and people are kind of going down rabbit holes or whatever and you re anchor them.

01:28:04.645 --> 01:28:05.266
[UNKNOWN]: What are we here for?

01:28:05.286 --> 01:28:05.866
[UNKNOWN]: What's the mission?

01:28:06.146 --> 01:28:08.909
[UNKNOWN]: Let's re-anker for a second and now let's figure out from here.

01:28:08.929 --> 01:28:11.991
[UNKNOWN]: You know, then we're going to let it go and start figuring out what we want to DPL towards.

01:28:12.091 --> 01:28:15.774
[UNKNOWN]: So next chapter, dynamic subordination.

01:28:16.655 --> 01:28:19.758
[UNKNOWN]: Dynamic subordination is team synergy at its finest.

01:28:19.798 --> 01:28:24.041
[UNKNOWN]: Team members remain present and moving units and working seamlessly to enhance a one another.

01:28:24.181 --> 01:28:24.262
[UNKNOWN]: One

01:28:24.962 --> 01:28:27.264
[UNKNOWN]: another strengths and buttress weaknesses.

01:28:27.684 --> 01:28:31.767
[UNKNOWN]: When one team members specific skills or attributes are needed, they step up and lead.

01:28:32.048 --> 01:28:39.834
[UNKNOWN]: The others are then automatically moved to support them fully, once that particular expertise is no longer required, they step back allowing someone else to take the lead.

01:28:40.154 --> 01:28:48.801
[UNKNOWN]: This ensures that the most capable person for the current task or challenge is always at the forefront, taking the fullest possible advantage of each member's strengths.

01:28:49.503 --> 01:28:52.144
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this is quite literally how high performing teams operate.

01:28:52.164 --> 01:28:55.466
[UNKNOWN]: It's a instead of a pyramid or a flat line or upside down pyramid.

01:28:55.486 --> 01:29:02.349
[UNKNOWN]: It's a blob and what that tells us, it's kind of a call, I call it alpha hopping, that alpha position should hop store, it needs to be.

01:29:03.310 --> 01:29:04.570
[UNKNOWN]: But what this tells us is that our,

01:29:06.311 --> 01:29:09.674
[UNKNOWN]: Our role on a team has nothing to do with our position.

01:29:09.974 --> 01:29:13.077
[UNKNOWN]: Our role on a team has everything to do with what we are there to contribute to the team.

01:29:13.277 --> 01:29:16.840
[UNKNOWN]: And as a leader, it's our responsibility to build a dynamically supporting a team.

01:29:17.100 --> 01:29:21.904
[UNKNOWN]: You and I know, experientially, we were in charge, we did hundreds of missions.

01:29:21.924 --> 01:29:22.985
[UNKNOWN]: We were in charge of every single one.

01:29:23.005 --> 01:29:24.406
[UNKNOWN]: It did not mean we were always being supported.

01:29:24.426 --> 01:29:25.547
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, most of the time was the opposite.

01:29:26.227 --> 01:29:32.492
[UNKNOWN]: Now, sometimes the environment would shift and they'd be in support of us, but it's all environmentally-based and we're creating a team that steps up and steps back.

01:29:32.852 --> 01:29:39.737
[UNKNOWN]: The only way you can do that is you have to under, you have to have the team understand themselves, their attributes, what they're bringing to the equation.

01:29:39.837 --> 01:29:42.218
[UNKNOWN]: If you have a team, I need to know who the jeeps are.

01:29:42.618 --> 01:29:46.061
[UNKNOWN]: I need to know who the employees are, you know who the ambulance are, is the party bus.

01:29:46.101 --> 01:29:53.426
[UNKNOWN]: So we know who we're pushing and then we have to give the opportunity for people to step up and allow them to start building that that confidence and exercise in that muscle.

01:29:53.806 --> 01:29:56.508
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's thinking about the attribute.

01:29:56.568 --> 01:30:03.074
[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of funny when new guys show up to the single platoons and they get assigned what their job is going to be.

01:30:03.694 --> 01:30:08.758
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, I was just, they get the Ferrari versus the F350.

01:30:09.018 --> 01:30:11.280
[UNKNOWN]: Like the F350 dude is getting a machine gun.

01:30:12.041 --> 01:30:15.003
[UNKNOWN]: And the Ferrari guy is going to be a point man.

01:30:15.063 --> 01:30:15.664
[UNKNOWN]: Or lead climber.

01:30:15.684 --> 01:30:16.965
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I agree.

01:30:17.065 --> 01:30:17.785
[UNKNOWN]: Lead climber.

01:30:18.246 --> 01:30:19.327
[UNKNOWN]: And then the smart guy.

01:30:19.927 --> 01:30:21.048
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to be a radio man.

01:30:21.268 --> 01:30:22.108
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what's happening.

01:30:22.128 --> 01:30:23.329
[UNKNOWN]: That's what's happening.

01:30:23.389 --> 01:30:28.492
[UNKNOWN]: Is that immediate kind of a recognition?

01:30:28.592 --> 01:30:29.933
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to make a judgment about you.

01:30:29.953 --> 01:30:30.573
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully I'm right.

01:30:30.593 --> 01:30:35.797
[UNKNOWN]: I sometimes were wrong, but then people, we guys, they start one thing and they don't like it.

01:30:35.897 --> 01:30:41.000
[UNKNOWN]: Or we guys who stay in something and they're just they become the best, we see the Jeep early.

01:30:41.020 --> 01:30:43.701
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, oh, guys, I can't believe my Jeep for the tune.

01:30:44.242 --> 01:30:44.782
[UNKNOWN]: And it works out.

01:30:45.316 --> 01:30:48.217
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and then this idea of a dynamic subordination.

01:30:48.237 --> 01:30:50.858
[UNKNOWN]: This is, you know, decentralized command.

01:30:51.359 --> 01:30:53.860
[UNKNOWN]: You have different people that are going to step up and make things happen.

01:30:53.880 --> 01:30:54.680
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:30:54.700 --> 01:31:02.163
[UNKNOWN]: And they're going to be usually they have, if there's something going on, that's a problem or an issue, that people that are there closest to it.

01:31:02.423 --> 01:31:07.426
[UNKNOWN]: Generally speaking, are going to have going to be the best person to find solutions to that problem.

01:31:08.366 --> 01:31:29.798
[UNKNOWN]: although it's the person that's overall in charge looking at going hold on a second you don't know you have these other assets available so we can help you out here which is you know why it why it all works because everyone has a solid ability to communicate with each other until each other what's going on and by the way when I say hey rich I got a problem over here I want to enter this building and rich goes hold on a second we have overhead assets there's no one in that building

01:31:30.078 --> 01:31:31.919
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm not like, well, you don't know what it's like down here.

01:31:31.939 --> 01:31:33.280
[UNKNOWN]: And I go, oh, thanks for the information.

01:31:33.800 --> 01:31:38.263
[UNKNOWN]: But if I say, hey, rich, there's actually movement behind the building, I need to go check out.

01:31:38.283 --> 01:31:40.584
[UNKNOWN]: You don't go, well, I don't listen to, you need to listen to me.

01:31:40.684 --> 01:31:42.765
[UNKNOWN]: No, we listen to each other, we trust each other.

01:31:43.286 --> 01:31:44.286
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what makes this work.

01:31:44.426 --> 01:31:49.109
[UNKNOWN]: It's why I actually emphasize, I call it dynamic subordination, because you could call it dynamic leadership, or whatever.

01:31:49.189 --> 01:31:58.094
[UNKNOWN]: But it emphasizes the humility of the act in terms of, I am willing to listen and show everything about my strengths and weaknesses that I can support you when I need to.

01:31:58.174 --> 01:31:59.095
[UNKNOWN]: And step up when I need to.

01:31:59.295 --> 01:32:03.777
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, on the second section of my book, Leadership Strategy and Taxics Subordinate, your ego.

01:32:03.957 --> 01:32:05.398
[UNKNOWN]: And you absolutely have to.

01:32:05.638 --> 01:32:18.503
[UNKNOWN]: And the amazing thing is, you know, if I've got a giant ego, and you have to work with me, you can be mad that I have a big ego all day, but if you come at me and say, hey, you need it, you got a big ego, Jocca, what's that going to do?

01:32:18.723 --> 01:32:18.903
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:32:19.363 --> 01:32:20.063
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm sorry.

01:32:20.083 --> 01:32:20.884
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, Rich, I'm sorry.

01:32:20.904 --> 01:32:21.904
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't know my ego was big.

01:32:21.924 --> 01:32:22.204
[UNKNOWN]: Hold on.

01:32:22.224 --> 01:32:24.125
[UNKNOWN]: Let me let me just let me just talk about it.

01:32:24.165 --> 01:32:26.606
[UNKNOWN]: No, the only person to ego you can sport in is your own.

01:32:26.666 --> 01:32:26.806
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:32:26.846 --> 01:32:29.487
[UNKNOWN]: And you go, hey, hey, John, you know, sounds like a good plan.

01:32:29.527 --> 01:32:30.408
[UNKNOWN]: How can I support that thing?

01:32:30.428 --> 01:32:32.949
[UNKNOWN]: And all of a sudden, I go, oh, well, he's here to support.

01:32:32.989 --> 01:32:33.509
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't see this.

01:32:33.869 --> 01:32:35.670
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see, I don't see you as a threat anymore.

01:32:35.690 --> 01:32:35.830
[UNKNOWN]: Right.

01:32:35.850 --> 01:32:37.491
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see your ego as a threat to my ego.

01:32:37.511 --> 01:32:42.072
[UNKNOWN]: So I can actually, we can, we can, we can talk and we communicate, we can figure out the best way to do things.

01:32:42.313 --> 01:32:42.453
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:32:42.853 --> 01:32:43.093
[UNKNOWN]: So,

01:32:43.933 --> 01:32:59.745
[UNKNOWN]: Some of the things you talk about with with this utilizing dynamic support nation's build trust Obviously in the way that you build trust you have to give trust You have to give people some level of trust that does that mean when rich shows up to work for me the first thing I do I say hey rich we got an op going tomorrow night.

01:32:59.765 --> 01:33:00.486
[UNKNOWN]: Why don't you go ahead and lead it?

01:33:00.706 --> 01:33:00.846
[UNKNOWN]: Right?

01:33:01.266 --> 01:33:02.367
[UNKNOWN]: No, that's not we're not there yet

01:33:03.958 --> 01:33:04.900
[UNKNOWN]: But I give you something small.

01:33:05.180 --> 01:33:06.142
[UNKNOWN]: Say, hey, can you run the vehicle?

01:33:06.162 --> 01:33:08.806
[UNKNOWN]: Say, hey, can you clear this outbuilding here?

01:33:08.826 --> 01:33:11.271
[UNKNOWN]: Or you take your team and click, oh, yeah, got it, no problem.

01:33:11.311 --> 01:33:12.733
[UNKNOWN]: So we start small and then we build from there.

01:33:13.434 --> 01:33:14.055
[UNKNOWN]: That's number one.

01:33:14.716 --> 01:33:16.600
[UNKNOWN]: Number two, established communication.

01:33:18.048 --> 01:33:28.411
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the idea is, and I talk about the four elements that trust in there, there's competence, consistency, character, and compassion.

01:33:28.431 --> 01:33:29.932
[UNKNOWN]: So competence is do the thing right.

01:33:30.632 --> 01:33:32.192
[UNKNOWN]: Consistency is do the thing right over time.

01:33:33.073 --> 01:33:34.053
[UNKNOWN]: Character is do the right thing.

01:33:34.573 --> 01:33:37.714
[UNKNOWN]: Compassion is do the right thing because you care about me as a human being.

01:33:38.094 --> 01:33:40.535
[UNKNOWN]: And so I think all four factors are important.

01:33:40.555 --> 01:33:45.237
[UNKNOWN]: People who think that competence doesn't matter and it's all lofty and lovey stuff.

01:33:45.277 --> 01:33:45.617
[UNKNOWN]: It's not.

01:33:45.657 --> 01:33:46.457
[UNKNOWN]: You have to be good.

01:33:46.997 --> 01:33:55.642
[UNKNOWN]: and be confident and what you're talking about is giving people the chance to explore their competence and dial in their competence and then begin to show some consistency that so you hit the first two.

01:33:55.662 --> 01:34:12.172
[UNKNOWN]: I think the real message on this is most people they miss those other two ones and they they try to form trust they think it's all about competency and consistency and it's not if we're not if we're not doing the right thing and if we're not showing people that they're cared for right that this person really cares about me and

01:34:12.592 --> 01:34:16.577
[UNKNOWN]: You're not going to have that really strong bond of trust that long lasting that enduring trust.

01:34:16.597 --> 01:34:18.459
[UNKNOWN]: And so all four of these are specific.

01:34:18.519 --> 01:34:19.921
[UNKNOWN]: They all require behavior.

01:34:19.961 --> 01:34:21.442
[UNKNOWN]: So like you said, it's a generative act.

01:34:22.283 --> 01:34:26.728
[UNKNOWN]: I behave in a way that allows someone to receive that and then reciprocate.

01:34:27.269 --> 01:34:30.092
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't it's it's it's it's it's a very much I go first.

01:34:30.132 --> 01:34:31.434
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what leaders have to get across.

01:34:31.774 --> 01:34:34.836
[UNKNOWN]: The leader who says, you know what, I'll trust them when they prove their to me.

01:34:34.896 --> 01:34:35.977
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, it doesn't work that way.

01:34:35.997 --> 01:34:36.757
[UNKNOWN]: You've got to go first.

01:34:37.217 --> 01:34:39.679
[UNKNOWN]: You've got to be vulnerable first, just like you're saying.

01:34:39.699 --> 01:34:41.440
[UNKNOWN]: You've got to give that person a chance too.

01:34:41.460 --> 01:34:42.380
[UNKNOWN]: You've got to give them the rope.

01:34:43.021 --> 01:34:44.802
[UNKNOWN]: And like I say, you give them the responsibility.

01:34:44.902 --> 01:34:46.323
[UNKNOWN]: You keep them at you keep accountability.

01:34:46.383 --> 01:34:48.984
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you also encourage accountability because they'll see that.

01:34:49.325 --> 01:34:50.825
[UNKNOWN]: But you need to model these behaviors.

01:34:50.845 --> 01:34:54.628
[UNKNOWN]: You want to be to model the behavior you want to see more of and then reward the behavior you want to see more of.

01:34:54.668 --> 01:34:54.948
[UNKNOWN]: And so,

01:34:55.548 --> 01:35:02.890
[UNKNOWN]: most teams and I think we could certainly make an argument for certain teams airing more towards certain of those factors.

01:35:02.930 --> 01:35:16.333
[UNKNOWN]: I think seal team confidence and consistency probably carry out maybe even more weight a little bit more weight than the other ones who knows Athletics probably carry out skills and competency and about carry more weight but at the end of the day all four factors are going to be involved and if we're not

01:35:17.433 --> 01:35:18.654
[UNKNOWN]: wary of all four factors.

01:35:18.674 --> 01:35:25.838
[UNKNOWN]: And we're not deliberately working on all four factors as leaders, we're going to have a very temporary trust.

01:35:26.699 --> 01:35:33.083
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, one of the things that we talk about at National Fund is the idea of what is a relationship.

01:35:33.764 --> 01:35:38.306
[UNKNOWN]: And we got five components of a relationship, trust, listen, respect, influence, and care.

01:35:39.287 --> 01:35:39.427
[UNKNOWN]: And

01:35:41.048 --> 01:35:44.049
[UNKNOWN]: The all those things in order to get them you have to give them.

01:35:44.270 --> 01:35:47.471
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, you know if I want you to listen to me I have to listen to you if I want you to trust me.

01:35:47.491 --> 01:35:58.056
[UNKNOWN]: I have to trust you if I want you to treat me with respect I got to shoot you with respect if I want to have influence over you I've got to allow you to influence me and if I want you to care about me I better show that I care about you

01:35:58.616 --> 01:36:02.179
[UNKNOWN]: And if you give those things to other people, they will reciprocate.

01:36:02.379 --> 01:36:06.361
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, will you end up with some one out of 20 people that's a sociopath?

01:36:06.381 --> 01:36:07.542
[UNKNOWN]: And that will try and take advantage.

01:36:07.562 --> 01:36:08.563
[UNKNOWN]: Yep, it'll be so obvious.

01:36:08.623 --> 01:36:10.264
[UNKNOWN]: It's not, it's actually no factor.

01:36:10.364 --> 01:36:10.464
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:36:10.484 --> 01:36:11.085
[UNKNOWN]: It's no factor.

01:36:11.845 --> 01:36:14.067
[UNKNOWN]: And that's why you give a little bit of trust into it.

01:36:14.087 --> 01:36:14.267
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:36:14.307 --> 01:36:14.707
[UNKNOWN]: It's a choice.

01:36:14.887 --> 01:36:16.428
[UNKNOWN]: It's a choice.

01:36:16.629 --> 01:36:18.970
[UNKNOWN]: We choose to trust people based on the way they behave.

01:36:18.990 --> 01:36:22.773
[UNKNOWN]: And if you think about someone you trust in your life, you do so because of the way they behaved, you made a choice.

01:36:23.473 --> 01:36:28.475
[UNKNOWN]: If you think about someone who trusts you, it's because you've behaved in a way that allows them to choose you.

01:36:28.935 --> 01:36:36.517
[UNKNOWN]: But I say the same thing about leadership, but I think one of the things I'll add to our leader's born or made, the big addition I would say is leaders are chosen.

01:36:37.177 --> 01:36:38.758
[UNKNOWN]: Because you can call yourself a leader all day long.

01:36:38.778 --> 01:36:41.359
[UNKNOWN]: If you don't have people following you, I got bad news for you, right?

01:36:41.739 --> 01:36:46.740
[UNKNOWN]: And so we behave in a way that allows someone to say that as someone I will follow.

01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:48.961
[UNKNOWN]: And that's why all of us had the experience in the military where,

01:36:49.341 --> 01:37:03.152
[UNKNOWN]: There'd be on occasion someone who's who outranked us above us in the Chanukman and we'd look at that person and say I wouldn't follow that person anywhere Me and while there's someone over here to the right who has no hierarchical position whatsoever I'd follow that person to hell and back and it's because of the way we behave So it's all about these behaviors.

01:37:03.172 --> 01:37:04.633
[UNKNOWN]: We have to go first in these behaviors.

01:37:04.693 --> 01:37:09.537
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's the the leadership on paper And then there's the leadership in reality.

01:37:09.557 --> 01:37:14.100
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would actually say the stuff on paper is being in charge and then the leadership is a reality right

01:37:15.401 --> 01:37:19.525
[UNKNOWN]: Number two, establish communication, number three, be vulnerable.

01:37:20.406 --> 01:37:24.749
[UNKNOWN]: Sharing strength and weakness is openly understanding that vulnerability means being transparent about both.

01:37:25.970 --> 01:37:31.595
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, if you're trying to... Key thing to remember about that, that'll keep you in mind, is everybody can see.

01:37:32.155 --> 01:37:33.375
[UNKNOWN]: There's no one that you're fooling.

01:37:33.415 --> 01:37:34.816
[UNKNOWN]: You act like you either.

01:37:34.856 --> 01:37:35.476
[UNKNOWN]: Know what you're doing.

01:37:35.496 --> 01:37:36.796
[UNKNOWN]: You act like you have a good plan.

01:37:36.816 --> 01:37:39.757
[UNKNOWN]: You act like you're able to, you act like you're competent.

01:37:39.777 --> 01:37:41.378
[UNKNOWN]: You act like you have good character.

01:37:42.358 --> 01:37:44.778
[UNKNOWN]: If you're trying to do that, everybody sees it.

01:37:44.818 --> 01:37:45.579
[UNKNOWN]: It looks fake.

01:37:45.659 --> 01:37:48.559
[UNKNOWN]: And the advantage, again, I'll say the, and I'm very,

01:37:50.700 --> 01:37:59.443
[UNKNOWN]: cognitive and I and I can see the fact that in the SEAL teams we had some of these advantages built in but what are the advantages of the SEAL team environment is the environment itself.

01:37:59.844 --> 01:38:01.844
[UNKNOWN]: The environment will keep you humble all day long.

01:38:01.864 --> 01:38:04.145
[UNKNOWN]: The ocean you turn back you're back on the ocean it will kill you.

01:38:04.165 --> 01:38:06.666
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care how good of a surfer you are it will kill you.

01:38:06.946 --> 01:38:10.488
[UNKNOWN]: Same thing at 50 at 20,000 feet jumping out of airplanes or whatever um

01:38:11.349 --> 01:38:26.566
[UNKNOWN]: The environment is deeply humbling, and so you are inculcated with a sense of humility right off the bat that's what Buds does and that translates that translates There's no one, I mean anybody and I don't think I ever saw it But obviously if we did if we saw someone on our team who refused to ever

01:38:27.487 --> 01:38:30.369
[UNKNOWN]: say they couldn't do something or admit their wrong that person's off the team.

01:38:30.469 --> 01:38:50.200
[UNKNOWN]: I mean we're not going to we're not going to work with that person no one will you know so so that humility is it's not just it but it's also I want to be emphasized it's not just about showing our weaknesses is about also emphasizing our strengths that's where the confidence comes in hey I am a Jeep I'm going to be good at this I'm going to be phenomenal for you at this can't really do that that's where we start to dynamically subordinate very effectively.

01:38:51.626 --> 01:38:57.190
[UNKNOWN]: And then create low risk opportunities for practice, which were what I kind of talked about with, like, hey, giving people the chance.

01:38:57.231 --> 01:39:01.174
[UNKNOWN]: And then, and then we go into this thing, you use the term up.

01:39:01.434 --> 01:39:07.659
[UNKNOWN]: The person quote, in charge, dynamic subordination doesn't eliminate the need for someone to be in charge.

01:39:09.480 --> 01:39:26.690
[UNKNOWN]: this individual as three critical rules cultivate trust which we talked about delegate responsibility pretty pretty straightforward and of course maintain accountability which is what I call ownership you own this is yours yes but how many I mean we've seen this to unfortunately wasn't too often

01:39:27.731 --> 01:39:29.512
[UNKNOWN]: where there was a leader who delegated both.

01:39:29.953 --> 01:39:30.613
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, for sure.

01:39:30.753 --> 01:39:32.274
[UNKNOWN]: And you just don't trust those people.

01:39:32.314 --> 01:39:36.497
[UNKNOWN]: And I could name a Kabai won't, but I could name a Kabai in my career that would do that.

01:39:36.517 --> 01:39:38.799
[UNKNOWN]: And I could also name the people who always held accountability.

01:39:38.819 --> 01:39:43.102
[UNKNOWN]: And again, by modeling that, it's not like you're taking a kind of ability away from that person.

01:39:43.442 --> 01:39:46.184
[UNKNOWN]: You're modeling that so that they understand what that means.

01:39:46.204 --> 01:39:46.945
[UNKNOWN]: And they will likely...

01:39:47.725 --> 01:39:52.011
[UNKNOWN]: maintain accountability as well, but we don't delegate responsibility and accountability.

01:39:52.031 --> 01:39:53.132
[UNKNOWN]: We delegate responsibility.

01:39:53.172 --> 01:39:54.755
[UNKNOWN]: We we own accountability.

01:39:55.696 --> 01:39:58.620
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, at least I least leaders do people in charge might not.

01:39:58.660 --> 01:40:03.386
[UNKNOWN]: So you've got a section which you you kind of mentioned already, but real leadership.

01:40:04.207 --> 01:40:05.288
[UNKNOWN]: and I'll fast forward here.

01:40:05.368 --> 01:40:07.631
[UNKNOWN]: True leaders don't celebrate or elevate themselves.

01:40:07.691 --> 01:40:11.775
[UNKNOWN]: Instead, they set the example for how they want their team members to perform.

01:40:11.795 --> 01:40:15.319
[UNKNOWN]: They seek opportunities to help and serve, considering no task beneath them.

01:40:15.339 --> 01:40:17.662
[UNKNOWN]: They go the extra mile to serve the mission shared by everyone.

01:40:17.962 --> 01:40:20.905
[UNKNOWN]: True leaders don't seek to stand out or be recognized as the leader.

01:40:20.925 --> 01:40:23.107
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, they don't even give themselves the label leader.

01:40:23.928 --> 01:40:26.030
[UNKNOWN]: It is given to them by their team members.

01:40:26.110 --> 01:40:32.075
[UNKNOWN]: True leaders are identifiable by having inspired followers eager to identify with them and be on their team.

01:40:32.636 --> 01:40:35.518
[UNKNOWN]: That's a lot different than, hey, I outrank you all, so you work for me.

01:40:35.538 --> 01:40:36.539
[UNKNOWN]: So they're a full-on leader.

01:40:36.759 --> 01:40:37.580
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's right.

01:40:37.840 --> 01:40:38.401
[UNKNOWN]: Which we see.

01:40:38.861 --> 01:40:39.802
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, definitely.

01:40:42.945 --> 01:40:44.466
[UNKNOWN]: Trust is a chapter eight.

01:40:44.826 --> 01:40:45.487
[UNKNOWN]: The frame.

01:40:46.247 --> 01:40:47.948
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so that gets into the four competencies.

01:40:47.968 --> 01:40:48.208
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:40:48.368 --> 01:40:48.628
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:40:49.208 --> 01:40:58.411
[UNKNOWN]: Competence do the right thing, consistency do the thing over and over again character do the right thing and then compassion do the right thing because you care These are things again.

01:40:58.431 --> 01:41:05.613
[UNKNOWN]: You got to build over time and they're gonna be helpful and then we get in chapter nine, which we've again We've touched on it already, but culture the engine.

01:41:05.953 --> 01:41:10.655
[UNKNOWN]: I've described dynamic coordination and trust the the necessary to sustain it

01:41:11.655 --> 01:41:17.178
[UNKNOWN]: But there are three other key elements of building and maintaining team culture necessary for long-term thriving.

01:41:17.698 --> 01:41:25.983
[UNKNOWN]: One, establish and leverage team identity to properly evaluate team performance three, bring in the right team members.

01:41:27.778 --> 01:41:32.280
[UNKNOWN]: We have to understand that there are people who just don't fit on teams.

01:41:32.340 --> 01:41:35.582
[UNKNOWN]: Every team has its own unique identity.

01:41:35.842 --> 01:41:41.825
[UNKNOWN]: And if we try to force someone into that equation that doesn't fit those behaviors, it's not going to work.

01:41:41.845 --> 01:41:42.985
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to turn toxic.

01:41:43.005 --> 01:41:45.246
[UNKNOWN]: And that person might be a fine person.

01:41:45.366 --> 01:41:47.587
[UNKNOWN]: This is the selection process for seals.

01:41:47.647 --> 01:41:53.090
[UNKNOWN]: The selection process is such because it's trying to distill these people who have this identity, the same type of identity.

01:41:53.750 --> 01:41:58.952
[UNKNOWN]: these behaviors and the selection process does it for us, but yes, establish the IMs.

01:41:58.972 --> 01:41:59.693
[UNKNOWN]: What does that look like?

01:42:00.573 --> 01:42:11.457
[UNKNOWN]: Bring in the, you know, model that stuff and then bring in the people, you know, form the right team and understand that the teams have to be set up in a way where you're maximizing everybody's, this is the be vulnerable.

01:42:11.597 --> 01:42:15.079
[UNKNOWN]: We're maximizing everybody's unique contribution.

01:42:15.219 --> 01:42:20.921
[UNKNOWN]: So we may have a low performer, but that person might be performing low because we have them in the wrong position.

01:42:21.341 --> 01:42:22.963
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and that's on us to do that.

01:42:23.003 --> 01:42:24.524
[UNKNOWN]: We shouldn't just be get rid of them.

01:42:24.544 --> 01:42:25.665
[UNKNOWN]: That's to see that might be these.

01:42:25.705 --> 01:42:26.586
[UNKNOWN]: I say it's an easy solution.

01:42:26.606 --> 01:42:27.427
[UNKNOWN]: Usually it's a hard solution.

01:42:27.447 --> 01:42:31.651
[UNKNOWN]: But it's on us if they're in a position that's not in the right seat on the bus.

01:42:31.791 --> 01:42:32.912
[UNKNOWN]: We have to put them in the right seat.

01:42:32.932 --> 01:42:33.673
[UNKNOWN]: And I had this happen.

01:42:33.693 --> 01:42:46.525
[UNKNOWN]: We had a, I was, it was deployed at a supply department and it was like half, uh, uh, innovative and and future outlook kind of acquisition types of half logistics log keeping type stuff.

01:42:47.225 --> 01:43:06.344
[UNKNOWN]: We had a sailor in the future's look section that was grossly underperforming like bringing down the rail I brought her into my office and I said to conversation I'd already done some of the attributes work I didn't have the nuance That I do now, but I recognized quite quickly that her attributes set did not match at all for what I was acting into luckily it was perfect

01:43:06.885 --> 01:43:10.268
[UNKNOWN]: So that was actually all I did was move her over for performance skyrocketed, you know.

01:43:10.768 --> 01:43:14.191
[UNKNOWN]: And so that was on me what I could have done because I got you're out of here.

01:43:14.231 --> 01:43:16.033
[UNKNOWN]: You're low perform a little bit of get out of here, right?

01:43:16.313 --> 01:43:20.437
[UNKNOWN]: That was the, that's the, I think that's the coward's way of doing it.

01:43:20.497 --> 01:43:28.543
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you have to, if you're there to truly empower the people that you are trying to lead, or hoping that they'll see you as a leader, you need to help them bring out the best in themselves.

01:43:28.563 --> 01:43:29.184
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm putting them right.

01:43:29.264 --> 01:43:32.805
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, in businesses, there's so many different things going on.

01:43:33.505 --> 01:43:43.547
[UNKNOWN]: So many different lines of operation that a lot of times, well, this person didn't quite fit there, but they have a good attitude, like, maybe they'll fit it in over here.

01:43:43.607 --> 01:43:44.307
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe they can do this.

01:43:44.507 --> 01:43:47.708
[UNKNOWN]: They might not be able to pull that off and that's exactly what we should always be doing.

01:43:48.248 --> 01:43:56.890
[UNKNOWN]: And I get asked a lot of times, no, I've got someone that just, they come in nine to five, four, fifty nine, they're clocked out, but you know what I got?

01:43:56.910 --> 01:43:57.970
[UNKNOWN]: What can I do to motivate them?

01:43:59.230 --> 01:44:00.330
[UNKNOWN]: Or you got a really good worker.

01:44:00.511 --> 01:44:02.431
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you got someone that's consistent shows up every day.

01:44:02.451 --> 01:44:03.452
[UNKNOWN]: That's all day.

01:44:03.492 --> 01:44:04.412
[UNKNOWN]: Their balance is good.

01:44:04.852 --> 01:44:08.914
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, I wouldn't discount them ever wanting to do more.

01:44:09.094 --> 01:44:11.715
[UNKNOWN]: But checking with them every six months, hey, is everything still going well?

01:44:11.735 --> 01:44:12.455
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm having a group.

01:44:12.555 --> 01:44:13.075
[UNKNOWN]: All solid.

01:44:13.215 --> 01:44:13.396
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:44:13.556 --> 01:44:15.516
[UNKNOWN]: You know, are you looking to get promoted?

01:44:15.997 --> 01:44:16.197
[UNKNOWN]: Well,

01:44:17.317 --> 01:44:23.162
[UNKNOWN]: Honestly, like I have three kids right now and it's wrestling season and you know, baby talked to me in, you know, in the spring.

01:44:23.342 --> 01:44:23.502
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:44:24.063 --> 01:44:24.363
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

01:44:24.543 --> 01:44:24.963
[UNKNOWN]: Sounds good.

01:44:25.024 --> 01:44:25.784
[UNKNOWN]: Check with them in the spring.

01:44:25.804 --> 01:44:27.005
[UNKNOWN]: Well, one of the kids is really well.

01:44:27.025 --> 01:44:27.686
[UNKNOWN]: We're sending them a camp.

01:44:27.706 --> 01:44:28.366
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to be driving.

01:44:28.426 --> 01:44:28.687
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

01:44:28.747 --> 01:44:28.927
[UNKNOWN]: Cool.

01:44:29.347 --> 01:44:30.888
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, you look up in two years.

01:44:30.908 --> 01:44:33.050
[UNKNOWN]: The guy says, you know what, I'm ready to, I'm ready to move up.

01:44:33.130 --> 01:44:34.051
[UNKNOWN]: I want some more responsibility.

01:44:34.071 --> 01:44:34.351
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

01:44:34.371 --> 01:44:34.551
[UNKNOWN]: Great.

01:44:34.812 --> 01:44:37.914
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the other, the other ugly truth of that might be is that I've had this happen.

01:44:37.934 --> 01:44:42.258
[UNKNOWN]: I've had leaders sometimes say, if these people, they're just, or I want our two people and they're just, they're just,

01:44:42.558 --> 01:45:06.853
[UNKNOWN]: they're there that at this time they're gone if so and I've dug into us like you know what the problem is here's it's your task organization your ability to prioritize because this person this leader was horrible they'd waste so much time throughout the day meanwhile these people were you're nine to five they were getting their shit done and there's like do this this they're very organized and getting their shit done so so economy of work also has to be like don't judge someone's economy work they might just be getting their shit done and they're balanced

01:45:12.116 --> 01:45:19.412
[UNKNOWN]: But my older daughters would spend so much time doing homework, hours and hours every day.

01:45:20.133 --> 01:45:21.696
[UNKNOWN]: My son, a lot less.

01:45:23.786 --> 01:45:24.987
[UNKNOWN]: Um, still great grades.

01:45:25.007 --> 01:45:25.207
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.

01:45:25.447 --> 01:45:25.827
[UNKNOWN]: Album.

01:45:27.368 --> 01:45:33.270
[UNKNOWN]: And, and also COVID, so you can kind of discount those a couple years, because my son figured out how to work that system.

01:45:34.150 --> 01:45:39.472
[UNKNOWN]: But I was talking to my youngest daughter who does not do as much homework, we'll say.

01:45:39.553 --> 01:45:39.773
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.

01:45:40.053 --> 01:45:41.613
[UNKNOWN]: As my older kids did.

01:45:41.633 --> 01:45:47.496
[UNKNOWN]: A. Austin, you know, your sisters, you should do three, four, five hours of homework a night.

01:45:48.256 --> 01:45:53.319
[UNKNOWN]: you're doing like a half an hour an hour and I was like, well, why is that?

01:45:53.440 --> 01:45:54.420
[UNKNOWN]: And you know what she said?

01:45:55.581 --> 01:45:56.342
[UNKNOWN]: I'm more efficient.

01:45:57.702 --> 01:46:00.024
[UNKNOWN]: She just, she just put out the word.

01:46:00.084 --> 01:46:00.584
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.

01:46:00.704 --> 01:46:02.145
[UNKNOWN]: I'm more efficient than they were.

01:46:02.246 --> 01:46:02.666
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

01:46:02.746 --> 01:46:02.926
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:46:03.126 --> 01:46:07.969
[UNKNOWN]: You know, my younger son, he'd the same thing and he was like, hey, Dad, I have, I have free blocks, free periods of school.

01:46:08.009 --> 01:46:10.391
[UNKNOWN]: I just go, I get my, I knock on my home or for I come home.

01:46:10.411 --> 01:46:12.052
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, and he has the greatest improvement.

01:46:12.072 --> 01:46:13.553
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's the same exact.

01:46:13.593 --> 01:46:14.494
[UNKNOWN]: My daughter said the same thing.

01:46:14.514 --> 01:46:17.216
[UNKNOWN]: She says, well, we get time in class and I get to work.

01:46:17.976 --> 01:46:44.307
[UNKNOWN]: so there you go efficiency that's where echo Charles claims a lot of around this unit right here claims a lot of efficiency you know a lot of efficiency it's called out on you say if everyone commit everyone on team commits to an identity they truly care about they are instantly bound together sharing not just values but also specific rules and conditions by which they uphold those values this is why many organizations display their values prominently you want something

01:46:47.408 --> 01:46:55.874
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, whatever section you're doing about culture and read the no-tom who they are, but you read the enron values of your world.

01:46:55.894 --> 01:46:56.474
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yes, yeah.

01:46:56.494 --> 01:47:02.138
[UNKNOWN]: The enron values are like, like the absolute highest standard of integrity.

01:47:02.499 --> 01:47:04.640
[UNKNOWN]: It's just the most epic thing to read.

01:47:04.660 --> 01:47:04.880
[UNKNOWN]: Right.

01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:08.002
[UNKNOWN]: Man, this must be a great, this must be a great organization.

01:47:08.363 --> 01:47:09.463
[UNKNOWN]: And it's freaking enron.

01:47:09.483 --> 01:47:13.586
[UNKNOWN]: And it's specifically about like integrity and all this stuff.

01:47:13.626 --> 01:47:15.368
[UNKNOWN]: It's so comical to see that that's

01:47:16.248 --> 01:47:18.649
[UNKNOWN]: what they are allegedly inspired to be.

01:47:18.829 --> 01:47:19.709
[UNKNOWN]: Well, this is a great example.

01:47:19.729 --> 01:47:23.910
[UNKNOWN]: Also, people don't do what you say they do what you do.

01:47:24.210 --> 01:47:25.590
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:47:25.710 --> 01:47:26.891
[UNKNOWN]: And kids are the same way, by the way.

01:47:27.931 --> 01:47:39.754
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I mean, if you purport that you're an organization does this, this, this, and you're doing the opposite, or you're not doing that, people, there's a reason why in certain commands you'd be like, oh, the skip is not here today and behavior range.

01:47:39.894 --> 01:47:40.854
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's a reason.

01:47:41.154 --> 01:47:45.035
[UNKNOWN]: So we have to be cognizant that our behavior is way more.

01:47:46.456 --> 01:47:51.983
[UNKNOWN]: Fakeness can be seen people will see what you're doing and whoever the leader is doing They they are setting the culture with their behavior.

01:47:52.143 --> 01:47:56.208
[UNKNOWN]: They really are that is the That is the foundation of so many problems.

01:47:56.228 --> 01:48:00.033
[UNKNOWN]: This is a lack of awareness and people think that people don't see what they're doing.

01:48:00.053 --> 01:48:00.294
[UNKNOWN]: That's right

01:48:01.455 --> 01:48:07.520
[UNKNOWN]: I learned this because as a young and listed guy, I was the youngest and most junior guy in my first two seal pollutants.

01:48:07.980 --> 01:48:14.746
[UNKNOWN]: So I was always watching, and man, the things that I would notice about my leadership three minutes late.

01:48:15.006 --> 01:48:17.508
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm just gonna say, oh, forgot a piece of gear.

01:48:17.648 --> 01:48:18.669
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, guess you didn't need it.

01:48:19.069 --> 01:48:23.133
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, didn't, you know, took his HP off in our perimeter.

01:48:23.893 --> 01:48:26.014
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, I guess that's what you're doing.

01:48:26.034 --> 01:48:29.556
[UNKNOWN]: You know, like it was always judging, always judging, always judging.

01:48:29.977 --> 01:48:33.839
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, they would act like none of us could see what they're doing.

01:48:34.019 --> 01:48:35.980
[UNKNOWN]: They would act like none of us could see what they're doing.

01:48:36.280 --> 01:48:38.642
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, you're crazy.

01:48:38.882 --> 01:48:40.823
[UNKNOWN]: You're crazy if you think we can't see this stuff.

01:48:41.303 --> 01:48:46.886
[UNKNOWN]: It was a level of arrogance to think that they're just a little bit smarter.

01:48:46.926 --> 01:48:48.327
[UNKNOWN]: No one can kind of see what's going on.

01:48:48.547 --> 01:48:49.508
[UNKNOWN]: No one can see what we're doing.

01:48:50.068 --> 01:48:56.276
[UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you, your troops can absolutely see what you do, you might as well own it.

01:48:56.837 --> 01:49:02.263
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I don't even say this to forgive even those who may not be as arrogant, it's just an ignorance.

01:49:02.864 --> 01:49:03.144
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:49:03.205 --> 01:49:07.430
[UNKNOWN]: And a blindness to say, because I think we've all been guilty once and a way.

01:49:07.490 --> 01:49:08.811
[UNKNOWN]: Certainly as a leader, I've been guilty of

01:49:09.632 --> 01:49:10.472
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, it doesn't matter.

01:49:10.772 --> 01:49:16.373
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I you know, it does I mean that's my behavior is not going to affect that I mean, it's just it matters matters.

01:49:16.673 --> 01:49:29.676
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I guess I do definitely I pin it on arrogance because I can't imagine someone thinking like oh The team if I show up a few minutes late that won't impact the team To me, it's like they're not going to see that I you know Showed a balloon.

01:49:29.696 --> 01:49:33.237
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, you know, so the maybe that's my blond spot thinking that someone could

01:49:34.397 --> 01:49:35.318
[UNKNOWN]: not think that.

01:49:35.498 --> 01:49:35.678
[UNKNOWN]: Right.

01:49:35.698 --> 01:49:35.898
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:49:36.038 --> 01:49:36.679
[UNKNOWN]: No.

01:49:36.879 --> 01:49:38.920
[UNKNOWN]: I think people just, they just don't know.

01:49:38.940 --> 01:49:41.022
[UNKNOWN]: There's an ignorance there sometimes that it doesn't.

01:49:41.222 --> 01:49:43.283
[UNKNOWN]: But again, not everybody's designed to be a leader.

01:49:44.044 --> 01:49:44.344
[UNKNOWN]: Through that?

01:49:44.364 --> 01:49:44.504
[UNKNOWN]: No.

01:49:44.624 --> 01:49:45.225
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not really not.

01:49:45.285 --> 01:49:45.405
[UNKNOWN]: No.

01:49:45.425 --> 01:49:45.605
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:49:46.346 --> 01:49:47.526
[UNKNOWN]: Um, evaluating performance.

01:49:47.586 --> 01:49:53.230
[UNKNOWN]: The behaviors of the list of I am statements also doubles performance evaluation tools.

01:49:53.691 --> 01:49:57.674
[UNKNOWN]: They allow you to clearly see if someone is acting in line with the team's values.

01:49:58.054 --> 01:50:00.295
[UNKNOWN]: Team members must uphold the values with

01:50:04.118 --> 01:50:15.607
[UNKNOWN]: if the team members operate according to different rules and conditions, they are out of alignment with identity, conduct, honest and supportive conversations about whether they can start enacting proper behaviors and what it might take to achieve that.

01:50:15.887 --> 01:50:16.568
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that's on front.

01:50:16.688 --> 01:50:24.494
[UNKNOWN]: We've got, we have our evaluations, our based on our principles of combat, right?

01:50:24.514 --> 01:50:27.776
[UNKNOWN]: So, cover move simple, prioritize next to decentralized command, extreme hardship.

01:50:28.056 --> 01:50:32.239
[UNKNOWN]: So, when we rank our employees, it's like, oh, yeah, hey, how do you think you're doing

01:50:33.100 --> 01:50:35.782
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, you know, are you doing a good job with simple fun?

01:50:36.062 --> 01:50:38.404
[UNKNOWN]: Do you understand what the priorities are how is your decentralized command?

01:50:38.444 --> 01:50:59.898
[UNKNOWN]: Are you empowering your people are you taking ownership like that's literally how we rank our people because those are those are our values those are that's our identity and that by the way stems into how they behave on a databases like if you have this very clear then in a decision making moments they can lean right on that I did right on that I am and it's very fast very it's actually the one I loved our seal

01:51:02.440 --> 01:51:05.282
[UNKNOWN]: ethos I really did but my one complaint was it was too complex.

01:51:05.843 --> 01:51:09.987
[UNKNOWN]: It was just too many words You could not you know the trainees memorize it.

01:51:10.007 --> 01:51:16.053
[UNKNOWN]: They forget it as soon as they yeah, we couldn't lean on it It needed to be simple and like this is This is it.

01:51:16.373 --> 01:51:17.374
[UNKNOWN]: I was there when we wrote that.

01:51:17.494 --> 01:51:20.577
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think you remember you saying yeah, and I was I was like mr.

01:51:20.597 --> 01:51:20.917
[UNKNOWN]: Simplicity

01:51:22.098 --> 01:51:28.482
[UNKNOWN]: And I literally asked the group, I said, hey, are we writing this for the O5 and above, or are we writing this for the E5s?

01:51:28.823 --> 01:51:31.745
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that E5s, this shouldn't be directed at them.

01:51:31.785 --> 01:51:38.869
[UNKNOWN]: This should be directed at the E5s that are coming in the teams that are out, you know, doing things without supervision.

01:51:39.089 --> 01:51:40.430
[UNKNOWN]: This is what's going to supervise them.

01:51:40.651 --> 01:51:40.811
[UNKNOWN]: Right.

01:51:41.051 --> 01:51:42.872
[UNKNOWN]: And I made a little bit of trust to me.

01:51:42.892 --> 01:51:47.095
[UNKNOWN]: If I wanted to say that stuff, this would have been a Shakespearean Saliloquy.

01:51:48.576 --> 01:51:55.761
[UNKNOWN]: And they did have a like a flip side to the card that was like four things and I forget what they were.

01:51:56.221 --> 01:51:59.884
[UNKNOWN]: But they did simply, they made like a fully simplified version.

01:52:00.464 --> 01:52:04.287
[UNKNOWN]: But again, yeah, I thought it was a little bit too verbose.

01:52:04.467 --> 01:52:11.432
[UNKNOWN]: It's beautiful and it's great for a retirement and change a command, but you kind of remember it in the ship.

01:52:11.572 --> 01:52:14.234
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, we used to do something with clients.

01:52:14.274 --> 01:52:16.336
[UNKNOWN]: We would do something called mission and mantra.

01:52:16.356 --> 01:52:19.037
[UNKNOWN]: We would have them right out a mission statement.

01:52:19.278 --> 01:52:20.919
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, the mission statement could be.

01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:35.978
[UNKNOWN]: 3, 4, 5 sentences long, but even that, you know, you get to 4, 5 sentences, it's hard for a, you know, a person on the front lines to keep that front of mind, so we'd come up with mantras that they could then within their different departments.

01:52:36.278 --> 01:52:39.682
[UNKNOWN]: So you know, the logistics part might have the mantra on time on target the sales.

01:52:40.323 --> 01:52:43.065
[UNKNOWN]: might have the mantra of customers always, whatever.

01:52:43.305 --> 01:52:46.688
[UNKNOWN]: But then those would be tied back into the mission of the organization.

01:52:46.708 --> 01:52:48.489
[UNKNOWN]: So mission and mantra, it's a good drill.

01:52:48.829 --> 01:52:50.531
[UNKNOWN]: And we kind of did that again.

01:52:50.551 --> 01:52:59.057
[UNKNOWN]: I think that the C. Leethos was and is needed and then breaking it down and again, I forget they called like the the shorter version of it.

01:52:59.097 --> 01:53:03.180
[UNKNOWN]: But it obviously didn't get a proper situation if you didn't even

01:53:04.160 --> 01:53:31.007
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember saying here's a good question for you and I have I have some and I have my own answers But if you were to boil down the seal the Navy seal identity into two or three sentences Two or three I am statements what would those be I would have to like think about it But out of the gate is I will never quit because I think that I don't think there's any one that would disagree with that

01:53:35.316 --> 01:53:43.521
[UNKNOWN]: I think there has to be something about taking care or I will execute the mission and I think the last part is I will take care of my brothers.

01:53:44.141 --> 01:53:44.681
[UNKNOWN]: I totally agree.

01:53:44.701 --> 01:53:58.289
[UNKNOWN]: So the two that I thought of rather bad is I will never quit and I will take care of my teammates because that is core to everything we believe and if I'll even in civilian life and it's been 10 years now since retirement more for you I know but

01:53:58.809 --> 01:54:15.175
[UNKNOWN]: But that's still very true and the way I behave even in right, really, your society is, you know, I always like the thing in that team, so I was like, don't be that guy and the whole don't be that guy was this idea that never be the person who is behaving in a way that inhibits or slows your team.

01:54:15.635 --> 01:54:22.337
[UNKNOWN]: You know, so if it means that you have your luggage ready when you're putting in the overhead, you know, and you're going to realize which drives me fucking bananas, right?

01:54:23.418 --> 01:54:41.821
[UNKNOWN]: or having everything you just don't be that guy and so so yeah those it's a tricky thing but I think buds I think buds even to some degree even accomplish the mission might not be as drilled as hard as those other two things is I will not quit and I will not let down my teammates those are the

01:54:42.321 --> 01:54:43.362
[UNKNOWN]: Those would be the two I chose.

01:54:43.382 --> 01:54:45.203
[UNKNOWN]: I think accomplish the mission gets there too.

01:54:45.843 --> 01:54:52.206
[UNKNOWN]: But we all know that, you know, sometimes, sometimes, and we've talked about that, sometimes the best course of action in the moment is to actually quit the mission.

01:54:52.226 --> 01:54:53.727
[UNKNOWN]: It's actually turned around, right?

01:54:53.767 --> 01:55:02.091
[UNKNOWN]: So, so the accomplish the mission becomes something we can by by retreating now, we can live to fight another day type thing, but it's certainly those two.

01:55:02.111 --> 01:55:03.052
[UNKNOWN]: So, yeah.

01:55:03.672 --> 01:55:03.792
[UNKNOWN]: And,

01:55:05.850 --> 01:55:14.633
[UNKNOWN]: To me, you know, one of the things that I've explained to many young seal leaders over the years is taking care of your brothers and how that gets warped.

01:55:14.773 --> 01:55:14.973
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.

01:55:15.313 --> 01:55:26.817
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, unfortunate ways because, you know, take care of that from day one, you get on boot camp, take care of your people, take care of your people, you get to the teams, take care of your brothers, take care of your team, team first, all that stuff.

01:55:27.017 --> 01:55:32.159
[UNKNOWN]: But then it's like, hey, Rich, Rich wants to, you know, head home early for the weekend instead of finished training.

01:55:33.039 --> 01:55:34.319
[UNKNOWN]: it's like, well, you don't want to take care of Rich.

01:55:34.339 --> 01:55:34.780
[UNKNOWN]: So go ahead.

01:55:35.420 --> 01:55:35.660
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

01:55:35.680 --> 01:55:39.421
[UNKNOWN]: Now Rich wants to, you know, he got in trouble, but I'm going to cover it up for him because I'm going to take care of Rich.

01:55:39.601 --> 01:55:39.901
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

01:55:39.921 --> 01:55:43.042
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and you look up and all of a sudden, Rich is in real trouble.

01:55:43.142 --> 01:55:43.362
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.

01:55:43.462 --> 01:55:47.744
[UNKNOWN]: And he's got real problems because I didn't take it or he or even worse, he's not prepared for combat.

01:55:48.084 --> 01:55:49.264
[UNKNOWN]: And now we have problems in combat.

01:55:49.664 --> 01:56:00.228
[UNKNOWN]: So taking care of your brothers means you're making sure that they're doing everything they can be, they can do to be ready to accomplish the mission.

01:56:00.888 --> 01:56:01.308
[UNKNOWN]: And so,

01:56:01.828 --> 01:56:17.672
[UNKNOWN]: This is by the way, I will say, again, there's a joke as you know in the teams between officers who are Academy guys or OCS or Razi, you know, and that the joke, the running joke is the Academy guys are a little bit more stuffy and things like that, which is really largely not true.

01:56:18.572 --> 01:56:24.414
[UNKNOWN]: However, one of the things I noticed, I was the only Razi guy to make it through my Buds class, all the rest were Academy guys.

01:56:24.434 --> 01:56:29.135
[UNKNOWN]: So all my buddies, they made me an honorary Academy guy, which is great, because I would have never made in the Academy event.

01:56:29.775 --> 01:56:38.018
[UNKNOWN]: But I was thinking about this identity thing, and in most cases what I saw in the Naval Academy officers was something very interesting.

01:56:38.498 --> 01:56:49.201
[UNKNOWN]: And that is, in the Naval Academy, you are for four years inculcated with this identity of Naval Officer, Naval Officer, Naval Officer, Naval Officer, everything about Naval Officer.

01:56:49.521 --> 01:56:52.722
[UNKNOWN]: And then, once they finish the academy, they go to Sealtrain and become a Navy Seal.

01:56:54.218 --> 01:56:55.639
[UNKNOWN]: Razi guys, I'll just speak for myself.

01:56:55.799 --> 01:56:57.579
[UNKNOWN]: We're not inculcated with that much.

01:56:57.619 --> 01:57:03.221
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Razi is joke is the easiest commissioning source, because you drill once a week, you do some stuff here in Officer, right?

01:57:03.982 --> 01:57:08.583
[UNKNOWN]: So coming into the teams, the Navy Seal Identity is a very powerful one.

01:57:08.723 --> 01:57:13.385
[UNKNOWN]: And you have to consistently remind yourself of the officer of the Naval Officer Identity.

01:57:13.985 --> 01:57:17.887
[UNKNOWN]: If you prioritize Navy Seal Identity over Naval Officer Identity,

01:57:18.407 --> 01:57:24.071
[UNKNOWN]: There are situations where that's going to get you in trouble and we've seen it because then you're saying, then you're getting the thing, oh, take care of the boy's type of thing.

01:57:24.091 --> 01:57:24.952
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care what's going on.

01:57:25.652 --> 01:57:43.504
[UNKNOWN]: So I always found that my academy counter-par, certainly that guys, my friends and the guys I worked with, I just admired their solidness of that naval officer identity and they brought forth that and for them it was Naval Officer, Navy Seal.

01:57:43.544 --> 01:57:44.665
[UNKNOWN]: And I admittedly for me it was like,

01:57:44.785 --> 01:57:49.411
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe I really work to get that other piece so so it is it does matter.

01:57:49.451 --> 01:58:01.207
[UNKNOWN]: It does matter and the question then becomes for the enlisted guy It's even quote worse because and it was for actually many years when they were starting to do that very specialized stuff for seal candidates at bootcamp They were separating them early

01:58:01.748 --> 01:58:21.335
[UNKNOWN]: they were creating these guys entitled guys right and so for them they didn't take taken to account that hey if you create a person whose whole thing is navy seal and that's the number one thing versus I serve this country I'm a servant to the people of this country you're going to have issues when when when the hard decisions start to need to be made so identity is important it really is

01:58:21.975 --> 01:58:24.496
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, um, the don't quit thing.

01:58:24.976 --> 01:58:28.998
[UNKNOWN]: And this is something that I wrote about it in leadership strategy and tactics.

01:58:29.558 --> 01:58:33.780
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we take a guy, we take a like a hallway and we put a barricaded sugar at the end of the hallway.

01:58:34.220 --> 01:58:37.342
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, the hall boss whoever it was would send two guys down the hallway, they get killed.

01:58:37.562 --> 01:58:38.142
[UNKNOWN]: This is paintball.

01:58:38.162 --> 01:58:38.662
[UNKNOWN]: This is training.

01:58:38.962 --> 01:58:39.723
[UNKNOWN]: They get killed paintball.

01:58:40.083 --> 01:58:40.423
[UNKNOWN]: What do you do?

01:58:40.523 --> 01:58:42.324
[UNKNOWN]: Two more guys.

01:58:42.344 --> 01:58:42.864
[UNKNOWN]: What happens to them?

01:58:42.904 --> 01:58:43.384
[UNKNOWN]: They get killed.

01:58:43.685 --> 01:58:44.165
[UNKNOWN]: Two more guys.

01:58:44.185 --> 01:58:44.645
[UNKNOWN]: They get killed.

01:58:45.185 --> 01:58:57.355
[UNKNOWN]: And we would have young seal officers, in many cases, young seal officers who have, you know, they're out of buds, don't quit, don't quit, don't quit, don't quit, to not go down that hallway is mission failure.

01:58:57.975 --> 01:59:04.760
[UNKNOWN]: And so even the don't quit thing, you have to be, you know, every one of these things, there's a dichotomy of all of this.

01:59:04.840 --> 01:59:05.401
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, there is.

01:59:05.421 --> 01:59:08.263
[UNKNOWN]: You get to the end degree and you're going to have a problem.

01:59:08.723 --> 01:59:12.146
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the other thing with the, the reason that mission, I think, popped into my head.

01:59:12.846 --> 01:59:23.616
[UNKNOWN]: is because if you don't prioritize mission accomplishment, then a lot of other things can start to take a priority.

01:59:23.656 --> 01:59:24.437
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes.

01:59:24.837 --> 01:59:26.679
[UNKNOWN]: And so we have one job.

01:59:27.220 --> 01:59:32.124
[UNKNOWN]: You know, something I told my guys was like, hey, if you, this is, we get to our body.

01:59:32.424 --> 01:59:34.847
[UNKNOWN]: We get to our body and I'm like, hey, because there's no drinking a lot.

01:59:36.087 --> 01:59:46.152
[UNKNOWN]: If you want to jeopardize us being able to conduct operations because you want to do some shit that you're not supposed to be doing, I'm going to send you out of here immediately and you will not become in back.

01:59:46.712 --> 01:59:51.415
[UNKNOWN]: Because if you're going to disrupt the opportunity that we have to kill the enemy,

01:59:52.795 --> 01:59:53.236
[UNKNOWN]: you're gone.

01:59:53.276 --> 01:59:53.436
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:59:53.916 --> 02:00:00.502
[UNKNOWN]: And so, but if you pull the mission out of that, well, you know, we, we want to kind of like, you know, enjoy ourselves, too.

02:00:00.642 --> 02:00:10.070
[UNKNOWN]: Or whatever case, maybe it's like, no, so that having that mission top of mind and plus, I always thought that with the ultimate trump carded when I was running training.

02:00:10.870 --> 02:00:13.973
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm the, I'm the, you know, the OIC of the training attachment.

02:00:14.794 --> 02:00:17.836
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, I used to say, guys, if you get in trouble,

02:00:19.117 --> 02:00:23.639
[UNKNOWN]: and you can't go back to a team and go on deployment, you're doing alchitis job for that.

02:00:24.599 --> 02:00:26.360
[UNKNOWN]: You're taking yourself off the battlefield.

02:00:27.220 --> 02:00:32.962
[UNKNOWN]: So having that mission focus, taking care of your brothers, which you should be in all those important ways.

02:00:33.442 --> 02:00:36.704
[UNKNOWN]: And then never quit because we don't give up.

02:00:37.284 --> 02:00:39.185
[UNKNOWN]: Now, are there times where we make a tactical retreat?

02:00:39.525 --> 02:00:40.605
[UNKNOWN]: Hell, yeah, they're better be.

02:00:40.645 --> 02:00:42.006
[UNKNOWN]: You better have an open mind to that.

02:00:42.426 --> 02:00:45.627
[UNKNOWN]: So I think those would be the three that I would end up with.

02:00:45.767 --> 02:00:47.188
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you mentioned something really important there.

02:00:47.208 --> 02:00:49.089
[UNKNOWN]: I actually wrote a blog post on this and I titled it.

02:00:49.209 --> 02:00:52.771
[UNKNOWN]: It's okay to quit just never give up Yeah, and I separated the difference.

02:00:52.831 --> 02:00:56.234
[UNKNOWN]: You know, because I I tell the story There's three out of the hundreds of missions.

02:00:56.274 --> 02:00:59.195
[UNKNOWN]: I did there are three occasions where I turned around I basically quit that week.

02:00:59.356 --> 02:01:02.998
[UNKNOWN]: I quit the mission for us because everything wasn't lining up I think we talked about this last time

02:01:04.159 --> 02:01:05.119
[UNKNOWN]: But that's not giving up.

02:01:05.400 --> 02:01:07.781
[UNKNOWN]: That's just quitting in the moment because what we're doing is not right.

02:01:07.801 --> 02:01:11.925
[UNKNOWN]: And so we have to make that distinction in terms of in terms of quit or give up.

02:01:11.985 --> 02:01:13.166
[UNKNOWN]: And I think you're correct about that.

02:01:13.206 --> 02:01:17.229
[UNKNOWN]: And I will say this, mission accomplishment also, it comes with nuance.

02:01:17.389 --> 02:01:19.590
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if you are in a hostage rescue mission,

02:01:20.471 --> 02:01:31.622
[UNKNOWN]: the intensity of the accomplishment of that operation is going to be different than say you're going for the top facilitator of whatever of this thing.

02:01:31.642 --> 02:01:40.991
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to put more emphasis for example on making sure we're doing safe movement when I'm getting the facilitator versus hostage rescue.

02:01:41.852 --> 02:01:42.452
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is it.

02:01:43.033 --> 02:01:43.974
[UNKNOWN]: This is our business, right?

02:01:44.014 --> 02:01:45.976
[UNKNOWN]: So everything becomes about that hostage.

02:01:46.396 --> 02:01:49.780
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, that nuance has to be explained and described as well.

02:01:49.860 --> 02:01:51.562
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like you said, it's all a gray area.

02:01:51.762 --> 02:01:51.962
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

02:01:52.243 --> 02:01:53.264
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

02:01:54.325 --> 02:01:55.206
[UNKNOWN]: Fast forward a little bit.

02:01:55.226 --> 02:01:56.547
[UNKNOWN]: We can close the end of this thing, but

02:01:57.429 --> 02:02:04.258
[UNKNOWN]: Bringing in the right team members skills can be taught and experiences can be gained, but attributes and identity are much harder to change and far more important.

02:02:04.618 --> 02:02:13.510
[UNKNOWN]: Focus your hiring on attributes and identity and your team will be more sustainably able to perform as needed, especially when it counts.

02:02:13.750 --> 02:02:14.531
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.

02:02:14.711 --> 02:02:21.478
[UNKNOWN]: That's the new guy who is now a Navy SEAL, and you say, hey, you're our jump master, and the guy's never jumped before, right?

02:02:21.838 --> 02:02:24.881
[UNKNOWN]: You are inculcating an identity.

02:02:24.901 --> 02:02:31.568
[UNKNOWN]: That person's well, okay, I know nothing about this skill, but my identity as a Navy SEAL is I'm not going to let go of my teammates, so I'm going to figure everything out, right?

02:02:31.608 --> 02:02:35.271
[UNKNOWN]: So inculcate those core elements, and you'll have performance.

02:02:35.512 --> 02:02:35.672
[UNKNOWN]: So,

02:02:36.492 --> 02:02:38.134
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to close out the book with this.

02:02:38.874 --> 02:02:43.899
[UNKNOWN]: Life is an unpredictable voyage filled with challenges that test our resilience adaptability encouraged.

02:02:44.119 --> 02:02:48.763
[UNKNOWN]: These moments have uncertainty are not obstacles to be feared, but opportunities to be seized.

02:02:49.563 --> 02:03:00.493
[UNKNOWN]: They are the crucibles in which our true capabilities are forged and refined by recognizing and cultivating our innate attributes we equip ourselves to navigate these turbulent waters with confidence and grace.

02:03:01.573 --> 02:03:04.094
[UNKNOWN]: The journey of self-discovery and growth is ongoing.

02:03:04.134 --> 02:03:07.115
[UNKNOWN]: It requires a commitment to continuous reflection and development.

02:03:07.175 --> 02:03:16.177
[UNKNOWN]: It demands that we remain open to new experiences, willing to learn from our successes and our failures and ready to adapt to ever-changing circumstances.

02:03:16.317 --> 02:03:24.419
[UNKNOWN]: In this journey, every step no matter how small contributes to our overall growth and prepares us for the challenges ahead.

02:03:26.940 --> 02:03:27.380
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.

02:03:27.661 --> 02:03:28.061
[UNKNOWN]: There it is.

02:03:28.101 --> 02:03:28.541
[UNKNOWN]: It's all there.

02:03:28.701 --> 02:03:30.843
[UNKNOWN]: Prepare for uncertainty.

02:03:31.103 --> 02:03:32.024
[UNKNOWN]: That's what we need to do.

02:03:33.645 --> 02:03:34.685
[UNKNOWN]: What uncertainties do you have ahead?

02:03:34.705 --> 02:03:35.346
[UNKNOWN]: What do you got going on?

02:03:35.366 --> 02:03:35.786
[UNKNOWN]: What's next?

02:03:36.366 --> 02:03:38.068
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we're like I said before.

02:03:38.268 --> 02:03:41.310
[UNKNOWN]: We're building a brand new platform for our assessment tool.

02:03:41.350 --> 02:03:44.392
[UNKNOWN]: So that's taken a pretty sizeable.

02:03:44.412 --> 02:03:45.433
[UNKNOWN]: That's an digital platform.

02:03:45.573 --> 02:03:50.776
[UNKNOWN]: Be a digital platform that allows for clients to interact with the assessment in a more meaningful way.

02:03:50.936 --> 02:03:52.377
[UNKNOWN]: They can use it for hiring.

02:03:52.397 --> 02:03:53.738
[UNKNOWN]: They can use their performance evaluating.

02:03:53.758 --> 02:03:54.719
[UNKNOWN]: They can see how people

02:03:56.600 --> 02:04:17.450
[UNKNOWN]: based on attributes and they can predict that so that's a really cool project my wife and I we run the company together So it's it's a dive into uncertainty because there's risk there, you know And you never know what's gonna happen, but but this a fun thing I mean again, I think again calculated risks are are what we do and And again like I said my my son and I are getting our policy license so there's uncertainty there

02:04:18.550 --> 02:04:23.133
[UNKNOWN]: Especially when you're close to the air, you're in the landing pattern and you don't want to stall, right?

02:04:23.273 --> 02:04:23.733
[UNKNOWN]: But it's fun.

02:04:23.853 --> 02:04:25.894
[UNKNOWN]: So I think we have to stretch ourselves.

02:04:25.954 --> 02:04:28.336
[UNKNOWN]: One of the things that excites me about this is obviously this stuff.

02:04:28.516 --> 02:04:30.917
[UNKNOWN]: I think will help people when uncertainty hits without warning.

02:04:31.438 --> 02:04:37.181
[UNKNOWN]: But the key thing is if you get really good at this stuff, you start finding yourself deliberately stepping into uncertainty.

02:04:37.201 --> 02:04:39.842
[UNKNOWN]: And that's where all the growth and evolution for us is human beings happen.

02:04:39.862 --> 02:04:40.923
[UNKNOWN]: That's where our potential is found.

02:04:41.603 --> 02:04:50.873
[UNKNOWN]: And that's one of the secrets that we come out of the sealed teams with as we are comfortable exploring our potential and we're good at doing this stuff We know how to do it so everybody has that opportunity.

02:04:51.153 --> 02:04:59.982
[UNKNOWN]: No doubt Where can people find you you got the attributes dot com the attributes dot com yeah, we got on it on social media You're at rich underscore divini

02:05:00.883 --> 02:05:06.327
[UNKNOWN]: And then on Twitter, you're at Rich Divinity and also Facebook at Rich Divinity.

02:05:06.347 --> 02:05:08.268
[UNKNOWN]: And LinkedIn also at Rich Divinity.

02:05:08.288 --> 02:05:13.092
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so yeah, all those places, website you can find all the stuff we do, obviously the books are on Amazon.

02:05:14.313 --> 02:05:16.094
[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, they can stop.

02:05:16.134 --> 02:05:18.596
[UNKNOWN]: I take the assessment, try that out, figure out where your attributes are.

02:05:19.297 --> 02:05:21.298
[UNKNOWN]: And if you need us come, come, come get us.

02:05:21.398 --> 02:05:23.620
[UNKNOWN]: Figure out where you rank in courage at her choice.

02:05:24.140 --> 02:05:26.320
[UNKNOWN]: You remember, Low Curves has advantages by the way.

02:05:26.381 --> 02:05:43.984
[UNKNOWN]: He wants to say, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

02:05:47.465 --> 02:05:48.766
[UNKNOWN]: the ability to soften your gaze.

02:05:48.786 --> 02:05:53.250
[UNKNOWN]: So if I were to ask you to stare at the point in the wall and then as you're staring at that, there's just go soft with your gaze.

02:05:53.270 --> 02:05:54.471
[UNKNOWN]: You begin to notice your periphery.

02:05:54.751 --> 02:05:55.512
[UNKNOWN]: That's open gaze.

02:05:55.532 --> 02:06:00.956
[UNKNOWN]: And what that's doing is that is bringing down your automobiles because when we get automatically around, we focus in on the threat.

02:06:01.897 --> 02:06:04.699
[UNKNOWN]: Open gaze at that soft gaze brings, it's calm.

02:06:04.719 --> 02:06:06.761
[UNKNOWN]: That's why we sit on a beach and get calm.

02:06:07.181 --> 02:06:26.542
[UNKNOWN]: We're looking at the horizon or or or landscape or whatever we want to do so, but martial artists and and fighters know this, you know, and our reaction time actually increases when we're open gaze if we're not totally focused in so so that's a real quick one when I used to start getting on stage I got on the stage and I just kind of look at the back wall and just go open gaze and feel myself calm down a little bit.

02:06:26.622 --> 02:06:38.769
[UNKNOWN]: So it's like the opposite of tunnel vision opposite of tunnel vision and the tunnel vision yes, yeah, but but you can manually do it Yeah, it's like literally me right in a set like look around It's gonna calm you down.

02:06:38.849 --> 02:06:50.555
[UNKNOWN]: You you look around you see the bigger picture as opposed to you hear machine gun For you just look at that thing like look there's almost what's that tunnel vision and it's bad Yeah, you ever see those computer generated art things.

02:06:50.675 --> 02:06:51.996
[UNKNOWN]: They got to look through or whatever

02:06:53.577 --> 02:06:57.801
[UNKNOWN]: And it's only when you, well, it's, and it's only when most of those when you soften your gays and think pops out, right?

02:06:57.821 --> 02:06:58.321
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:06:58.341 --> 02:07:00.703
[UNKNOWN]: When you're not focused on it, you've got to focus kind of.

02:07:00.903 --> 02:07:02.304
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so that's a quick one.

02:07:02.524 --> 02:07:03.585
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, kind of same thing.

02:07:03.605 --> 02:07:10.851
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if I mentioned this last time, but the yawning before something's going like for football games in the locker room might be yawning all the time.

02:07:10.871 --> 02:07:11.992
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm not tired enough.

02:07:12.032 --> 02:07:13.033
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just yawning all the time.

02:07:13.053 --> 02:07:16.095
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, in fact, I just remember it's that tried gin, tried gemional nerve.

02:07:16.656 --> 02:07:17.096
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.

02:07:17.156 --> 02:07:17.657
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, yeah, it's a

02:07:18.338 --> 02:07:29.293
[UNKNOWN]: But it actually starts to force you stuff to breathe in a certain way that starts to calm you.

02:07:29.413 --> 02:07:32.678
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, if you're nervous and you start yawning, which I used to do before jumps, I'd be up.

02:07:33.238 --> 02:07:34.499
[UNKNOWN]: You bet on the right up at the yawning.

02:07:34.519 --> 02:07:35.920
[UNKNOWN]: I was like the hell's going on right now.

02:07:36.360 --> 02:07:47.547
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, it's it's your body's way of getting more getting more oxygen breathing out that That's it by the way when you see your buddy and you're on the sky dive and you seem like in the plane is yawning you think man He's so relaxed and so chill That's that

02:07:54.932 --> 02:07:56.975
[UNKNOWN]: 3,000 foot with freaking combat equipment.

02:07:57.015 --> 02:07:57.475
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

02:07:57.836 --> 02:07:58.136
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

02:07:58.376 --> 02:07:59.878
[UNKNOWN]: It's freaking a witch.

02:08:00.118 --> 02:08:04.283
[UNKNOWN]: Your pilot's like, when did you start pursuing your pilot?

02:08:04.303 --> 02:08:06.686
[UNKNOWN]: You literally just started about a month and a half ago.

02:08:06.987 --> 02:08:08.268
[UNKNOWN]: And how many hours do you have?

02:08:08.288 --> 02:08:10.251
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we each have like five or six right now.

02:08:10.451 --> 02:08:10.911
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.

02:08:11.392 --> 02:08:17.118
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so like my twin brother who's a harrier pilot right he has like any's a FedEx pilot now He has five thousand hours.

02:08:17.138 --> 02:08:27.227
[UNKNOWN]: I saw him this last week and I was like, okay I got some shit for you because I got five hours just so you know if I anything Yeah, so we're at the beginning stages He's on the grid, yeah, yeah, I got zero.

02:08:27.267 --> 02:08:29.850
[UNKNOWN]: It's too far so you say a little bit different

02:08:30.150 --> 02:08:34.274
[UNKNOWN]: So when's the, as far as hours go, when's like the, what do you call it like a bench?

02:08:34.334 --> 02:08:38.878
[UNKNOWN]: Typically, typically, well, solo, you do a solo around 20, 15, 20.

02:08:39.298 --> 02:08:40.699
[UNKNOWN]: But then you get your license.

02:08:41.100 --> 02:08:42.701
[UNKNOWN]: Usually it takes people off 50 hours.

02:08:42.741 --> 02:08:44.482
[UNKNOWN]: But it really depends on how often you're flying.

02:08:44.903 --> 02:08:46.184
[UNKNOWN]: And then how quickly you pick it up.

02:08:46.224 --> 02:08:50.488
[UNKNOWN]: And so someone who's flying every single day could get their license in 40 hours.

02:08:51.569 --> 02:08:53.290
[UNKNOWN]: And that's just private pilot VFR.

02:08:53.310 --> 02:08:54.231
[UNKNOWN]: That's visual flight rules.

02:08:54.651 --> 02:09:15.788
[UNKNOWN]: the idea is then you get IFR which is instrument and if you want to go further you can get multi-engine and jet and all that stuff but um i just it is i love driving anything anything to drive motorcycles cars boats you know four cliffs whatever i've always wanted to drive an airplane or fly it's an ultimate driving because you're you're doing it across all the dimensions are you going to buy a plane

02:09:16.148 --> 02:09:16.948
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, that's the goal.

02:09:17.168 --> 02:09:18.669
[UNKNOWN]: What do you have when I identify it?

02:09:18.689 --> 02:09:21.930
[UNKNOWN]: Well, okay, so should the company do what I wanted to do?

02:09:22.090 --> 02:09:40.015
[UNKNOWN]: I'd love to my ultimate goal is to get one of those serious vision jets because those are pretty bad ass until then, you know, it may be a single engine proper something, but, but, but, you know, planes, we're at the serious vision jet and on the other end, the assessment.

02:09:40.375 --> 02:09:45.860
[UNKNOWN]: So hey, everyone go to the atributes.com and start to buy some books.

02:09:45.880 --> 02:09:46.800
[UNKNOWN]: There's some books, please.

02:09:46.821 --> 02:09:48.062
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I'm sorry.

02:09:48.282 --> 02:09:49.383
[UNKNOWN]: We'll put a counter on that.

02:09:50.363 --> 02:09:53.206
[UNKNOWN]: Accessments and television yet, right?

02:09:53.646 --> 02:09:56.468
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's just, it's a very, we have my family grew up flying.

02:09:56.689 --> 02:09:57.529
[UNKNOWN]: My brother's flown.

02:09:57.649 --> 02:09:58.070
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, he's,

02:09:58.750 --> 02:10:10.458
[UNKNOWN]: He's doing his own you know, he was he was a he was a harrier pilot who is the one guy who survived his harrier crash And he crashed his harrier inverted in the water and ejected inverted in the water.

02:10:10.498 --> 02:10:14.981
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and survived So he's actually held that he survived was he high enough Fuffley slowed down.

02:10:15.001 --> 02:10:22.647
[UNKNOWN]: He was under he was no he's already underwater the plane was in the plane was inverted already and he ejected into the water I mean, so no heat the plane was in the water.

02:10:22.667 --> 02:10:25.669
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the plane crashed inverted and then he ejected.

02:10:25.689 --> 02:10:25.909
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.

02:10:26.309 --> 02:10:27.650
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah Underwater didn't kill him

02:10:27.890 --> 02:10:30.752
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, so he's writing a book about it, right?

02:10:30.772 --> 02:10:32.133
[UNKNOWN]: So the physics behind that.

02:10:32.893 --> 02:10:40.798
[UNKNOWN]: They're not sure other than it just there could have been enough water in the cockpit at that point where the pressure wasn't too bad.

02:10:42.359 --> 02:10:46.322
[UNKNOWN]: And again, that in the area you're blowing the explosives are on the canopy.

02:10:46.382 --> 02:10:50.965
[UNKNOWN]: So it blows the canopy open and then you go through the hole.

02:10:50.985 --> 02:10:51.845
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't who knows.

02:10:51.885 --> 02:10:54.347
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, physics or spirituality, whatever.

02:10:54.367 --> 02:10:55.868
[UNKNOWN]: That's wild.

02:10:56.068 --> 02:11:21.542
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so did you see that crash or like a month ago with the two people that ejected out of the I think it was two F-18s hit each other Like their show and they both one of them was inverted and and the people ejected, but it It was like then they were high enough and they were not high But they were high enough that when they ejected the parachute came out and they lived Yeah, it was two two cedars So there's four people ejected they all lives all I mean

02:11:22.402 --> 02:11:24.463
[UNKNOWN]: It was such a compact area.

02:11:24.483 --> 02:11:26.083
[UNKNOWN]: The two aircraft hit each other.

02:11:26.123 --> 02:11:33.886
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, in one of them inverted one of them already wasn'tverted, I think, but the everyone ejected and they were on the ground in like three seconds.

02:11:33.926 --> 02:11:35.686
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was nuts to watch.

02:11:35.766 --> 02:11:39.067
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, the technology is amazing and when it works, it works well.

02:11:39.907 --> 02:11:41.168
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah.

02:11:41.988 --> 02:12:08.746
[UNKNOWN]: No ejection seats in the SES no 172 you have to get the fly that the series has has a pressure on it so you're good it also has one of those emergency buttons so the polygots in capacity the passenger hits that button and it just finds it flies it flies itself to the nearest landing they're cool jets everything but flying is cool to me yeah check echo anymore questions no those it recently I was nerdy out on planes and pilots license and stuff you know I like hard to hear that you have a flight simulator

02:12:09.235 --> 02:12:13.379
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, although I asked my instructor, what's the real value of that?

02:12:13.399 --> 02:12:32.335
[UNKNOWN]: He said, it becomes the most valuable when you're doing your instrument flight writing because everything about what I'm learning, really having been a fan, but not doing it is it's so much about feeling the airplane and feeling the aircraft, because it's just like driving a stick shift car you get in there and your your front-site focused on the instruments and you're like here on the yoke and all this up and then as soon as you start looking out,

02:12:33.116 --> 02:12:34.457
[UNKNOWN]: everything starts to be a little smoother.

02:12:34.517 --> 02:12:42.122
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, flight simulators, what I'm told are pretty good for learning the instruments for sure I would think for sure that would be good because that's way all you can see.

02:12:42.362 --> 02:12:44.584
[UNKNOWN]: So you can see and actual some.

02:12:44.644 --> 02:12:50.448
[UNKNOWN]: And with a modern aircraft, these glass cockpit, these garment systems have so much like an iPhone, they're so much they can do.

02:12:51.008 --> 02:12:56.411
[UNKNOWN]: that if you don't, you can get tassaturated just managing that, so yeah, I'll do that one together.

02:12:56.731 --> 02:12:59.572
[UNKNOWN]: I like, see me later is that on the computer?

02:12:59.772 --> 02:13:02.533
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, if I see you, do you have any actually equipment, like a joystick?

02:13:02.553 --> 02:13:10.557
[UNKNOWN]: You can, so that's another thing, you know, again, you can add some, if you want to really spend some bucks, you can get your your throttles, your yolks, your your rudder pedals, and all that stuff.

02:13:10.737 --> 02:13:15.219
[UNKNOWN]: I'm connecting to you, connecting the computer over and, and you fly the plane that way.

02:13:15.239 --> 02:13:17.060
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, if you are there, I hear they're pretty good.

02:13:17.200 --> 02:13:17.901
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, they are.

02:13:17.921 --> 02:13:18.521
[UNKNOWN]: I hear they're pretty good.

02:13:19.321 --> 02:13:28.865
[UNKNOWN]: So even what's the JSF, which is the, the, the, similar to how's all the jets, my little brother has a VR headset, so he gets really into it.

02:13:29.326 --> 02:13:34.528
[UNKNOWN]: My twin brother, we went into and visited my little brother and he did the harrier and he said that the, the,

02:13:35.028 --> 02:13:44.516
[UNKNOWN]: the way the harrier was operating, he was doing things in the simulator that didn't the real jet, he said it was phenomenally accurate, in terms of just even little nuances, so they do a good job.

02:13:44.576 --> 02:13:49.681
[UNKNOWN]: I flew the harrier simulator out at Yuma in Yuma when I was probably 23 or something like that.

02:13:51.182 --> 02:13:51.662
[UNKNOWN]: I crushed it.

02:13:51.882 --> 02:13:52.702
[UNKNOWN]: I like a lot.

02:13:52.782 --> 02:13:53.603
[UNKNOWN]: Very rough.

02:13:53.643 --> 02:14:12.046
[UNKNOWN]: With no, I went in there with no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

02:14:21.928 --> 02:14:39.835
[UNKNOWN]: usually some kind of a psychological situation right in my opinion like, you know, the person that I'm just gonna You know, they're they think they're really good or they're overconfident like I I explored that part of it Yes, you know, the interviews with the people that were like, yeah, we told her, you know, wouldn't be a good idea to fly today and she said no I got this, you know, I've

02:14:40.295 --> 02:14:43.618
[UNKNOWN]: I've been, or, you know, they flew this plane that they'd never flown before.

02:14:43.638 --> 02:14:47.021
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, you might want to not fly in this kind of weather with this, you never flown that thing.

02:14:47.101 --> 02:14:49.963
[UNKNOWN]: No, I did the simulator or whatever the case may be.

02:14:50.003 --> 02:14:50.624
[UNKNOWN]: So it's interesting.

02:14:50.744 --> 02:14:52.806
[UNKNOWN]: I am enjoying, I think, you bring that up.

02:14:52.946 --> 02:15:01.453
[UNKNOWN]: One of the reasons why I'm enjoying it, I know I'm going to enjoy it more is because I feel like it takes the same level of planning and risk assessment that even planning opposite.

02:15:01.473 --> 02:15:03.314
[UNKNOWN]: And I really, that was part I really enjoyed.

02:15:03.334 --> 02:15:06.257
[UNKNOWN]: I liked working through those processes and just understanding.

02:15:07.057 --> 02:15:13.419
[UNKNOWN]: I think flying if you're not doing the same thing with flying you're you're probably going to make a 99.9% of aviation accidents are pilot error.

02:15:13.459 --> 02:15:14.039
[UNKNOWN]: That's where they are.

02:15:14.059 --> 02:15:26.442
[UNKNOWN]: So so it's yeah, it's it takes it takes some risk assessment risk management planning and are you looking ahead or you actually Deep healing your way in a proper in a proper way so

02:15:26.662 --> 02:15:28.503
[UNKNOWN]: So 99.9 percent.

02:15:28.603 --> 02:15:29.244
[UNKNOWN]: It's on you.

02:15:29.464 --> 02:15:30.104
[UNKNOWN]: Something like that.

02:15:30.124 --> 02:15:33.186
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's a lot of extreme ownership happening when you crash your bird.

02:15:33.426 --> 02:15:34.527
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I saw one.

02:15:34.787 --> 02:15:36.748
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was like a sea which one's a big one.

02:15:36.768 --> 02:15:37.068
[UNKNOWN]: C 17.

02:15:37.088 --> 02:15:39.990
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was one of those where it said it was a video and it said, um,

02:15:44.673 --> 02:15:48.537
[UNKNOWN]: arrogant pilot just crashes the C 17 that is a C 17.

02:15:48.597 --> 02:15:50.058
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've seen that flight.

02:15:50.078 --> 02:15:53.021
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's in Germany, right where he takes off low installs.

02:15:53.081 --> 02:15:58.465
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, there's there's yeah, there's a couple out there, but Yeah, you just have to be careful.

02:15:58.485 --> 02:15:59.766
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's just but I like it.

02:15:59.786 --> 02:16:00.587
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's the kind of thing.

02:16:00.627 --> 02:16:01.548
[UNKNOWN]: It's not like a car.

02:16:01.588 --> 02:16:05.091
[UNKNOWN]: I mean cars do have to do, but I mean somebody y'all who's drive cars.

02:16:05.111 --> 02:16:05.532
[UNKNOWN]: They just don't

02:16:06.092 --> 02:16:08.774
[UNKNOWN]: But the planes nowadays, they want to fly.

02:16:08.794 --> 02:16:12.797
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, these things are designed in a way that you've got to work to crash them.

02:16:12.837 --> 02:16:19.902
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, it's very rare that you have, you know, huge malfunctions in the equipment itself, at least, or multiple malfunctions, wouldn't it?

02:16:20.109 --> 02:16:32.318
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you'd figure I could just see this happening like pretty much every single time, at least part of your brain is like, yeah, this is like cool, like I kind of got the hang of it, but let me kind of push it a little bit, you know, like let me try freaking it.

02:16:32.438 --> 02:16:33.239
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know.

02:16:33.439 --> 02:16:37.122
[UNKNOWN]: I think so, except I think just given my background, I understand what that means.

02:16:37.202 --> 02:16:46.809
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

02:16:47.970 --> 02:16:49.451
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, how about straighten level?

02:16:49.471 --> 02:16:50.132
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, straighten level.

02:16:50.692 --> 02:16:52.333
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see how he's moving.

02:16:52.854 --> 02:16:53.934
[UNKNOWN]: Right on echo any other questions?

02:16:54.214 --> 02:16:54.455
[UNKNOWN]: No.

02:16:54.675 --> 02:16:55.155
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see.

02:16:55.335 --> 02:16:56.076
[UNKNOWN]: Good to see you.

02:16:56.096 --> 02:16:56.536
[UNKNOWN]: Good to see you.

02:16:56.556 --> 02:16:56.916
[UNKNOWN]: Good to see you.

02:16:56.936 --> 02:16:57.897
[UNKNOWN]: Good to see you.

02:16:57.937 --> 02:16:58.417
[UNKNOWN]: Good to see you.

02:16:58.437 --> 02:16:58.978
[UNKNOWN]: Good to see you.

02:16:58.998 --> 02:16:59.458
[UNKNOWN]: Good to see you.

02:16:59.498 --> 02:16:59.978
[UNKNOWN]: Good to see you.

02:17:00.119 --> 02:17:01.339
[UNKNOWN]: Good to see you.

02:17:01.359 --> 02:17:02.200
[UNKNOWN]: Good to see you.

02:17:06.703 --> 02:17:06.863
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

02:17:06.984 --> 02:17:07.865
[UNKNOWN]: We're trying, man.

02:17:07.885 --> 02:17:08.866
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks for coming out.

02:17:08.906 --> 02:17:11.729
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks for joining us and thanks for sharing your lessons on leadership.

02:17:12.430 --> 02:17:12.991
[UNKNOWN]: Appreciate it.

02:17:13.111 --> 02:17:17.676
[UNKNOWN]: And of course, thanks for your service to the teams and to the nation as well.

02:17:17.856 --> 02:17:18.337
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks, brother.

02:17:18.397 --> 02:17:18.637
[UNKNOWN]: All right.

02:17:18.657 --> 02:17:19.378
[UNKNOWN]: Good seeing you too.

02:17:21.169 --> 02:17:28.859
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02:21:18.907 --> 02:21:25.916
[UNKNOWN]: If you want to connect with us for Richard of any on the interwebs, go to theatributes.com and he's on social media.

02:21:27.317 --> 02:21:33.919
[UNKNOWN]: Instagram, rich underscore divini, and then on Twitter, Facebook, and LinkedIn, he's at rich divini.

02:21:34.339 --> 02:21:39.100
[UNKNOWN]: And for us, you check out jockel.com, and then on social media, I'm at jockel when I get a call that I call Charles.

02:21:40.160 --> 02:21:48.742
[UNKNOWN]: Just be careful, because the dopamine will grab your brain and twisted into little tiny things that you have no control over anymore.

02:21:49.222 --> 02:21:49.962
[UNKNOWN]: So just be careful.

02:21:50.662 --> 02:21:51.702
[UNKNOWN]: The dopamine machine.

02:21:53.123 --> 02:21:53.783
[UNKNOWN]: Don't let it get you.

02:21:54.643 --> 02:22:07.648
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks to our military personnel, around the world, currently deployed, protecting freedom, and thanks to all the veterans that have served in the past for protecting us as Americans throughout history.

02:22:07.949 --> 02:22:15.112
[UNKNOWN]: Also, thanks to our police law enforcement firefighters, paramedics, EMTs, dispatchers, correction officers, board patrol secret service, as well as all other first responders.

02:22:15.572 --> 02:22:18.493
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for protecting us here at home, and everyone else out there.

02:22:20.937 --> 02:22:24.200
[UNKNOWN]: It's an uncertain world that we live in, things change all the time.

02:22:24.901 --> 02:22:34.250
[UNKNOWN]: So, set some good horizons, understand your attributes, know your identity, and live it.

02:22:35.892 --> 02:22:36.873
[UNKNOWN]: And that's all we've got for tonight.

02:22:36.953 --> 02:22:39.075
[UNKNOWN]: And until next time, this is Echo and Jockel.